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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: Doctor Stochastic

And if I've goofed it up, I welcome and acknowledge all corrections.


1,541 posted on 02/02/2005 12:25:07 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: bvw
You're ignoring the apriori assumtion. That the coin and the toss are not rigged.

No. That WAS my assumption as STATED.

1,542 posted on 02/02/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Elsie
[Reference to microbial fission and
"was it good for you?" deleted. ]

Didn't Larson do this already??

He may have.

Please note I may have seen it in Far Side and forgotton (not being a regular reader of Newspapers...)

OR
I may have independently come up with it.

Any applicability to the Crevo debate (independent origin vs. transmission, etc.) is strictly at the readers' discretion, no such applicability was intended.

Cheers!

1,543 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: WildTurkey; bvw

What get's me is folks who think that just because a lotto's number has not been seen lately, that it MUST, therefore, be coming up shortly.

As if the past would influence the future somehow.


1,544 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: WildTurkey; betty boop
Thank you for your reply and the two challenges! The first one I did not understand at all. Would you kindly rephrase it? On to the second point:

2) Evolution is impossible since it contradicts the 2nd law of thermodynamics (entropy).

The Theory of Evolution does not contradict any physical laws. Young Earth Creationism, OTOH, requires a contradiction of physical laws - i.e. a "miracle". Intelligent Design objections do not contradict physical laws.

It is however a most important feature of life - which sets it apart from non-life and death that the reduction of uncertainty in the receiver or molecular machine in going from a before state to an after state (Shannon, information) dissipates energy to the local surroundings (2nd law of thermodynamics).

Channel Capacity of Molecular Machines and Energy Dissipation from Molecular Machines

IOW, living systems must pay the thermodynamic tab. It is the manner in which that is accomplished which distinguishes that which is alive from that which is dead or not alive. (Information Theory and Molecular Biology)

1,545 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:33 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Elsie

Rigged "beyond any reasonable doubt" to use the criminal court terminology. Still, as you say possible. Just almost perfectly impossible.


1,546 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:57 PM PST by bvw
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To: WildHorseCrash
Religion, on the other hand, is all about faith, hope and belief . If you are a Christian, you have a book, written by men, that you believe was inspired by God. There is no real proof of this, you just believe it. You believe it because of faith, which is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. You do it out of a hope for something--eternal life--for which there is no objective proof.

This is not exactly right.

there ARE some things that are 'provable'.

1,547 posted on 02/02/2005 12:30:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Even under ideal conditions, you're still much faster than kudzu ;)


1,548 posted on 02/02/2005 12:31:08 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: colorado tanker
On the other hand, I don't think it necessarily follows that the only other explanation is design by a creator, I'm open to that but it strikes me as an unproven hypothesis. The creation of new species could also be the result of a biological process we don't yet understand, it seems to me.

Well put!

It drives me crazy how freeper darwinists claim everybody that questions darwinism is a "creationist"

1,549 posted on 02/02/2005 12:32:22 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: WildTurkey

I'm PANTING my fool head off just trying to stay even!


1,550 posted on 02/02/2005 12:32:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Years ago I looked at the payouts the 3-number lotto sequences in an early NJ lottery. There was considerable variance in the payouts. People played lower numbers in any position more heavily and avoided triples and pairs. Enough to make a profit on it? I forget ...


1,551 posted on 02/02/2005 12:33:18 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
What species is a jackass, by that I mean a mule?

It's not a species. It's a hybrid of two different species. (H. assinus x H. caballas.)

1,552 posted on 02/02/2005 12:34:01 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: AntiGuv
The organic biomass is continually being synthesized at various base levels of the ecological hierarchy.

Where can I learn about this???

1,553 posted on 02/02/2005 12:34:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry

People often make the mistake of using "crossstream" (inferences from a population of sequencess of a given length, sometimes called "weak") computations to model "downstream" (inferences along a given sequence, sometimes called "strong") computations. Coin tossing (and similar models) are not intuitive at all. For example, in a single game of heads and tails, it is most likely that either H or T is "ahead" most of the time. Crossings are rare.


1,554 posted on 02/02/2005 12:36:09 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Alamo-Girl
The first one I did not understand at all. Would you kindly rephrase it?

Thank you. As to the first. There is a website (as soon as I find it I will post it) that has a "detailed" statistical evalution assuming certain parameters as to cell structure and years available, etc. that concludes that the possibility of the number of "random" changes inoder to end with the present "man" is statisticaly too many (very low probability) for the number of years and (wave the hand) evolution is therefore impossible.

1,555 posted on 02/02/2005 12:36:41 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildHorseCrash

And is can it propagate?


1,556 posted on 02/02/2005 12:37:26 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Say............

...are we still talking about coin flips or Evolution as a fact here????


1,557 posted on 02/02/2005 12:37:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
You can learn about it in any grade school, but for the time being start here.
1,558 posted on 02/02/2005 12:38:50 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: WildHorseCrash

Sorry, my fingers slurred. "And can it propagate?"


1,559 posted on 02/02/2005 12:38:51 PM PST by bvw
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To: Last Visible Dog
It drives me crazy how freeper darwinists claim everybody that questions darwinism is a "creationist"

Can't keep all the players straight. Put in in your tag line or sign the post and I will do my best to make the proper reference.

1,560 posted on 02/02/2005 12:39:10 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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