Republicans allege 737 illegal votes in governor's election (GOP gets what it deserves)

Seattle Post -Intelligencer ^ | REBECCA COOK

[BellStar]

I here your frustration but election reform to ensure ballot security is a slow state by state process and one principal we should never pitch out the window no matter how frustrating a close stolen loss might be is STATES RIGHTS!

[Nataku X]

Somehow they managed to pass a national Motor Voter law. Surely they can strike it down.

[bilhosty]

"don't flame be but isn't most of this a state issue and not a fed issue....many states don't seem to have the same problems or at least not to the same degree. I admit that if the race were closer than fraud would most likely be more prevalent but I think the state should first and foremost be fixing this rampant Democratic cheating"

Good point most of us prefer to take action locally and at state. However, the defense of our constitution and out democratic principles (small d)is plainly a more than legitimate concern for the federal government. The federal government led the fight for freedom in ww11 and in the cold war. There is no reason why it should not do the same in our current fight for freedom against the Fascist Democratic party. The Constitution plainly gives the federal government the duty to guarantee a Republican form of government in each state. Thank you for your response Norcalrepub.

[onevoter]

You say, "Not gonna' flame you, but when "states" try to fix things, the ACLU will jump in and scream violation of federal civil rights...as if it's a "civil right" to vote without proof of identity, vote illegally, etc."

ACLU - another issue entirely. Why do our tax dollars support this blood-sucking group of lawyers? If this group wants to bring suits to court, these lawyers should have to either suck up the costs themselves or find a group that willingly donates to their cause. Why do tax payers have to support a group that is clearly against everything the average taxpayer stands for and believes in?

[bilhosty]

"Dude. They are already illegal votes. That's the whole point of the article. More legislation is just double-dog illegal. The challenge, maybe insurmountable, is to get dem infested precincts to obey the existing laws."

Good point! However a law needs to be passed safeguarding all Federal elections by mandating proper ID. By eliminating same day registration enforcing laws that were drawn before the election. So the aren't changed by Dem Judges. There are plenty of safeguards that can be should be implemented.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

If they haven't passed legislation to protect elections from Dem vote fraud, then they deserve everything they get.

Looks like the people will have to do it themselves. Let's hope Prop 200 in Arizona spreads to every state in the country.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Confirmed Illegal Votes Discovered




Felons – King County
424

Felons – Other Counties
65

Deceased
44

Duplicates In-State
20

Duplicates Out-of-State
6

Illegal Provisional Ballots
437

Total
996

[Luis Gonzalez]

So, the people of the State of Washington, and their elected public servants, have a problem IN THEIR STATE whereas they can't discharge their constitutionally assigned duty to conduct proper elections, and you blame the GOP and claim that they are getting what THEY deserve?

The people of Washington are getting what THEY deserve...a Democrat in office, so they should get THEIR asses in gear and take care of their State.

You're either another big government liberal who thinks yourself a conservative, or a liberal in disguise undermining the GOP.

[calex59]

If they haven't passed legislation to protect elections from Dem vote fraud, then they deserve everything they get.

Voter laws are up to the states not the feds. The feds couldn't pass voter fraud laws without violating states rights and they solution is for each state to enact voter fraud safegaurds. We already have laws against voter fraud. What? Do you think it is legal to commit voter fraud?

The only time the feds can be involved is for a federal election as they are doing in Wisconsin. Washington state fraud involves(as far as we know) the gubernatorial election, hence it is not a federal matter.

States need to pass laws requiring voter ID, do away with same day registration and get rid of provisional ballots. Having control of the Whitehorse and fed congress won't get this done, it has to be done on a state level. Washington state has been Dem for many years and until a Candidate wins by a big enough margin so the Dems can't steal it, then Washington State won't pass voter fraud safeguards, because the Dems simply won't pass them. They become hysterical everytime someone mentions voter ID because they are afraid of losing their fraud mechanism.

Arizona has passed a law requiring picture ID and this is a big step in the right direction.

You guys need to get real, talking about the "republicans" as if they are some entity other than the membership that makes up the party. We, the members, are the republican party, but election safeguards have to be enacted state by state. Until the majority of the states become republican we will have to deal with this sort of thing the best we can. The republicans in WA State are doing what they can to combat it, but without the state legislature behind them it is very difficult.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Blah blah blah.

[zip]

The FBI is too busy investigating the rosters of Boy Scout Troops. They can't be bothered with trivial stuff like vote fraud.

It's a damn shame but you are absolutely right.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The feds couldn't pass voter fraud laws without violating states rights and they solution is for each state to enact voter fraud safegaurds.

You're right on a lot of counts, especially as it relates to states rights but the federal mandated motor-voter law opened tremendous loopholes for demofrauds to exploit. At the very least the GOP Congress should get busy on closing them.

[bilhosty]

"So, the people of the State of Washington, and their elected public servants, have a problem IN THEIR STATE whereas they can't discharge their constitutionally assigned duty to conduct proper elections, and you blame the GOP and claim that they are getting what THEY deserve?"

Here is what another Constitution (the one for the United States of America) says:

article 4.section1 "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government."

article 1 section 4 " The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."

The Federal Government does in deed have the power,authority and responsibility to protect the public's right to a fair vote. And yes to defend the Constitution of the United States and our way of life.

[bilhosty]

"Voter laws are up to the states not the feds."

See my comments on thread 34. Of course the Federal government has the right to defend the right to vote. It is even Constitutional obligation.

[meadsjn]

This is a problem with STATE law.

The Feds intervened down south when blacks were being prevented from voting (ironically, by southern Democrats).

[Luis Gonzalez]

The Federal government having the power to do something does not relieve the people of the State of Washington from either their Constitutional duties, or their responsibilities as citizens, so in fact, the people of the State of Washington have failed the GOP, and as a result of their failure, they are getting what they deserve.

A Republican form of government does not BY FAR mean that the Federal government will assume the responsibility that the citizens and the government of any given State will not discharge.

The problem in Washington came about as a result of the failure of the people of Washington to conduct proper elections...the solution is not further Federal interference with the States, but rather that the people of the State demand better government from their elected officials.

One last thing...you are being naive in believing that all voter fraud is committed by Democrats.

[Luis Gonzalez]

By the way, you are claiming that the existence of 737 illegal votes out of the total 2,456,610 cast in the State (.03 of 1% of the votes cast) is sufficient reason to call on the Federal government to take over the responsibility of conducting elections, charged to the States by the Constitution?

Get a life...tell the people of the State of Washington to clean up their act, and start pulling their weight.

[CyberAnt]

Hmmmm? I thought voting laws were state/county issues?

If not .. then how come some states require ID and other don't ..??

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Get a life...tell the people of the State of Washington to clean up their act, and start pulling their weight.

Gee whiz, Luis. We're trying. That's what this is all about.