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Judge orders school to remove evolution disclaimer from textbooks
The Baptist Standard ^ | 1/21/05 | Robert Marus

Posted on 01/23/2005 11:52:29 AM PST by beavus

WASHINGTON (ABP)—A federal judge has struck down a suburban Atlanta school district’s policy of placing disclaimers about evolution in science textbooks, saying the policy violates the Constitution’s ban on government establishment of religion.

United States District Judge Clarence Cooper issued a ruling ordering the immediate removal of textbook stickers that caution evolution is “a theory, not a fact.” The disclaimer is placed in public-school science texts in Cobb County, Ga.

The Atlanta-based judge said the school board’s policy ordering the stickers be placed in middle-school and high-school textbooks sends “a message that the school board agrees with the beliefs of Christian fundamentalists and creationists.”

The ruling came in response to a group of Cobb County parents who filed a lawsuit against the school board asking for a halt to the policy.

Cooper, applying a test prescribed by a 1971 U.S. Supreme Court decision to determine if a government action violates the First Amendment’s establishment clause, said a reasonable observer would conclude that the stickers represented the school board’s endorsement of the religious view that God created the world a few thousand years ago in six literal days.

Such a reasonable observer, Cooper said, “would interpret the sticker to convey a message of endorsement of religion. That is, the sticker sends a message to those who oppose evolution for religious reasons that they are favored members of the political community, while the sticker sends a message to those who believe in evolution that they are political outsiders.”

In a preface to the opinion, Cooper took pains to note that his findings concern only a narrow legal issue and was not a pronouncement on other issues surrounding the controversy over the origin of species.

“First, the court is not resolving in this case whether science and religion are mutually exclusive, and the court takes no position on the origin of the human species,” Cooper wrote.

“Second, the issue before the court is not whether it is constitutionally permissible for public school teachers to teach intelligent design, the theory that only an intelligent or supernatural cause could be responsible for life, living things, and the complexity of the universe,” he continued.

“Third, this case does not resolve the ongoing debate regarding whether evolution is a fact or theory or whether evolution should be taught as fact or theory.”

The policy stems from a petition drive organized by Cobb County parent Marjorie Rogers in 2002. Rogers, who according to the opinion describes herself as a “six-day biblical creationist,” had complained about the lack of a disclaimer in the textbooks.

But, Cooper noted, the board didn’t order disclaimers regarding other theories that have some religious implications. “However, there are other scientific topics taught that have religious implications, such as the theories of gravity, relativity, and Galilean heliocentrism,” he wrote.

The head of a Washington-based group that supports strict church-state separation hailed the ruling as a “great decision.”

“These textbook disclaimers are part of a national campaign to undercut the teaching of evolution in public schools in accordance with fundamentalist Christian beliefs,” said Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. “Today’s court decision will throw a major roadblock in the path of that crusade. Public schools may not be used to advance religious dogma, and the court has rightly upheld that principle.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creationism; crevolist; education; evolution; poofism; science
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1 posted on 01/23/2005 11:52:31 AM PST by beavus
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To: beavus

And if they don't then what.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 11:55:13 AM PST by zzen01
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To: beavus

Judge Cooper was appointed a United States District Court Judge for the Northern District of Georgia by President Clinton on May 9, 1994.


3 posted on 01/23/2005 11:58:26 AM PST by glock rocks ( Miss Kitty, the sun hasn't come up on the day that Marshal Dillon can't take care of himself.)
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To: zzen01

LOL.

Use civil disobedience. Make innumerable copies of the sticker and post it everywhere, including on every other textbook in the school.
...drinking fountains....
...bathroom doors and stalls....
...windows, desks, floor tiles....

You could really have a blast with this if you're in a fun mood. Heh heh heh.


4 posted on 01/23/2005 11:58:40 AM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: beavus

I'm waiting for the day when a judge says that Congress cannot begin each days session with a prayer.


5 posted on 01/23/2005 11:59:57 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: beavus

This is nonsense.

Evolution is a theory, not a fact, since you can't conduct experiments to prove it. I don't see how that means religion is being forced on students.


7 posted on 01/23/2005 12:11:13 PM PST by Bouchart
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To: TitansAFC

LOL--the only possible reaction! Is it possible that the good judge doesn't realize that "evolution" itself is a theory?


8 posted on 01/23/2005 12:11:28 PM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: ZellsBells
that it just poofed into existence

Not everybody, but poofism does have a passionate following on this forum.

9 posted on 01/23/2005 12:33:42 PM PST by beavus
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To: Bouchart
Evolution is a theory, not a fact

You could say that evolution comprises a body of theories that reasonably explains a wealth of facts. Some aspects of the field are reasonably labelled as "facts" themselves.

10 posted on 01/23/2005 12:38:26 PM PST by beavus
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To: Mach9
Is it possible that the good judge doesn't realize that "evolution" itself is a theory?

One couldn't teach science without teaching theories. Labeling ideas as "theories" doesn't diminish them. Ideas in science are diminished by the quality of the supporting evidence.

