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GOP Sees Future In Black Churches (The Crumbling Of The Liberal Plantation Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/01/05 | Tom Hamburger And Peter Wallsten

Posted on 02/01/2005 12:47:57 AM PST by goldstategop

But by courting conservative blacks in battleground states — reaching out through programs such as the president's faith-based initiative — GOP organizers believe they made the difference that secured Bush's victory in 2004. In Ohio, for instance, a concerted effort increased black support for Bush from 9% in 2000 to 16% in 2004, providing a cushion that allowed the president to win the pivotal state outright on election night. The Black Contract With America will be unveiled by Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr., a registered Democrat from suburban Washington who backed Bush in 2004 after voting against him four years earlier. He was drawn, he said, to the GOP's social conservatism that he thought reflected the true values of black churches.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: battleground; blackchurch; blackchurches; blacks; blackvote; bushvictory; faithbased; gop; liberalplantation; outreach
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To: mariabush
Being from the Memphis area, I am thrilled that Harold Ford Jr. lost to Pelosi.. Jr. is a whole lot slicker.


This isn't about Harold Ford, Jr. We already know that you don't like him.

What this is about is the fact that no matter how loyal American blacks are to the Democrats, blacks still won't even get nominated, much less approved, for senior Democrat Party positions.

It's another point that must be highlighted.


21 posted on 02/01/2005 4:08:27 AM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Does this mean the NAACP won't be prosecuted for refusing to turn over documents to the IRS?


What does this have to do with the NAACP?


22 posted on 02/01/2005 4:10:51 AM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

23 posted on 02/01/2005 4:45:10 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: goldstategop

The Black Contract With America will be unveiled by Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr., a registered Democrat from suburban Washington who backed Bush in 2004 after voting against him four years earlier.
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Yes! That's what we need, a headline grabber. Private SS accounts, School Choice, Conservative Social Values, Elimination of means tested Social Spending - that is a Contract worth fighting for.


24 posted on 02/01/2005 5:13:05 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/blackconservatism.htm)
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To: rdb3

Kind of touchy this morning, aren't you?


25 posted on 02/01/2005 5:18:26 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mariabush
Kind of touchy this morning, aren't you?


No, I'm not actually. It's a fine morning. I'm just telling it like it is.


26 posted on 02/01/2005 5:35:53 AM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: goldstategop

Blacks will never leave the liberal plantation. On this plantation they get the slop fed to them by their liberal slaveowners who feed them daily with race baiting propaganda, and freebies like affirmative action and welfare. I would love to be wrong and watch blacks become free thinkers but if blacks by in large cant support the ideals of their faith (abortion and homosexuality is wrong) why does anyone think they will change their party affiliation. Republicans should not pander to blacks any longer (or any other group) - stand for truth and freedom and allow others to join.


27 posted on 02/01/2005 5:54:11 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: rdb3

Here in the Land of Lincoln, Dr. Alan Keyes' main project is in the black Chicago churches.

Great progress is being made.

His FR detractors can kiss my patootie.

Republican efforts in this area have to be REAL. It is imperitive that we aren't offering nothing but an alternate plantation instead of true freedom.

That's all I have to say right now. Off to a meeting...


28 posted on 02/01/2005 5:54:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

"You absolutely correct. If GW Bush and the Pubbies can win another 9% of the Black vote, the Democrat Party will be destroyed in 2006. I actually believe we can rach about 25% of the Black vote by 2008. Lots happening in the Black community that favors the GOP!!!"

Your crazy - I hope Im wrong and your right but come on blacks pretend to be Christian and vote for candidates who are pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, etc... Blacks are not going to leave a party which continues to pander to them and supports their racists views against America (especially white America). Liberals have a strangle hold on blacks for many reasons - race baiting, welfare entrapment, hate affiliation - blacks are comfortable in this easy chair and quite frankly I dont ever see the possibility of more than 15% ever leaving the liberal slave plantation. But I would LOVE to be wrong.


29 posted on 02/01/2005 6:00:44 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Southack
Impressive list. I'd point out one small addition that you might consider for future reproductions on FR:

"Republicans introduced and passed in the House and Senate the 1965 Civil Rights Act; Democrats filibustered against it."

