Republicans allege 737 illegal votes in governor's election (GOP gets what it deserves)

Seattle Post -Intelligencer ^ | REBECCA COOK

[bilhosty]

"By the way, you are claiming that the existence of 737 illegal votes out of the total 2,456,610 cast in the State (.03 of 1% of the votes cast) is sufficient reason to call on the Federal government to take over the responsibility of conducting elections, charged to the States by the Constitution?"

737 votes were enough to swing the election.If this were intentional and an attempt to steal the election than it is a travesty. There was a lot more here than just these 737 votes. There was a whole lot of things that went on including changing the rules to allow all the Democrat votes to be counted and then not changing the rules to allow Republican votes to be counted. Also there is some evidence that the King County Voter dept was deliberately running things to help the Democrats instead of running fair elections. These 737 votes are significant but they re actually the smallest reason why this should be throughly investigated and legitimate remedy should be made however it can be made.

If it is wrong to have the Federal Government pass meaningful legislation to safeguard the system and enforce the Federal laws we have (remember Federal offices were on the ballot too) because it is a big government thing. Then maybe you think we should have told New York that it should defend Itself and take action on it's own on 9-11(call up you own national guard and invade Afghanistan yourself.) Would you do away with the FBI because it is big government? Defending our country, Its system and something that goes to the heart of our constitutional process is always the process the fair province of the Federal Government.

I also never said that the Federal Government should take over the elections. They should simply make sure they are fair and legitimate. AS far as the states being charged to run elections by the Constitution please read thread 34 and you will see some of the things the Constitution has to say about elections and the Federal obligations and jurisdiction.

[Lancey Howard]

Anybody know anything about Judge Bridges? Is he corrupt?
Is he a Clinton appointment?

[WhiteGuy]

"...if they haven't passed legislation to protect elections from vote fraud..."

The question begs to be asked....... Why?

Why would elected politicians not do what is necessary to insure a 100% accurate vote?

It is true that enormous amounts of our tax dollars were spread around to States Counties and municipalities to "upgrade" the voting equipment and process.

Yet the opportunity for fraud still exists.

[poindexter]

"don't flame be but isn't most of this a state issue and not a fed issue...."

Federal offices were on the ballot.

[vox_freedom]

This is a County Superior court position. So he is elected by the citizens of Chelan County which is, by the way, a fairly conservative county.

[Political Junkie Too]

Anybody know anything about Judge Bridges? Is he corrupt? Is he a Clinton appointment?

Is the diamond stud on his left earlobe indicative of anything?

-PJ

[moehoward]

"King County elections officials plan to forward to prosecutors the names of three people suspected of casting absentee ballots in their dead relatives' names, raising the potential for voter-fraud charges in the super-heated election for governor."

Looks like they're on top of it. /sarcasm

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002145419_recountside08m.html

[moehoward]

Looks like he'd know where to score around Pioneer Square.

[Lancey Howard]

All I know is, "The left ear's the right ear, the right ear's the wrong ear."

[Luis Gonzalez]

It calls for a State level investigation, not for Federal interference.

Ther legislation is already in the books, election fraud is a crime, now quit whining about wanting more laws, and enforce the ones on the book...you sound like a leftist whining about guns, we don't need more laws.

[F16Fighter]

"Instincts (and really little more) tell me that a good 2-5% of the Democrat votes cast are fraudulent. Year in and year out."

NO doubt.

With that 2%-5%, and WITHOUT the lies and distortions of the MSM supporting the Democrats, how much more dominant does the GOP become?

[swilhelm73]

Why am I reaching the ineluctable conclusion that about 99.5 percent of these illegal votes were for Gregoire?

Well, in 2000, when the Palm Beach Post found 4,000 felons had illegally voted, they also found that 2/3s of them had voted for Gore - though I don't recall how they came up with that number or how the last 1/3 was divided up between Bush, Nader, someone else, or no one for president.

[k2blader]

I hear you. Which is why it's sometimes weird to hear them whine.

[swilhelm73]

If you have his full name, who appointed him and prior cases should be fairly easy to find via google...

[Luis Gonzalez]

Yes...but this guy wants the Feds to write more laws.

More laws are not the answer to anything, acting on and enforcing the ones already set in place is the answer.

Here's a picture from Palm Beach County taken the last time the Dems tried to steal an election from under us...

We weren't asking for the Feds to write laws.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Luis, as you may know, I live in Washington. We aren't asking for more laws (I can't speak for the person you're arguing with, of course).

What is frustrating is that Democrats hold nearly all positions of any power in this situation, and thouh election laws have been broken, they couldn't care less. We are doing what we can - but if the normal channels (the courts) don't yield justice, I would welcome federal intervention - and the word is that FBI has been keeping an eye on this. Someone has to stop this election theft (not next time - NOW), and if it's out of our hands to do it, what do you suggest?

[bilhosty]

"It calls for a State level investigation, not for Federal interference."

We need to do what it takes. Unfortunately the people who control the state and the courts are the people who are writing their own ballots. Their is simply no way that they are going to do what needs to be done. The Federal government needs to fulfill it's constitutional duties of safeguarding our elections. Federal law has set up motor voting and only federal law can end it. Same day registration and not using proper id needs to be eliminated now. And only the federal legislation can do it now. I understand the reluctance to go to the Federal Government, but there is simply no way that Democrat controlled justidictins are going to do it. The need to save our democratic institutions and keep the 'rats from destroying same, plainly takes precedence over ideological purity.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"...Democrats hold nearly all positions of any power in this situation..."

How did that happen?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Federal law has set up motor voting and only federal law can end it."

B.S....the State of Washington passed a motor voter law in 1990...we don't have one here.

" Same day registration and not using proper id needs to be eliminated now. And only the federal legislation can do it now."

The State of Washington passed a same-day registration law, the Feds didn't.

And neither one of those laws are unconstitutional at face value...you just don't like them.

Show me pictures of the residents of Washington State protesting the theft of this election in the streets of the cities and towns of the State, and then we can talk.

The plain fact is that you live in a liberal State, and trying to get the Feds to help you make it otherwise is just plain lazy.

Fix your State, and if you can't, either accept the will of the people (after all, they are the ones who elect the politicians and don't protest the outcome of the elections) or move elsewhere.

[bilhosty]

Luis I live in from Georgia is that a liberal state? But, . I don't know if the people of Washington are jumping up and down protesting it but they obviously think they have an illegitimate governor. see below

http://www.strategicvision.biz/political/washington_gov_28.htm

McCullough Vs Maryland and the article of the Constitution above showed the right of the federal government too repeal it. Nor does not have to be unconstitutional to repeal it.

You are right I do not like thee laws. They are bad laws and they do not have to be unconstitutional to be repealed. The Dem's control too many legislative bodies to put and end to same day registration and motor voter laws everywhere. Therefore it has to be done by the Congress. And it should be done because it is the right thing to do.
Obviously the lawyer-Democrat party (which I think you are a part of) has no values or decency or commitment to democratic values (no matter what it says). It is just too important to save our system and prevent this kind of thing. This should be fixed immediately. And it should be fixed by what ever means it takes to fix it.