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2/3s of Fla. Provisional Ballots Rejected
yahoo ^ | 1/3/05

Posted on 01/03/2005 1:42:29 PM PST by finnman69

2/3s of Fla. Provisional Ballots Rejected

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Nearly two-thirds of the provisional ballots cast in Florida on Election Day were not counted, mostly because the voters were not registered, officials said Monday.

County elections officials said 27,742 provisional ballots were cast and 9,915 were counted, but 17,827 were rejected. The numbers may be revised but are not expected to change dramatically, officials said.

"The majority of the ones that were rejected were because the people were not registered to vote," said Jenny Nash, spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: provisionalballots; provisonalballots; stealingelections; votefraud
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According to an analysis by the Tallahassee Democrat, slightly more than 7 percent of the provisional ballots were tossed because voters had been purged from the rolls. They were dropped because they had not voted in several years or were found to be ex-felons, the paper reported.

.....and 93% were dead voters who came back to life to vote for Kerry

1 posted on 01/03/2005 1:42:29 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69

Provisionals are such a terrible opportunity for the dims to manufacture votes.


2 posted on 01/03/2005 1:44:31 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: finnman69; King Prout; Darksheare
WHEN HELL IS FULL, THE DEAD SHALL WALK THE EARTH...and elect Democrats.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

3 posted on 01/03/2005 1:44:34 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Irish blood, English heart, is what I'm made of. There's no-one on earth I'm afraid of.")
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To: finnman69

Slowly, very slowly, the noose is tightening around democrap voting strategies.


4 posted on 01/03/2005 1:46:42 PM PST by ProudVet77 (The silly hour has begun.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

What is the point of provisional ballots anyway? If you're not registered to vote, you're not registered to vote. The dems shouldn't be allowed to go out and round up unregistered people to vote for them so that they can whine and sue for months after an election when the votes shouldn't have been cast at all.


5 posted on 01/03/2005 1:47:50 PM PST by VRWCisme
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To: finnman69
as Lawrence "the maniac" O'Donnell would say.......LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR......DIRTY ROTTEN LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR......LYING SCUM......
6 posted on 01/03/2005 1:48:02 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: finnman69

Further proof of disenfranchisement, blah blah blah, republicans are evil, blah blah blah...


7 posted on 01/03/2005 1:48:14 PM PST by Guillermo (Tsunami relief: http://compassionservices.com)
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To: VRWCisme
What is the point of provisional ballots anyway?

Because government agencies have been known to make mistakes, and individuals should have a chance to make a case whether or not that's so in their instance.

8 posted on 01/03/2005 1:51:53 PM PST by RonF
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To: VRWCisme
Consider that 1/3 of these people eventually did get their ballots counted. That's over 9,000 people that would have been disenfranchised, but were not because of provisional ballots. Government agencies DO make mistakes.
9 posted on 01/03/2005 1:53:31 PM PST by RonF
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To: NorCalRepub

And don't forget LIAR LIAR LIAR CREEPY LIAR!!


10 posted on 01/03/2005 1:55:00 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: RonF

Ok. It just seems like it was started with an eye toward creating areas for challenge. It seems like it opens the door for far more problems than it solves.


11 posted on 01/03/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by VRWCisme (I'm new around here. It's nice to meet y'all!)
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To: finnman69

If your not smart enough to register before the election your not smart enough to vote. Is it really that difficult?


12 posted on 01/03/2005 1:56:25 PM PST by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: finnman69
.....and 93% were dead voters who came back to life to vote for Kerry

Just apply that percentage in Washington State and I wonder who wins????

13 posted on 01/03/2005 1:56:36 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: RonF

Yea, but if all had been accepted 17,000 legitimate voters would have been "disenfranchised"


14 posted on 01/03/2005 1:56:45 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: RonF
Government agencies DO make mistakes.

You made that up.

15 posted on 01/03/2005 1:57:05 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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16 posted on 01/03/2005 2:00:39 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: VRWCisme

The point of a provisional ballot in reality is to prevent a major scene at the polling place.

You shut them up and make them leave rather than fight.


17 posted on 01/03/2005 2:06:16 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Black Dogs are my life.)
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To: finnman69
mostly because the voters were not registered

Are additional reasons required?

18 posted on 01/03/2005 2:11:03 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: finnman69

This represents a MASSIVE disenfranchisement of blacks!! Many/most of the provisional voters were black Cubans, Jamaicans and Haitians just trying to pick up a couple of honest dollars by voting as often as possible on and before the 11/2 election. These tactics were successful in Washington State with white voters but failed in Florida with black voters! Racism? Let's ask Jesse Jackson!


19 posted on 01/03/2005 2:19:09 PM PST by Tacis (Democrats! - When You Need America Blamed Or A Pool Peeed In!!)
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To: VRWCisme
What is the point of provisional ballots anyway?

I voted via provisional ballot this year. This was because I was listed on the voter rolls as a "permanent absentee voter", but had changed residences and the registrar of voters did not have my new address, and I had neglected to update my address for them, or "re-register" to vote anew at my new address. Of course, I had forgotten that I had ever signed up to be a permanent absentee voter, or that I hadn't voted since being at my new address, so I figured everything was kosher :-) (Since I knew I *was* registered and had been told that if I had continuously voted in prior elections, no need to re-register...)

The problem was that, I imagine, an absentee ballot was sent to my old address. Thus, when I arrived at my polling place, they had my name listed but it said they'd sent me a ballot. If they let me vote normally this risks letting me vote twice (since for all they know I might have sent in the absentee ballot; indeed they should assume as much). Thus, I was given a provisional ballot which would be counted once it was made certain that I hadn't voted absentee. Now, if the resident at my old address stole my ballot and voted with it, then that's a different problem. :-) But assuming that didn't happen, then my vote was perfectly valid and there was a perfectly good reason for them to give me a provisional ballot instead of a regular one. (Or let me use the electronic voting machine, in my precinct's case.)

If so many provisional ballots were rejected in Florida, that says to me two things, one depressing, one encouraging:

1. A lot of people were trying to vote who should not have been. (Double-residences, already-voted, felon, whatever...)

2. Florida was pretty good at catching the unlawful ballots and doing the right thing by not counting them.

All in all, sounds ok to me.

20 posted on 01/03/2005 2:22:44 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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