"...Democrats, led by Robert Byrd (D-WVa), filibustered against it."

30 posted on 02/01/2005 6:15:10 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: mhking
"The Black Contract With America will be unveiled by Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr.,"

When??? Did I miss the date in the article?

31 posted on 02/01/2005 6:17:38 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: rdb3
"What this is about is the fact that no matter how loyal American blacks are to the Democrats, blacks still won't even get nominated, much less approved, for senior Democrat Party positions."

Yep. And when they complain, somebody get$ a token advi$er $pot a la Je$$e Jack$son with the Kerry campaign. $ellout$, the "leaders" are. Thankfully, times are a changing as per this article...

32 posted on 02/01/2005 6:58:24 AM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: mhking

This is promising, hopeful, enlightening!


33 posted on 02/01/2005 7:08:48 AM PST by peacebaby ("...please refrain from impugning my integrity." Dr. Condoleezza Rice, 1/18/05)
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To: sasafras

Get ready to be wrong. I would agree with you if Blacks had remained static, and many of them have, especially the uneducated, lower class, broken family groups. But....the sea is changing, and many of the building middle class and young educated Blacks see their way to prosperity and the American dream is through assimilation into the general, free enterprise American society.

You should also take note that Hispanics have passed Blacks and are now the largest minority group in the USA. Hispanics are smart enough to realize that you don't ever, ever, put all your political eggs in one basket, as do Asians. Couple these two minority groups together, and the Black vote becomes less meaningful all the time. I could go on and on with the changing tide, but I will conclude by saying, honestly, the Congressional Black Caucus and the NAACP have no political power whatsoever in current Washington, DC, and won't have it for a very long time.

Average Blacks see this, and are beginning to get the picture that they have been had by the leaders, and certainly by the Democrat "Slave" Party. Change is coming!!! How quickly remains to be seen. If Black folk don't change their political loyalty, they will forever remain chained to and in their Black communities, and worse, chained to the bottom of the economic and opportunity totem pole where the Democrat Party has kept them for over fifty years. Please keep in mind that GW Bush picked up enough increased Black votes in Florida and Ohio, enough to give him victories in those crucial states!!


34 posted on 02/01/2005 7:45:06 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Southack

The truth will set you free!


35 posted on 02/01/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by blackie
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To: traviskicks
"That's what we need, a headline grabber. Private SS accounts, School Choice, Conservative Social Values, Elimination of means tested Social Spending - that is a Contract worth fighting for."

I agree with the items in the proposed contract, but they are good fer all Americans, not just Black Americans, imho. I'm sorta torn on this issue...yes, we want to attract more Black Americans to conservatism, but do we do it by treating them as a unique sub-population?!

FReegards...MUD

36 posted on 02/01/2005 8:16:18 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Create a new League of Nations, a LeagueOfFReeNations!!)
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To: Southack

Nice list. But don't forget what the dems are trying to do to Ken Blackwell here in Ohio.


37 posted on 02/01/2005 8:20:31 AM PST by far sider
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To: goldstategop

Aren't the 11% or 16% figures on black support from those same discredited exit polls that told us Kerry was winning? I don't doubt Bush's support has risen a good deal among blacks, I just think the source of the numbers is probably no good.


38 posted on 02/01/2005 8:23:25 AM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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To: rdb3
This isn't about Harold Ford, Jr.

What do you think of Ford?

39 posted on 02/01/2005 8:27:21 AM PST by far sider
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To: sasafras

SO, because we will never win the MAJORITY of Blacks, does that mean that we, as conservatives should just "give up, and concede the black voting block, to the DUmmies"? I for one do NOT think we should.

BTW-- 25% of the black vote, would be a NUCLEAR ATTACK on the dems, as far as their ability to win, or even steal elections goes. AND, it is a goal, that I think, can be reached, with a little effort.

Back in July, we here in Ohio had been told, that "you guys can never get a marriage protection ammendment, on the books, in your state". Did we all just give up, and cry"woe is me"? NO!! I for one, passed around one of those petetions, and LOOK WHAT THAT RESULTED IN, it brought more voters to the conservative side here in Ohio-- Maybe even, it gave us that little cushion, we ended up with.


40 posted on 02/01/2005 8:42:12 AM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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