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Science lacking in global warming theories
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Thursday, December 30, 2004 | H. Sterling Burnett

Posted on 12/30/2004 9:54:46 AM PST by Willie Green

DALLAS -- Global warming is hot! -- pun fully intended.

Within the space of a year, a blockbuster action movie and now a sure-to-be best-selling novel have both focused on the perils and political intrigues surrounding the question of whether, or to what extent, humans are causing the planet to overheat with all manner of apocalyptic results.

Though the Fox Studio disaster flick "The Day After Tomorrow" was panned by scientists who pointed out its portrayal of climate science was wildly inaccurate, it won praise from environmentalists and some politicos for "focusing attention on the important topic of human-caused global warming."

Of course, in the movie, global warming was a fact and environmentalists were world-saviors. By contrast, novelist Michael Crichton's latest book, "State of Fear," has raised the ire of environmentalists. Why has he not garnered the same praise for bringing global warming to the world's attention? Perhaps because Crichton portrays global warming as hoax and the environmentalist lobbyists pushing the hoax as villains, eager to use bad science to raise money and in order to attain political power.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: climatechange; enviralists; environment; envirosocialism; envirowhackos; globalwarminghoax; greenies; hollyweird; junkscience; politics; science; treehuggers
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1 posted on 12/30/2004 9:54:46 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Though the Fox Studio disaster flick "Indepence Day" was panned by scientists who pointed out its portrayal of alien life forms was wildly inaccurate, it won praise from Trekkies and some politicos for "focusing attention on the important topic of alien invasion and global conquest."


2 posted on 12/30/2004 9:57:52 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

You are kidding right?


3 posted on 12/30/2004 9:59:13 AM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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To: KJacob

YOU are kidding, right? ;)


4 posted on 12/30/2004 10:01:31 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Willie Green

"State of Fear" is an awesome book!


5 posted on 12/30/2004 10:01:49 AM PST by Kurt_D
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To: Willie Green

Bump for later read


6 posted on 12/30/2004 10:06:10 AM PST by ConservativeBamaFan
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To: Kurt_D
"State of Fear" is an awesome book!

I agree there. I read relatively little fiction and I started "State of Fear" last night and read 100 or so pages until 3:30 a.m.

7 posted on 12/30/2004 10:06:46 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Willie Green

I read the headline and at first thought they meant there were not enough globl warming theories - as in Theory #35 "It is caused by those Republicans driving SUVs" Theory #36 "It is caused by Haliburton pillaging the natural resources of Iraq". Theory #37 "....wait!...I can't think of anything....WE NEED MORE THEORIES!"


8 posted on 12/30/2004 10:09:11 AM PST by vabeachrepub
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To: Willie Green
Science lacking in global warming theories

No sh--, Dick Tracy.

Here's the real story: NEW FINDINGS SHOW ANTARCTIC COOLING AND ICE CAP EXPANSION AND SLOWER GROWTH OF GREENHOUSE GASES

9 posted on 12/30/2004 10:09:21 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Dave S
I bought it yesterday. Will start it tonight.

By the way, I was watching the Science Channel last night. They were having a panel discussion on the greatest discoveries of the last year. The panel consisted of science writers.

At one point they were breaking for commercial with the moderator stating that they were coming back to discuss the 'overwhelming' evidence for global warming.

It soon became clear that the 'overwhelming' evidence was taht they all agreed it was happening and had some story about it which was peppered with 'maybes' and 'could possibly be's'

10 posted on 12/30/2004 10:13:25 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: CaptRon
Which is exactly what Crichton refers to as 'consensus' versus scientific fact.

Kinda like reading the rants at DU.

11 posted on 12/30/2004 10:18:23 AM PST by kahoutek
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To: Willie Green
environmentalists are pushing the issue for fundraising purposes and to gain political power...

...and at the same time make it harder and harder to heed warnings when  real dangers come along.   Filing a false police report is a crime-- so is this.

12 posted on 12/30/2004 10:27:11 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Willie Green
They have plenty of theories (eg. The Hockey-Stick Curve) but no fact behind them. You can tell someone has truly jumped the shark when Michael Crichton writes a novel about how stupidly wrong they are.

If you have absolutely nothing else to do with your day, here's the hockey-stick curve having it's season ended, just like the NHL.
http://www.john-daly.com/hockey/hockey.htm
13 posted on 12/30/2004 10:30:44 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Thanks for the fantastic link!


14 posted on 12/30/2004 10:41:26 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

No problem. Like the guy says, Michael Mann's paper wasn't the real problem. It was the fact that the scientific community fell in love with it and turned off its vast fact-checking apparatus over it that was truly iniquitous.


15 posted on 12/30/2004 10:51:13 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: .cnI redruM

I also read that because of the normalization of the data (it's a statistical thing)some scientists discovered that numbers randomly chosen also produced a hockey stick. In other words, these people set out to produce this graph. They had an agenda.


16 posted on 12/30/2004 11:13:30 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: .cnI redruM

I also read that because of the normalization of the data (it's a statistical thing)some scientists discovered that numbers randomly chosen also produced a hockey stick. In other words, these people set out to produce this graph. They had an agenda.


17 posted on 12/30/2004 11:13:34 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03
I had heard the model was a 'swallower' or in layman's terms produced a similar result no matter what you seeded it with. I couldn't find an Internet extravaganza to back that one up with though.
18 posted on 12/30/2004 11:16:12 AM PST by .cnI redruM (This country's heart will be giving in any disaster regardless of the recipient's response.)
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To: farmfriend


19 posted on 12/30/2004 11:31:51 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Willie Green

This past fall, 5,400 delegates from 189 countries gathered in Buenos Aires for what’s called COP 10, the 10th annual conference of the parties to the United Nations agreement to combat climate change.

I have been attending these extravaganzas for five years now, and they are an exercise, in the grandly self-important style of the U.N., in wheel-spinning and America-bashing. But something is changing. While a superficial glance indicates the extremists are winning, they are, in fact, on the run. They’ve failed - largely because opponents like MIT climatologist Richard Lindzen, who has called warming theory a “religious belief” rather than sound science, haven’t been intimidated. Now, a consensus is building to tackle global warming the right away.

But don’t wait for the Greens to lead. Instead, responsible advocates are building a consensus around the right approach, which concentrates not on destroying the economies of developing countries through limits to growth, but on improving those economies through the use of more energy - the best leverage for boosting living standards. Wealth, after all, makes health. As a nation gets richer, it gets cleaner. - James K. Glassman


20 posted on 12/30/2004 12:08:06 PM PST by sergeantdave (Help save the environment. Mail your old tires and garbage to the local Sierra Club.)
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