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The 'truth' about tobacco smoke
oakridger.com ^ | January 28, 2005 | Ellen Rogers

Posted on 01/28/2005 1:50:34 PM PST by SheLion

Just how harmful is environmental tobacco smoke?

Not as harmful as the Environmental Protection Agency or those anti-secondhand smoke commercials would have one believe, according to Roger A. Jenkins, Ph.D., consultant to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory's Chemical Sciences division.

Jenkins presented "Human Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke: Is What You See What You Get?" at ORNL this week.

"Some people wish I didn't have the findings I have," Jenkins said. "Others say, 'Gee, if this is true, why does the EPA continue to talk about this?' [The research] steps on people's toes, and that's exactly what I want it to do."

Environmental tobacco smoke is a highly diluted mixture of sidestream (70 to 90 percent) and exhaled mainstream (10 to 30 percent) of tobacco smoke.

"'Secondhand' smoke is probably misleading, since most ETS is derived from smoke which is emitted by the smoldering firecone of a cigarette," Jenkins said.

According to Jenkins, the typical smoker inhales 480 milligrams of smoke a day and 32 milligrams of nicotine per day. In a home where smoking is unrestricted, the typical non-smoker will inhale the equivalent of .45 milligrams of smoke particles and .028 milligrams of nicotine.

There are several science-related hurdles to overcome in educating the public about ETS, Jenkins said. The first is getting the public to understand the difference between personal beliefs and science.

"In a society where there are still serious debates about evolution, this can be a real challenge," he said.

The second is avoiding the "means justifying the end syndrome," which Jenkins says involves the distortion of science in the name of preventing youth from smoking.

The third major hurdle is demanding "public policy types" provide perspective for the facts they declare.

"Sure, there are 43 carcinogens (cancer-causing agents) in ETS, but there are also probably about 40 carcinogens in diesel exhaust and wood smoke," Jenkins said.

Indoor air pollution is also caused by many things other than non-tobacco sources, including cleaning, cooking, consumer products like Raid and wood burning.

"As (physician) Paracelsus said in the early 1500's, 'the poison is in the dose,'" Jenkins said. "We still continue to eat lettuce and take showers despite their carcinogens. Life is risky business."

Jenkins is simply remaining true to his profession by bringing forth this politically incorrect information, he says.

"When you start tinkering with science because you want to achieve some political aim, you are no longer a scientist."

Jenkins retired in September from his position as leader of the Environmental Chemistry and Mass Spectrometry Group in the Chemical Sciences Division at ORNL. He has authored or co-authored more than 45 open literature publications in the area of field analytical chemistry and tobacco smoke characterization and human exposure. He is the lead author of "The Chemistry of Environmental Tobacco Smoke: Composition and Measurement," Second Edition.

Jenkins has also acted as an expert witness in several high-profile litigations involving environmental and mainstream tobacco smoke composition and exposure


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; fda; health; individualliberty; lawmakers; maine; niconazis; professional; prohibitionists; pufflist; regulation; rinos; senate; smoking; taxes; tobacco
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To: TexasCowboy
No, it's not my business. I just don't get it. I don't want to convince you to quit, but I would like to know why you don't.
141 posted on 01/28/2005 7:01:01 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith
Your entire post was drivel

I'll probably never get over this.

Please explain to me how this makes me genocidal

Oh please.

or a socialist

Socialists must engineer society to the paradigm.

That's how you are.

142 posted on 01/28/2005 7:02:18 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: T.Smith
"I just don't get it. I don't want to convince you to quit, but I would like to know why you don't."

Don't you understand?

It makes me no difference that you don't "get it".

It makes me no difference that you would like to know why.

You are unimportant to my life.

Why is my smoking so important to yours?

143 posted on 01/28/2005 7:09:11 PM PST by TexasCowboy (We make geldings of our boys then wonder why they don't become stallions)
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To: Nooseman
I found on another thread that if you egg him on ,he will only through insults at you.

He's bordering on psychotic, I'm bordering on psychotic and Irish and am genetically compelled not to back away from a fight.

I figure I have the upper hand ;-)

Anyway, I'm going to bed now, be back in the morning to resume.

