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Woman who died with bear guru was duped.(Treadwell, environut)
Anchorage Daily News ^ | 1/16/2005 | Craig Medred

Posted on 01/21/2005 7:51:46 PM PST by SolidRedState

For 16 months since Amie Huguenard and Timothy Treadwell died in the jaws of a bear at Kaflia Bay on the Katmai Coast, I have been waking up at night with thoughts of this 37-year-old Midwestern woman I never knew.

I can't get free of the words in an e-mail from an old boyfriend, sent months after Huguenard's death.

"Amie had a kind of naivete about her that added a real sweetness to her entire persona,'' Stephen Bunch wrote. "At times it was easy to convince her of things that were not entirely true. We would let her in on these jokes and get a good laugh, especially from her.

"Sometimes I found this quality frustrating because I would watch her 'swallow the hook, line and sinker' in situations where it was obvious what was going on. But I always felt I could trust her because she bestowed the same trust in you unconditionally.''

The last person Amie Huguenard trusted was Treadwell, and it led to her death in the jaws of a bear.

Ever since, she has been billed as Treadwell's "partner" in the tragedy. Early reviews of "Grizzly Man,'' a Treadwell film set to air at the Sundance Film Festival later this month, describe her that way or as the "girlfriend'' following Treadwell on his quest to "leave the confinements of his humanness and bond with the bears.''

That's a novel idea -- and one that is so much bunk.

http://www.adn.com/outdoors/story/6029929p-5919386c.html

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alaska; animalrights; bears; bigguns; environment; environuts; gorillabikini; maul; timothytreadwell; treadwell; wackos
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To: judywillow

Okay, if you say so.


181 posted on 01/22/2005 6:43:46 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: Squantos
"The Englishman fires the rifle at the elephant.
The elephant goes one way, and the Englishman goes the other.
Whoever gets up first wins.
If neither gets up, their possessions are divided according to the laws of the jungle."

I don't shoot anything dangerous enough to make me put up with the kick from the 460 Wby.

There are feral hogs on my parents' island, and a couple of the boars are big enough to where I carry the .348 when I walk at night. It's enough to ruin even a 200 pound boar hog.

182 posted on 01/22/2005 6:44:53 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Squantos

But what about the poor guy who has to shoot it? I did the calculation on recoil engergy on my little bitty .300 and it was 35 foot pounds of energy. A M1 rifle has about 12 foot pounds of recoil energy. I would hate to think what the .460 has.


183 posted on 01/22/2005 6:48:10 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I am not talking about just military loads. However you did miss two. We had a rifle that one of my relatives brought home from the Spanish Armerican war and it was a bolt action, tube loaded 45/70. Also when the 03 Springfield first came out, it used the 30-03 instead of the 30-06. It was a 30 cal with a 220 or 240 grain bullet. The long range ballistics on it were horrible so they went to the 30-06 with about a 165 grain bullet or so. Trust me, I lost a bet on that one. Look it up.


184 posted on 01/22/2005 6:54:48 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: U S Army EOD; AnAmericanMother

I believe last I looked it has 114 pounds of recoil vs 14 for an 30-06. Mine is a Ruger number one "H" that left the factory as a .458 Win Mag and was at some point rechambered. I bought it from a deputy sheriff in New Mexico about 20 years ago and love it.......I don't have the problem with recoil so much . Guess our career in EOD kinda rendered safe the flinch complex......:o)

Ya'll Stay safe !


185 posted on 01/22/2005 6:56:44 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SolidRedState
For 16 months since Amie Huguenard and Timothy Treadwell died in the jaws of a bear at Kaflia Bay

I still can't believe it's been 16 months since that story, what an @$$#*!& that guy was and that dumb woman who went with him.

186 posted on 01/22/2005 6:58:32 PM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: Squantos
That's like the .454 Casull that a friend of mine has.

If I ever meet anything that justifies the recoil, I may buy one. Otherwise I'll stick with my .45 ACP for general purpose use, and my S&W .41 Mag for handgun hunting.

187 posted on 01/22/2005 6:59:53 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Squantos

I still flinch every time I hear a boom or see a bright flash I don't expect.

Speaking of fliching, the way I stop myself with the .300 is to load a few dummy rounds and mix them in with the rest of the live ones when I am target shooting. If I get only a click and the cross hairs aren't still on the target, I beat myself on the head a few times.

