Doubts linger as Gregoire win certified (3500 more ballots than voters)

Seattle Times ^ | 12/31/04 | David Postman

[4woodenboats]

"This is exactly the kind of issue that I think can be brought up in the contested-election statutes," Reed said.

But why did he certify the election if the numbers are in doubt?

"What I signed was a certification for the numbers that were submitted to us by the counties," he said. "I am not in a judicial or an investigative role here."

The latest questions about King County came after the elections office released on Wednesday a list of all registered voters in the county, broken down by those who voted and those who didn't. The Republican Party, among other groups, had requested the information as part of its investigation of voting irregularities.

Conservative blogger Stefan Sharkansky pointed out the discrepancy Wednesday, and by yesterday it was Topic A among Rossi backers and Republican Party officials.

Party Chairman Chris Vance said it could be the "smoking gun" needed to overturn the election.

The number of King County ballots counted in the final tally was 899,199 — 3,539 more than the number of participating voters reported in the county's list

[hosepipe]

[ call them Communists, that's what they are, they and their ACLU buddies. ]

Communists are socialists..
Democracy is the social disease that causes socialism..

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

[Scott from the Left Coast]

"What I signed was a certification for the numbers that were submitted to us by the counties," he said. "I am not in a judicial or an investigative role here."

In other words you're a rubber-stamp that performs no useful purpose to anyone, anywhere.

That's the Sam Reed I know, and openly dis-respect.

He's a walking advertisement for saving money by eliminating his office and hiring a $16 per hour clerk to do his he-admits-it's-meaningless job.

[Snardius]

...but I do hope that the legislature of Washington fixes this mess.

I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

[bray]

The Stone-age Pressers worry about the Blacks that may have been in line and might have voted for Kerry in Ohio, but ignore hard evidence of actual fraud in WA!!! That is what happens when the CommiecRat machine runs your state.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Snardius]

No wonder Rossi called for a revote yesterday.

Rossi needs to stop and think this one out before he steps in a big pile of career ending sour grapes. This election is over and no matter how outraged we all are, the fact is that Gregiore has the upper hand. She should be allowed to take office and we all should stop acting like a bunch of post-Florida 2000 Democrats or we run the risk of snatching victory from defeat.

Gregiore's term at governor will never be legitimate in the eyes of the average voter and she will be run out of office in 4 years.

If Rossi and the rest of us get down in the mud with the D's we will surrender any integrity we now have.

It's MacArthur time. "I shall return."

[Snardius]

... we run the risk of snatching victory from defeat.

Er...that is defeat from victory
sorry, had a brain cramp

[Almondjoy]

So am I reading b correctly in saying that any of those votes counted that were made by people that weren't properly registered yet were not challenged before hand from the election will be counted anyways?

Is this overvote pointless anyways?

[hattend]

But why did he certify the election if the numbers are in doubt?

"What I signed was a certification for the numbers that were submitted to us by the counties," he said. "I am not in a judicial or an investigative role here."

Then why have this job in the first place? Is it merely for show or should the SoS only certify after all challenges have been satisfied according to THE LAW.

I see a lot of this "recount until I win" BS coming to a state near you. Thanks, Al Gore!

[Pride in the USA]

This is such an outrage. It is time for those of us on the predominately Republican east side of Washington State to create our own state.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

For me...I'll be happy to risk the possibility of stepping into sour grapes for the certainty of standing up to and exposing outright Tammany Hall style fraud -- perpetuated by an entrenched power structure that is now working on its second full generation in total power.

Better to fight than disspiriting and depressing your Pubbie voters that are feeling their oats for maybe the first time ever in this state. Telling the Pubbie voters that you will pack it in at the first hint of real, nasty fight is no way to get them to ever believe that they can beat the RATS -- who will not quail at a fight no matter how nasty it becomes.

We've had more than enough of the Sam Reed mentality in this state -- and it's gotten the Pubbies nowhere.

[Carry_Okie]

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

Those quotes are great. Can you provide sources for them?

[RedEyeJack]

If this data is available to the Justice Department why don't they start an investigation. This was a federal election also and there is prima facie evidence of fraud in either the administration of the registration process or in the counting process... Investigation required... Truth determined and anyone guilty of violations should be charged.

I will suggest if this occurred in Mississippi and the result was a Republican victory the hue and cry by the MSM would be raising the roof...

[hosepipe]

[ Those quotes are great. Can you provide sources for them? ]

No.. but they are easily Googled..

[lonevoice]

It is time for those of us on the predominately Republican east side of Washington State to create our own state.

Do you think Idaho would have us? How obvious would election fraud have to get before Gregoire would agree to a revote and spare us having to go all the way to the Supreme Court for a fair election in Washington? If the GOP takes this to the mat, as I hope they will, all this litigation is going to be very expensive.

[lonevoice]

If this data is available to the Justice Department why don't they start an investigation. This was a federal election also and there is prima facie evidence of fraud in either the administration of the registration process or in the counting process... Investigation required

Good point!

[Libertina]

Well great, let's just ignore all this and coronate Governor (Seattle) Christine Gergoire-Gore. How disgusting. (But thanks for positng, 4Woodenboats. We are not blaming the messenger ;)

[Libertina]

Farnfriend, just keep us in your prayers. The people of WA have spoken, AND voted. We chose Dino Rossi. Now we intend to fight for him!

[Libertarianize the GOP]

It appears that I live in a State with a government run by a corrupt mob based in King County. The worst thing is to have to listen to the Mafia Queen Christine tell us mere pion Citizens how our election is a model for how democracy should work. Christine now has a couple of claims deserving of the title Mafia Queen, she managed to extort more money out of American Business in the tobacco suits than any mafia boss ever dreamed of and now she is stealing elections.

[JimRed]

(a) Illegal votes include but are not limited to the following:
(i) More than one vote cast by a single voter;

(ii) A vote cast by a person disqualified under Article VI, section 3 of the state Constitution.

(b) Illegal votes do not include votes cast by improperly registered voters who were not properly challenged under RCW 29A.08.810 and 29A.08.820.

No mention of the voter actually having to EXIST??!!

[freddiedavis]

democrats overstuffed the turkey...oops ballot box