144 posted on 01/28/2005 7:12:31 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: TexasCowboy
Dammit, get over yourself. I don't give a flying you-know-what about you personally. I don't give a crap if you smoke. Think of it as research, I just want to know why you would want to smoke. I'm curious, for cryin' out loud. If you don't want to tell me, then STFU.
145 posted on 01/28/2005 7:29:21 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: WildTurkey; exnavychick
Question. Do you believe that there is NO link between smoking and lung cancer?

Smoking Does Not

Cause Lung Cancer

(According to WHO/CDC Data)*

By:  James P. Siepmann, MD

Yes, it is true, smoking does not cause lung cancer.  It is only one of many risk factors for lung cancer. I initially was going to write an article on how the professional literature and publications misuse the language by saying "smoking causes lung cancer"1,2, but the more that I looked into how biased the literature, professional organizations, and the media are, I modified this article to one on trying to put the relationship between smoking and cancer into perspective. (No, I did not get paid off by the tobacco companies, or anything else like that.)

Article here

146 posted on 01/28/2005 7:29:30 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: frannie
This is the punch line, The doctor who was reading my mri called in another doctor and I asked if something was wrong. He said no, he wanted the other doctor to see me because I moved and looked as if I should be 51 not 71.

Heheh!


147 posted on 01/28/2005 7:33:49 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion
That means that even using the biased data that is out there, a USWM smoker has only an 8x more risk of dying from lung cancer than a nonsmoker.

That's still 8x more likely to contract a terrible disease that robs you of your ability to breath and causes great pain. Even if it's not 40-50x (I'm still not entirely convinced that it's not), that's still a tremendous increase in risk. How can it be worth it?

148 posted on 01/28/2005 7:34:19 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: VermiciousKnid
Reformed whores, and all that...

I got news for YOU buckaroo........our First Lady is a smoker! How do you like THAT? Still want to call us WHORES?

PERVERT! How dare you!

149 posted on 01/28/2005 7:35:48 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: Madame Dufarge
Good night!
150 posted on 01/28/2005 7:37:13 PM PST by Nooseman (by Mrs nooseman)
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To: T.Smith; TexasCowboy
So much for our friendly discussion.

You couldn't make a pimple on TexasCowboy's butt!

151 posted on 01/28/2005 7:37:28 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion

Thanks, She Lion. I like having the experts in my corner...or am I in theirs? LOL!


152 posted on 01/28/2005 7:38:18 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: All

I can't believe the naysayers on this thread!!!

I am in FULL SUPPORT of ALL of the smokers...and I want them to smoke as much as they possibly can!!

NO ONE could want that more than I do.


153 posted on 01/28/2005 7:38:32 PM PST by paulat
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To: SheLion

SheLion...look who you're talking to. It's ME!

"Reformed whores" refered to those former smokers who become antis. (Like Christy Turlington)

Regards,


154 posted on 01/28/2005 7:38:32 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: T.Smith; TexasCowboy
I'm curious, for cryin' out loud. If you don't want to tell me, then STFU.

YOU STFU you pompous ass!

155 posted on 01/28/2005 7:39:57 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: T.Smith
That's still 8x more likely to contract a terrible disease that robs you of your ability to breath and causes great pain. Even if it's not 40-50x (I'm still not entirely convinced that it's not), that's still a tremendous increase in risk. How can it be worth it?

It's legal and I enjoy it. Some people love to eat. I enjoy my coffee and cigarettes. How's that!


156 posted on 01/28/2005 7:41:36 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: paulat

Do you get your kicks out of being randomly unpleasant, or something?


157 posted on 01/28/2005 7:42:26 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: SheLion

Second hand smoke.... "IS FREE"....and un-taxed,,, as of this date -1/28/05..


158 posted on 01/28/2005 7:42:31 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: exnavychick

I am COMPLETELY supporting your right to smoke!!!


159 posted on 01/28/2005 7:43:39 PM PST by paulat
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To: exnavychick
Thanks, She Lion. I like having the experts in my corner...or am I in theirs? LOL!

I have so many links disproving the tactics of smoking and second smoke I can't even find them all. I have done a LOT of research, believe me!

The anti's are just turning the truth into their own lies to continue to rape the taxes from cigarettes out of the smokers to continue lining their pockets.

They are gluttonist pigs!

160 posted on 01/28/2005 7:44:47 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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