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Anti-war leaders expect crowd (Fayetteville FReep, anyone?)
The Fayetteville Observer ^ | Jan 16, 2005 | Allison Williams

Posted on 01/16/2005 5:56:44 AM PST by clyde asbury

Published on: Sunday, Jan 16, 2005


Anti-war leaders expect crowd

By Allison Williams
Staff writer


On the one-year anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq, hundreds gathered in Fayetteville for what some called the city's largest peace rally since the Vietnam War.

Even more people are expected for the second anniversary.

A rally set for March 19 at Rowan Park is being advertised nationally by United for Peace and Justice. On its Web site, the group is promoting a ''major regional protest in Fayetteville, N.C.''

The day after the rally, Iraq Veterans Against the War plans to hold its national convention here. Mike Hoffman, a former Marine who lives near Philadelphia, is the group's national coordinator.

''People talk constantly about numbers and strategy,'' he said. ''They're forgetting the individual stories of people.''

Organizers said the highlight of last year's rally was the stories from veterans and military families. Chuck Fager said he expects veterans, military families and perhaps even active-duty soldiers to give talks this year.

Fager is director of the Quaker House, an organization that helps soldiers who want to leave the military. It helped plan last year's rally. This year, the Quaker House and Fayetteville Peace for Justice decided to invite people back. Other groups sponsoring the rally include the North Carolina Peace and Justice Coalition, North Carolina Council of Churches, Military Families Speak Out, Bring Them Home Now and Veterans for Peace.

Lou Plummer, co-founder of Fayetteville Peace for Justice, said one of the main reasons he supports the rally is that he has friends and family serving in the military.

''This is my hometown; I grew up here,'' he said. ''This war is not something abstract I read about in the newspaper. It touches my life in a small way every day.''

Plummer and Fager said this year's rally will be similar to last year's. It will start with a march and feature speakers, music, poetry, art and dancing. Fager is hoping for a celebrity speaker.

Last year, many people were scared to come to Fayetteville, Fager said. But the rally - and counterdemonstration across the street - passed without incident.

''People who wanted to come last time but were too nervous to do it probably won't be so nervous this time,'' Fager said.

Fager said it is difficult to measure the rally's influence, but he and other war protesters receive support whenever they are out.

They held their last Fayetteville peace vigil in November.

''We had the same reaction then that we've had since the summer of 2003,'' he said, ''more favorable responses than unfavorable. That reinforces our sense that there are a growing number of people uneasy about the war.''

Plummer said last year's rally was effective because it gave people a voice.

''It was not effective in that we're still in Iraq,'' he said. ''If this rally doesn't help stop the war, we'll have one next year, but I hope not. I want this to be the last one.''

Staff writer Allison Williams can be reached at williamsa@fayettevillenc.com or 323-4848, ext. 331. Copyright 2005 The Fayetteville (NC) Observer


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: antiwar; dawn; dawndc; fayetteville; freep; hatingamerica; northcarolina; ufpj; unitedpeacejustice
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To: MyraK

Innocent children.....give me a break. There are none as you have described.

Voices of reason...... radical pacifists are completely unreasonable. Brains are closed with a 2" rind permittiing no rational thoughts to enter.

You have described the enemy, not someone worthy of hearing.

Life as you think it is over.


82 posted on 01/24/2005 1:55:59 PM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: clyde asbury
''People talk constantly about numbers and strategy,'' he said. ''They're forgetting the individual stories of people.''

Sounds like he's criticizing the wrong people. Aren't the anti-war people the ones always throwing the number of dead and injured out there? Anyway, I know on FR we don't forget the individual stories. Maybe I'm just jaded?

83 posted on 01/24/2005 1:58:30 PM PST by eyespysomething (I'm speechless here, but don't worry, it won't last long. Ask my husband.)
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To: dstarr
I just want to know who will go dressed in the belly dancer outfit.