11 posted on 01/23/2005 12:44:31 PM PST by beavus
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To: zzen01

But, Cooper noted, the board didn’t order disclaimers regarding other theories that have some religious implications. “However, there are other scientific topics taught that have religious implications, such as the theories of gravity, relativity, and Galilean heliocentrism,” he wrote.
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I want what he's smoking.

When did gravity get a religious following?


12 posted on 01/23/2005 12:44:58 PM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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America. Bent on letting Communists and other RAT-RINO ilk continue the absurd notions of Evotards.

Hey, I tried the Evotard Religion and it wasn't true, so I left.

Life has been bizarre and incredibly more dangerous and worthy of doing ever since!

Blessings from 'over there'.

I see the rotted American left/center is STILL lost and losing.

Murdering butchers, queers, haters...RUNNING away from God - then blaming Him when a disaster drowns them eternally.

I've found prayer is very effectual, so I'll pray for this 'judge', the ex-TRIMPOTUS appointee.



13 posted on 01/23/2005 1:20:11 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (Pray for the Lord's hand in the Iraqi elections (& I ain't talkin bout the dead terrorist pedophile))
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To: zzen01
And if they don't then what?

Exactly! If the tyranny of the judiciary is to be stopped, judges must (MUST!) be ignored when they stick their noses where judicial noses don't belong. They shouldn't be argued with or reasoned with. They need to be ignored, perhaps after being briefly laughed at.

14 posted on 01/23/2005 1:29:48 PM PST by stevem
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To: beavus
The major difference between scientists and theologians is the FACT that scientists are willing to change their minds as new FACTS become available. Theologians have their minds made up and don't wish to be confused by the FACTS.
Example: Early astronomers knew that the earth circled the sun. Several of them were burned at the stake when they said such a thing. It was declared heresy. It was not until the 19th Century that the church finally admitted that the early astronomers were right. The reason sun-centrice universe was considered heresy was that the church had declared that the universe was geocentric, therefore, anything to the contrary was against the Bible, therefore was heresy.
A scientific theory such as Evolution is a theory because it explains a set of facts that can be explained no other way. Other theories include (surprise!!) Gravity and Electromagnetism, to name a couple. The reason they are theories is that EVERYTHING is not known about the phenomena--there is much to yet to be discovered. When facts become available the theories will be changed.

For instance: what makes the apple fall down instead of up? How does gravity work? Simple questions, complex answers. Quantum Theory is opening up all sorts of avenues of exploration for insights into both gravity and electromagnetism and atomic theory. Recommend you catch up on such things, unless you want to be confused by the facts.
One more thing: I am a devout, practicing Christian. Seems to me that you don't need to close your mind to Christ (or any other religion) to allow use of your God-given reason.
15 posted on 01/23/2005 1:31:49 PM PST by BLASTER 14
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To: Mach9

Maybe the judge is convinced that his ancestors were monkeys.


16 posted on 01/23/2005 1:36:13 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: beavus

No, no, no--I'm not talking about The-Origin-of-Species evolution (which all by itself is a bundle of theory and factual observation)! I'm talking about the mis-cited "Origin-of-the-Species" crackpot version evolution--what is generally implied by Creationist-theory haters and which includes (ipso facto anti-Creationism) big-bang, chemical fogs (you-name-it) THEORY in its broadest, most hypothetical sense.


17 posted on 01/23/2005 1:58:53 PM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: beavus

"Theory," to be precise here, is passed on, not "taught," in the hopes that it may attract a proof. What we're talking about here, I think, is that "theory" ought to be defined as nothing MORE than it is. My theory about a mystical cabbage patch as source of life is nearly as relevant as mistaught Darwinism.


18 posted on 01/23/2005 2:03:22 PM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: BLASTER 14
Easy there, scientist ignore facts that don't fit the pet theory of the day. There are no facts to prove the Grand Canyon formed over a bazilion years, or the Mississippi Delta took equally long. A world wide flood with have made both in a period of hours. You won't here a 'scientist' even theorize that because he'd be laughed out of the little scientist club. Evolutionist witness massive changes in the universe yet claim the earth has been relatively stead in its state for millions of years. Its laughable these scientist do not take into account the facts that the earth is indeed slowing in is rotation, that the moon is indeed pulling away from the earth and the list goes on....

The 'scientists' ignore the fact that the violate the rules of Thermodynamics whenever they get in trouble.

The 'scientists' are the ones that are closed minded and unwilling to accept they just simply don't know and don't even have a theory that holds water.
19 posted on 01/23/2005 2:08:18 PM PST by Plant7Pugsley
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To: Bouchart
Evolution is a theory, not a fact, since you can't conduct experiments to prove it.

Ahhhh! Where do they come from?!?! Where do you people learn science? Did you all go to Baylor!?!?
20 posted on 01/23/2005 2:20:20 PM PST by Alacarte (There is no knowledge that is not power)
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