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Company Fires Smokers
The Associated Press. ^ | The Associated Press.

Posted on 01/24/2005 6:01:07 PM PST by Eurotwit

Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time

LANSING, Mich. -- A Michigan health care company has fired four of its employees for refusing to take a test to determine whether they smoke cigarettes.

The company enacted a new policy this month, allowing workers to be fired if they smoke, even if the smoking takes place after-hours, or at home.

The founder of Weyco Inc. said the company doesn't want to pay the higher health care costs associated with smoking.

An official of the company -- which administers health benefits -- estimated that 18 to 20 of its 200 employees were smokers when the policy was first announced in 2003. As many as 14 of them quit smoking before the policy went into effect.


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To: exnavychick

I just read through it. Wow...There are some wacky freepers out there.

Different title though. Ask the mod to delete if you want...

I am going to have a smoke.

Cheers.


21 posted on 01/24/2005 6:21:49 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: rllngrk33
Is this company looking for a discrimination lawsuit?

Smokers are not a protected class. Gays, who have a much reduced and costly lifespan due to aids and other sexuallly related diseases are protected.

22 posted on 01/24/2005 6:22:35 PM PST by umgud
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To: Eurotwit

Nah, I'll let it go. They'll delete it if need be. Have one for me, wouldja? LOL


23 posted on 01/24/2005 6:23:04 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: exnavychick

BTW. This kind of crap, makes me take another look at government anti-discrimination laws.

The President held a great speech about liberty the other day.

This isn't it.


24 posted on 01/24/2005 6:24:32 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: exnavychick

Wouldn't that be a thread policeperson?


25 posted on 01/24/2005 6:27:59 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: Eurotwit

Tell that to the nanny-staters. I'm surprised how many turn up around here on these kinds of threads.

People get some odd ideas about what liberty really is, I guess. Even I get confused from time to time, to be fair. :)


26 posted on 01/24/2005 6:28:31 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: philetus

Ah, yes. You're quite right, of course. Now the PC police are REALLY gonna be after me! LOL


27 posted on 01/24/2005 6:29:20 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: Eurotwit

All they need is a doctor's permission to smoke medical nicotine.....


28 posted on 01/24/2005 6:32:32 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Eurotwit
The founder of Weyco Inc. said the company doesn't want to pay the higher health care costs associated with smoking.

Is this pronounced WACO as in Janet Reno or Wacko as in Michael Jackson...?

29 posted on 01/24/2005 6:34:44 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Eurotwit

At what point do we stop letting insurance actuaries stop running our lives?


30 posted on 01/24/2005 6:35:23 PM PST by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: Eurotwit
If this idiot likes excitement, he should fire anyone with AIDS.
Never heard of a 95-year-old with AIDS. But 9 of the 10 longest lived people of record smoked past age 95...

Name of this company please? What do they sell or what "service" do they provide?
(Besides terminal delusional contol of others, that is.)

31 posted on 01/24/2005 6:44:31 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: SoDak

The world is insane. Smoke one cigarette and they don't want to pay your health insurance. BUT get AIDS because you take an action which you know can kill you, and the company will cheerfully pay for your health insurance.


32 posted on 01/24/2005 6:44:42 PM PST by kitkat
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To: SoDak

I know - this company is owned by NYC mayor Mike Bloomberg!
That's gotta be it.


33 posted on 01/24/2005 6:46:57 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Publius6961

http://www.weyco.com/web/company/index.jsp


34 posted on 01/24/2005 6:52:49 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
WEYCO, INC treats personal information securely and confidentially. WEYCO, INC limits access to personal information to only those persons who need to know that information to provide products or services to plan sponsors and/or participants (for example, WEYCO, INC claim processors and care coordinators and the designated representative of the plan administrator for the plans that WEYCO, INC assists in administering). These persons are trained on the importance of safeguarding this information and must comply with WEYCO, INC procedures and applicable law. WEYCO, INC applies strict physical, electronic and procedural security standards to protect personal information and to maintain internal procedures to promote the integrity and accuracy of that information.

Guess this doesn't apply to Employees. U Of Mich insurer

35 posted on 01/24/2005 6:52:55 PM PST by marty60
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To: Eurotwit

Liberty works both ways.

The owners of the company should be at liberty to hire and fire who they please. It is their company after all.


36 posted on 01/24/2005 6:55:06 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Eurotwit

You mean after all the years of having Americans pee in a cup for employment, its spreading to other vices? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!


37 posted on 01/24/2005 6:57:33 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: DB

I agree with you.

Or, rather, I still agree with you, but if companies start to act like fascists I might reconsider.

Then, perhaps government has a role to preserve individual liberty on the expense of business owners. I am not sure, but stories like this make me want to give this issue a serious look.

I am no longer a teenage libertarian.


38 posted on 01/24/2005 7:06:20 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Wolfie

You don't pee in a cup to discover whether you had a glass of wine with dinner the night before. Last time I checked, smoking a cigarette in your own home was legal.


39 posted on 01/24/2005 7:07:09 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Eurotwit

Looks like four lucky people just came into a windfall. Question is: will they fire their former boss when they buy the company?


40 posted on 01/24/2005 7:22:49 PM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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