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To: fastattacksailor; broadsword; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; yer gonna put yer eye out; ...
TROP's Rules of Order, the truth and the fiction PING!
2 posted on
02/02/2005 7:52:30 AM PST by
Former Dodger
(I thought ABORTION was murder and FUR was a Woman's right to choose.)
To: Lando Lincoln
"Coulter" wars? Who's fighting Ann Coulter?
3 posted on
02/02/2005 7:55:39 AM PST by
mike182d
To: Lando Lincoln
Four Muslim men of impeccable character have to have witnessed the penetration (thats what makes them impeccable they can watch a girl get raped and do nothing).
That one had to sting a bit.
4 posted on
02/02/2005 7:56:30 AM PST by
Logophile
To: Lando Lincoln
Steve Kellmeyer is now on the list. If they find him, sans head, will it be a "hate crime" by the terrorists?
5 posted on
02/02/2005 8:00:44 AM PST by
Woodworker
("In dealing with a Muslim, must you convert him or kill him?")
To: Lando Lincoln
I would take issue with Muslims not being scientific. In fact, if I am correct, they lead/paved the way for scientific developments for Europe and the 'Enlightenment' with their mathematics research.
I believe the problems arose later as the muslim societies tried to revert to stay static. So I view ones religion as largely irrelevent to the scientific process. I think it is more of a cultural bias that developed as the non-muslim world went forward with science.
Keep in mind that the Roman Church was not a big fan of science early on, either. Remember Galileo?
6 posted on
02/02/2005 8:00:47 AM PST by
Stashiu
( Yeah, I am a Vietnam Vet, not a War Criminal.)
To: Lando Lincoln
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
8 posted on
02/02/2005 8:02:01 AM PST by
randog
(What the....?!)
To: Lando Lincoln
As far as the slavery is concerned in Khalid's thirteenth objective. I have visted Saudi Arabia and in my opinion they are still practicing slavery. What would you call hiring an indigent Filipino or Pakistani on a five year contract to come to the Kingdom to do the horrible work like road building in 125 degree heat and taking their passports away from them right after they arrive, so that they can't leave?
To: Lando Lincoln
The more these Imams speak of their religion the more I realize how impossible it is to defend it. I think moderate Muslims are a myth.
10 posted on
02/02/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by
westmichman
(Pray for global warming. Friend of Ronnie -(stolen from The Patriot))
To: Lando Lincoln
11 posted on
02/02/2005 8:06:04 AM PST by
Jay777
(Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
To: Lando Lincoln
When shown the links, he responded, You are wrong about temporary marriages, this exists in Shia Islam, not in Sunni Islam. In Sunni Islam, marriage is a permanent bond between a man and a woman
So temporary marriages prostitution exists and he admits it. He just doesnt happen to be a Shiite so he doesnt like it. It's all part of the culture of the Arabian Peninsula.
See the Apostle Peter's inquiry about a 'guest wife' for himself while in Rome.
Yes, I know we don't do that anymore, but then we, Christian and most Jews, have been thousands of miles from Arabia for thousands of years.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to have a Crusade, but this isn't one of them.
SO9
12 posted on
02/02/2005 8:06:46 AM PST by
Servant of the 9
(Kill them all. Let God sort them out.)
To: Lando Lincoln
This is typical propaganda directed at Islam. Growing up in a fundamentalist church, I saw this type of slant used against every other Christian denomination as well.
Didnt you know that Catholic monks and preists rape nuns? Yeah, that is why they have cloistered convents so the public never knows.
Didnt you know that predestination allows Presbyterians to treat people like cattle and exploit them at every opportunity? Yes, this is allowed because if one can do this to them, it means that God ahs predestined them to such treatment.
Didnt you know that Baptists drink, whore and do all kinds of wicked things? YEah, they do it because they all know that God will forgive them anyway since they have said that they accept Christ as Lord.
None of the above are true, of course, but this is what the propagandist can do by selectively reading a religions texts and ignoring how the vast majority actually practice their faith.
Or lets look at what a Muslim might say about Christianity if they took every Christian kook out there as representative of Christianity.
Didnt you know that Christians practice polygamy? Sure look at the Mormons in Utah in the mid 1800s.
Didnt you know that Christians burn witches at the stake, conduct inquisitions, go on Crusades to spread the faith, marry off little girls, their preists are pedophiles, etc, etc, etc?
The author in this thread has no shame in distorting Islam and venting his hatred of it as he does.
This is not going to win hearts and minds anywhere in the Muslim world; he is doing neither himself nor his religion nor his country any favor by spewing this garbage.
He reminds me of the fundamentalist I once heard that claimed that Tolkien was a Satanist, because the elves in his stories were actually demons and presented in a positive form. When asked to explain how he figures Tolkiens elves were devils, he said that we all know that there are two kinds of beings, humans and devils and since Tolkien admits his elves are not humans that can mean that they must be devils.
This kind of 'logic' is pathetic and laughable, and Kellmeyer seems to have it down pat.
It is amazing that anyone still falls for this kind of idiocy.
13 posted on
02/02/2005 8:10:33 AM PST by
JFK_Lib
To: Lando Lincoln
Good post and great information.
14 posted on
02/02/2005 8:11:08 AM PST by
libs_kma
(USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
To: Lando Lincoln
18 posted on
02/02/2005 8:20:16 AM PST by
roaddog727
(The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
To: Lando Lincoln
Nice case made in many instances. More evidence in each response would have further driven the point home. Citing one example just gives credence to the argument when speaking to like minded people. Giving multiple links and examples would make the fence rider and the liberal think quite a bit harder and maybe decide Islam is not the innocent here.
20 posted on
02/02/2005 8:21:36 AM PST by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: Lando Lincoln
you know perfectly well that there are at least a dozen different versions of Islam Christianity, all of which say they follow the eternal word of God.. the Quran Bible. The fact is, none of you can agree on what it means. There is no caliph Vicar of Christ, my friend, and one interpretation is just as good as another.
Funny. Sounds a lot like Protestant Christianity :-)
puts on flame retardant suit
24 posted on
02/02/2005 8:24:26 AM PST by
mike182d
To: Lando Lincoln
25 posted on
02/02/2005 8:26:39 AM PST by
Valin
(Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
To: Lando Lincoln
"Khalids Third Objection: Marriage by the age of six is alright: This is not true...No body in our part of the world is allowed to marry below the age of 17 for women and 18 for men. I challenge you to cite a single marriage of (six years or even ten) sanctioned by a Sharia court...all over the Muslim world. You wouldnt find such a thing."
LOL You're kidding right? The founder of Islam (Muhammad) married a 6-year-old (Read about this child molester >>
HERE<<) and consummated that marriage when the little girl was 9.
I don't mean to sound cold but Khalid needs to do a little research about his religion instead of believing his own propaganda.
JMHO
29 posted on
02/02/2005 8:47:47 AM PST by
divulger
To: Lando Lincoln
Damn, it's like arguing with Alan Coombs.LOL
To: Lando Lincoln; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; ...
I ask God Almighty to strike you with a malignant cancer within 3-6 months. So a simple beheading will not do anymore?
35 posted on
02/02/2005 9:11:37 AM PST by
A. Pole
(Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: Lando Lincoln
37 posted on
02/02/2005 9:14:00 AM PST by
pop-aye
(For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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