With my luck I will have one of the dummy rounds mixed in with the hunting ammo the day the grizzly escapes from the local zoo. (This would be the only way possible I would go after one with anything smaller than the .340).


188 posted on 01/22/2005 7:03:16 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: SunnyUsa

Yes but it gave us about three days of laughs and entertainment on FreeRepublic.


189 posted on 01/22/2005 7:05:50 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Agree.... I carry a 1911A1 or a SIG 220 daily thus the 45 Auto is fodder I believe in also. I have a Ruger Bisley in 500 linebaugh that is "zero" fun to shoot with full house buffalo bore ammunition. I can tolerate reloads that are lite but it defeats the purpose to load it down to 45 colt velocities IMO.....cept for fun on paper vs pachyderms.

My 329PD is also painful with magnums so it is fed only .44 specials for lower 48 fishing and wheeling trips. My favorite is a S&W Custom Shop Hunter package in 45 Colt and I've taken lots of game with it......very good handgun hunting rig.

For a dangerous game stopper while I was stationed in Alaska I carried a old rusty remington 870, on a sling with a pistol grip and too short of a barrel on a sling while I fished. loaded with slugs and 00 Buck it was insurance I never needed gladly.....


190 posted on 01/22/2005 7:12:23 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

I once took the C4 out of a claymore mine and mounted it on an extra M14 rifle stock that we had at the 8th EOD. You could hold it like a rifle and aim the claymore. We told people that it was for close in fighting. I had it above my desk on the wall. Thennnnnnnn one day we got a call from an infantry unit wanting to know if it would really work because they had a guy fixing to try it. I still had the phone in my hand with the other trying to rip my toy off the wall while trying to explain it was really a joke. The infantry is a lot of good things, but brillant just isn't one of them.


191 posted on 01/22/2005 7:30:34 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: U S Army EOD
Yep......some things we saw ya just can't make up if ya wanted ! I tell folks my VIP stories bout the likes of Patsy Schroder (sp?) from Colorado and Hillery etc etc and they just kinda go ...yeah right. Good thing I have pics !

Stay Safe my EOD Brother !

192 posted on 01/22/2005 7:38:10 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: U S Army EOD

I wasn't sure if it was adapted with that cartridge or not so I left it off. Thanks for the information.

Now here's one for you. The bolt action 45-70 you described sounds like a Hotchkiss. 1878 The actions were made by Winchester and the rest made by Springfield.


193 posted on 01/22/2005 7:40:42 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Squantos

The stories that shocked me more than anything are the ones the guys in my unit told me that I didn't know about years later. They said they just didn't want to burden me with more problems at the time.


194 posted on 01/22/2005 7:41:33 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: U S Army EOD

lolol


195 posted on 01/22/2005 7:46:09 PM PST by patton (Genesis 3:16)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Well, that set of relative are all dead and the hotel that it was in has been sold several times. I wonder who has the rifle??? Should be worth a bit. It was in mint condition.


196 posted on 01/22/2005 7:47:17 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: U S Army EOD

Oh Gheeeesh LOL.....Ain't that the truth.....after I retired it was a friggin confessional party........they all got their guilt off their chests at my retirement party. Funny thing was the drunk suckers were spewing their sins in front of the new shop superintendent. We were a small 8 man team and didn't have an OIC or commander just a NCOIC. He was taking notes and grinnin as I kept em talking. World was proven round once again....

They really thought they had got over on the system......:o)

Too funny....


197 posted on 01/22/2005 7:47:58 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Back when we use to have red fenders on the trucks, if I heard this one time I must have heard it a million times when my guys got caught doing something, "Gee sir, how do you think they figured out it was us that did it"?


198 posted on 01/22/2005 7:51:50 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: U S Army EOD
Well, my daddy always said that if he had had any brains at the time, he wouldn't have been in EOD . . .

I don't know where he got the brains from in the interim since WWII, he seems like a pretty smart guy these days . . .

Of course, it may have something to do with the fact that he was 19 at the time and a sophomore at the Citadel until they backed the train up to the door and carried them all away in 1942 . . . :-D

(I dunno . . . how smart does he look to you? ;-) )

199 posted on 01/23/2005 12:22:45 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

If he went to the Citadel he couldn't be very smart.:)

North Georgia College
Class of 1966

During the Cuban Crisis in 1962 they called the senior and junior classes in. They told the senior class if we go to war tomorrow, you graduate tomorrow afternoon and told the juniors if that happens you will be the senior class.


200 posted on 01/23/2005 12:47:31 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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