Posted on 02/01/2005 8:38:46 AM PST by MikeEdwards
At a meeting of the Liberal caucus last week in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Foreign Affairs Minister Pierre Pettigrew was asked what he thought about the plans of some Quebec churches to speak out against the government’s same sex marriage legislation. Pettigrew indicated that he didn’t think that the government and the churches should get involved in each other’s affairs.
The Minister was quoted in the National Post, one of the few media outlets to report the exchange, as saying, "I find that the separation of the Church and State is one of the most beautiful inventions of modern times."
Its beauty is perhaps only topped by the vividness of Pettigrew’s imagination.
Well at least the Minister got the part about the "modern times" right. The Canadian concept of separation of church and state goes all the way back to the Chrétien era (1993-2003). Chrétien used it so that he could brag about how he kept the clergy and any mention of God out of ceremonies that commemorated the victims of 9/11. Then again, Chrétien also kept the 25 Canadians who perished in the World Trade Centre and aboard aircraft that fateful day, and their families out of events that were held around September 11. Unlike the present Martin government, Chrétien did not attempt to go directly after the churches. . . . .
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Cuck Fanida!
so much for being "liberal".
So, let me struggle to understand Liberal Hyprocrisy, given their false god of "SOCS" (Separation of Church & State)
It's EEEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLL for non-Muslim churches to get involved with governmental affairs.
But it's hunky-dory for governments to cloake themselves with Hate-Crime Legislation and boss non-Muslim churches into what they can and cannot preach.
...my head hurts...
Sounds to me like government has already gotten involved in the churches' affairs.
---"Pettigrew indicated that he didn’t think that the government and the churches should get involved in each other’s affairs.
The Minister was quoted in the National Post, one of the few media outlets to report the exchange, as saying, "I find that the separation of the Church and State is one of the most beautiful inventions of modern times."---
Um......Telling the church what it is and isn't allowed to preach about is not "separation of church and state." It's the state takeover of the church.
When the state runs the churches (or vice-versa), we call it a "Theocracy." It's just a matter of which theology rules the land when such a takeover occurs.
That is why many of us in America call it what it rightfully is: The Elimination of Church by State, not the Separation of Church and State. The separatists seek no such peaceful coexistence and non-involvement.
If the provincial government of Quebec were to announce that stoning homosexuals and burning down gay bars were part of a "separate and distinct French culture," their right to do these things would be written into the Canadian constitution within 24 hours.
Churches have a directive to speak out against "sin". We cannot and will not "censor" or which sins we speak out against.
Do recall some loudmouthed Atheist who once claimed
God is dead. several years after the infidel died some
vandal wrote on a wall "God is dead"and signed the infidels
name--someone else came along and crossed out the first tag.And wrote "Nietzsche is dead.' -God "
One thing I've noticed is that this so-called "separation" is very selectively invoked. When some priest, minister or religious group calls for tax increases in the name of "caring for the downtrodden", or when some "peace" stuff is organized by "religious" lefties, there's never any objection. Or, most especially, when some misguided religious leader tells folks how we need to be loving and "tolerant" of the queers. No, no, those things are all fine and dandy.
umm - what am I missing?
Is he saying that churches have no right to uphold the Bible?
Puts me in mind of what the Separatists went thru' in England 400 years ago,...ultimately resulting in the hardy band of Pilgrims who boarded the Mayflower - and wrote the first free-government/freedom of religion Contract in this country
Ping
He's saying democracy doesn't include religious folk. They are now slaves.
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