Hey, I missed this part. I said last year that if we could make it *this* year, I'd be prepared to dance! Do we have a sound system?

84 posted on 01/30/2005 7:46:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Tax-chick

No. We don't have a sound system. I don't know where the one last year came from. Did the DC Chapter bring one? I know they let me give my strange yell with it and really turned some heads.


85 posted on 02/06/2005 6:08:09 PM PST by dstarr (Proud widow of a Vietnam War and Korean War veteran)
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To: dstarr

Well, should I bring my Arabic music tapes and my dance outfit, or would that be too, er, liberal?


86 posted on 02/06/2005 7:26:26 PM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! That is toooo funny. Girl, you can wear whatever you want. I'm going to wear as much red and cowboy attire as possible.


87 posted on 02/07/2005 3:47:36 PM PST by dstarr (Proud widow of a Vietnam War and Korean War veteran)
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To: dstarr

I'm planning to make matching jumpers for me and all the girls in a patriotic print. But maybe I'll throw in a dance costume, just in case the occasion looks right ...


88 posted on 02/07/2005 3:52:52 PM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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To: dstarr

Doctor Raoul will bring his sound system again!


89 posted on 02/13/2005 6:26:30 PM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: Petes Sandy Girl; TaxRelief

Ping! I will be there!


90 posted on 02/13/2005 6:32:19 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: TaxRelief

That is good to hear. I was wondering what we would do. I'll bring my CD player and make some patriotic CDs if we want to bombard the "unwashed".


91 posted on 02/14/2005 8:48:13 AM PST by dstarr (Proud widow of a Vietnam War and Korean War veteran)
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To: clyde asbury

I'm so sick of these idiots. Families shouldn't have to listen to this crap. They really shouldn't.


92 posted on 02/14/2005 8:55:15 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: armymarinemom

Love your tag line!


93 posted on 02/14/2005 11:37:14 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief; dstarr; Huber; clyde asbury; upchuck
Less than one month to go...

Do we have a permit?

Are we going to have two locations this year as well?

94 posted on 02/20/2005 7:33:05 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox; Doctor Raoul; clyde asbury; wolfpat; Diva Betsy Ross; Tax-chick; Constitution Day; ...

We have a permit for an "undisclosed" location.

We would like to plan an organizational meeting for next week for all who are interested in organizing the event. Does anyone know how to set up Pal talk?

We have other groups involved, now, too.


95 posted on 02/20/2005 9:15:41 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
I wonder if the commies will have the "Paul Newman" ice cream truck again this year.

For those who have never seen it, the lefties have and old ice cream truck they use in their marches. They have anti American spew murals painted on both sides. One side was supposed to be President Bush but when I first saw it I asked "what's Paul Newman doing to that missile? The "artwork" looked more like him than the President."
96 posted on 02/20/2005 9:22:59 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Witty tag line on back order.)
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To: TaxRelief

The location is given on the permit I have.

It doesn't show very well on the triplicate, but it is for Rowan Park.

But, maybe you meant another one?


97 posted on 02/20/2005 9:23:40 AM PST by clyde asbury (Genesis ch. 1 v. 32)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Photo by dstarr.

98 posted on 02/20/2005 9:28:57 AM PST by clyde asbury (Genesis ch. 1 v. 32)
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To: TaxRelief
Pal Talk site: http://www.paltalk.com/PalTalkSite/products.html

Looks like it's free for what we want to do. Everybody that wants to participate would have to dl and install. IMHO, it will be best if we communicate via keyboard. Microphones and speakers may be a bit much, especially for the 56K folks like me.

Sounds good to me. I'd like to participate.

And I'd also be willing to be an "early adopter" of Pal Talk so we can figure it out, etc. Any others?

99 posted on 02/20/2005 9:32:23 AM PST by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: clyde asbury

Cool. We're in the park. Excellent.


100 posted on 02/20/2005 9:39:23 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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