Posted on 01/18/2005 9:49:17 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Top flight scientists have something to tell you about evolution. Such statements will never be found in the popular magazines, alonside georgeous paintings of ape-man and Big Bangs and solemn pronuncements about millions of years for this rock and that fish. Instead they are generally reesrved only for professional books and journals.
Most scientists are working in very narrow fields; they do not see the overall picture, and assume, even though their field does not prove evolution, that perhaps other areas of science probably vindicate it. They are well-meaning men. The biologists and geneticists know their facts, and research does not prove evolution, but assume that geology does. The geologists know their field does not prove veolution, but hope that the biologists and geneticists have proven it. Those who do know the facts, fear to disclose them to the general public, lest they be fired. But they do write articles in their own professional journals and books, condemning evolutionary theory.
Included below are a number of admissions by leading evolutionists of earlier decades, such as *Charles Darwin*, *Austin Clark, or *Fred Hoyle. The truth is that evolutionits cannot make scientific facts fit the theory.
An asterisk (*) by a name indicates that person is not known to be a creationist. Of over 4,000 quotations in the set of books this encyclopedia is based on (see BOOKSTORE), only 164 statements are by creationists.
(Excerpt) Read more at pathlights.com ...
Maybe it's because science is not determined by quotes.
If you believe that creationism is valid science, prove creationism. To do that you have to do more than find flaws with evolution, you have to scientifically prove creationism.
Just curious. What are the data you use to support creationism?
Most scientific journals are available online - go ahead and read as many as you want. We'll wait.
Or do you need the help of some third grader to point the way?
Or, perhaps, you want don't to read them at all?
You act as if all scientists believe in evolution. Nothing could be further from the case.
Well, well, yours is just one of the many cute remarks posted by the pro-evolutionists on here. This is what it always comes down to when someone challenges evolutionary theory.
You pro-evolutionary theory guys on here are really quite insecure.
The attempt to have a non-cut down/non-cute remark debate concerning the validity of evolutionary theory has apparently ended on here. Ended by insecure pro-evolutionists.
See you all later.
Perhaps you could get your bottle of Prozac refilled. You really shouldn't be out in public when you're acting in this way, you know.
Hey, don't run away from the question: What are the data you use to support creationism?
balrog666 said: "Or do you need the help of a third grader to point the way?"
Like I said...Let the cut downs begin!, by those who are pro-evolutionists. When someone even wants to debate the validity of evolution you guys start the cute remarks and cut downs.
Your insecurity on the validity of evolutionary thought is definitely showing.
Not all, merely 98-99%
Should the same be done for creationism? Remind the students that this is religious belief, not based in science?
What "both sides" are you talking about? The case for and against evolution on the basis of what's missing from the scientific record? Or does "both sides" mean evolution and creationism?
And perhaps it would be best if we simply taught the students the meaning of the word "theory", which would probably help you out as well, given that your grasp of the definition of the term seems a bit shaky.
By definition, a theory is "unproven", it is "a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain natural phenomena <a theory of organic evolution." Note that the definition of the word theory nowhere contains the word "fact".
With that information in hand, our students would be even better prepared to deal with the information.
Thanks for the ping!
I am not running away like a cowrd. What facts presented? I just wanted to have a debate on the validity of evolution. I just wanted to see some quotes that remotely even come close to proving evolution. Instead I get neither. What I get is cute remarks, cut downs and deafening silence by you pro-evolutionists here when it comes to providing ample, solid proof that absolutely proves that evolution is anything more than a hole-ridden theory.
Please defend evolution. Please prove that it is absolutely true and not just one of many hole-ridden theories.
a quote is a quote, regardless of the time it was stated, if it is relevant to the topic at hand it remains so until disproven. nothing has happened in those intervening 25+ years to improve the situation for evolutionists.
The number of quotes from evolutionists condemning evolution is really devastating.
??? evolutionists condemning evolution ???
Hmmmm...and they are still evolutionists? Interesting.
No, there appears to be a long-term pattern concerning what I stated.
Both sides. The scientists who believing in evolution, and the scientists that don't believe in evolution.
There are scientists on both sides.
There are, in fact, non-religious scientists who don't believe in evolution. Let them and the non-religion scientists who do believe in evolution slug it out. We could start from there....
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