TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO JANUARY 2005 Dailies: News Digest, Restating the Obvious & Thank Yous...

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I heard Bobby say last night that the Legislature meets in March. I immediately thought...what the ****!!! So can litigation drag this out through March, or do they need to convene right away specifically for this??

I haven't mentioned the putting in of a feeding tube so it can be used as an excuse to MURDER to any legislator. Terri was recovering and maybe imo, they needed to OBSTRUCT/PREVENT Terri's progress. In other words, she was made worse while they were readying their motions to Judge Greer to get that Final Judgment in Feb. 2000 that is still in effect that says basically, STARVE AND DEHYDRATE UNTIL DEAD. (remove the feeding tube).

Terri will die because of that, not because she is sick. THAT IS MURDER BY JUDGE, MURDER BY MEDICAID.

They can hold emergency sessions if they don't want the State to go into a state of chaos. I don't know many people over here who would want to be seated on any juries because there is no trust over here in the judicial system.

Watch for Terri supporters to conscientiously object to serving on a jury because a majority of the judges are either incompetent or on the take. Judges are not supposed to KILL WARDS.

WE HAVE A NEW RECORD: 15,103 views on the tote board for the Terri Schindler Schiavo January Daily Thread!

Thnnks for your concern, lurkers and freepers. PLEASE EMAIL GOVERNOR BUSH: jeb.bush@myflorida.com.

If you don't know what to say: TERRI HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE AND TO THE REHABILITATION THAT SHE WAS DENIED. WRITE A BETTER BILL THIS TIME, better than Terri's Law which is NULL & VOID.

Thanks, FV

I found a great piece re: The Sixth Circuit. I'll re-post same on Feb. thread because IT'S ABOUT JUDGE GREER VYING TO BE CHIEF JUDGE. It details how FAR AFIELD the 6th Circuit in Pinellas County really is.

http://tampaindymedia.org/bin/site/templates/default.asp?area_2=imc/open%20newswire/2005/Jan/34445.3671875.dat

Chief Judge is voted on by the Judges, not the citizenry.

Story above posted.

Posted: 1/6/2005 9:34:05 AM

Author: Wesley Fager

GREAT TITLE - CAN'T RECALL

Judge George W. Greer is challenging incumbent Chief Judge David A. Demers for top judge on Florida's Sixth Circuit. In 1992 St. Petersburg Times staff writer Jon East wrote an article about George Greer's first run for a circuit judgeship and titled it Electing judges is a farce. He noted that Greer's only credentials were his well-publicized name as a two-term county commissioner and his "healthy campaign bank account." George Greer had been a zoning lawyer before becoming a county commissioner and had raised his substantial war chest for that run from "developers, contractors, law firms and investment companies."

I do not believe Judge Greer is the best choice for chief judge. The election of the chief judge for the 6th Circuit is the most important selection of a chief judge in all the Florida circuits because of the plethora of bad national press that circuit has received of late. So before stating what's wrong with Judge Greer, I should first state what's wrong with the 6th Circuit.

The skinny on Florida's royal court. In 2002 the Columbia Law School released a study finding that the 6th Circuit leads the nation with an 89% error rate of death sentences. This means that Pinellas County Florida is more likely than any other county in the land to send an innocent man to death. Former 6th Circuit Chief Justice Susan Schaeffer was part of that court before she retired. She personally sentenced so many people to their death (8) that she is known as "Ms. Death." She even wrote a handbook on how to sentence people to death which is required reading for all circuit judges in the state.

In 2003 The Reader's Digest named Judge Charles W. Cope as one of the worst judges in the land after he tried to break into the motel room of a woman. Yet Chief Judge Schaeffer stood by him during his tribulations publicly declaring, "He has one of the best work ethics of all our circuit judges."

The 6th Circuit's current Chief Justice David A. Demers was another Cope enabler. In 2002 former Chief Judge David Patterson committed suicide. Two years ago attorney Leonard Englander convinced 6th Circuit Judge Walt Logan to issue a gag order to silence a man from sounding off about consumer issues with a major furniture company. USA Today did that story. Next year Englander got Judge Logan to sign a gag order to keep a man from sounding off about his client Ambassador Mel Sembler--parts of that story made it to the Washington Post. Later Logan, Englander, the CEO of the furniture company and the son of Mel Sembler served together on a social committee.

There's the misrepresentation by Circuit Judge John Renke III; the endorsement of the controversial Narconon™ program by some justices; and the partnership of the 6th Circuit and Operation PAR, PAR's ties to Betty Sembler, and Betty Sembler's and the 6th Circuit's ties to Straight and The Seed--two defunct juvenile drug rehab programs that closed under charges of child abuse.

Judge George Greer. With all the national attention on the 6th Circuit, the chief justice must be beyond reproach. And Judge Greer is not. By 1992 Pinellas County had 70,000 blacks but there had never been one black county commissioner. That year Sevell Brown of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference asked the U.S. Justice Department to challenge the county's system of at-large elections. One man who could help then was chief county commissioner George Greer who was also chairman of the county's Charter Commission.

In that capacity he could have worked to do away with the at-large system or even to increase the number of commissioners in order to make it easier for blacks to gain a seat. But he did absolutely nothing to help blacks gain a seat. In 2000 Chief Judge Susan Schaeffer lamented that her 6th Circuit had only two black judges. There is still a racial imbalance on the circuit. Thirty-nine percent of those on death row in Florida are black and George Greer is not the man to rectify these problems.

When he was a county commissioner George Greer met with the mayor and two commissioners from Largo, Florida to try to convince them to allow his clients to build more condominiums than codes allow on the golf course they owned. This was at a time when he was a county commissioner who acted on issues affecting Largo.

In 1990 Greer was publicly criticized for being one of four commissioners who took a boondoggle trip to the Cayman Islands ostensibly to look at the water desalinization plants there. The trip cost taxpayers over $4,000. And who can forget The Great Cooper's Point Land Scam when Michael Kenton, a Clearwater County employee, jointly purchased with the Sembler Company a swamp in Pinellas County for $ 1 million. Kenton became a consultant for Sembler and the team almost got away with selling the property overnight to Clearwater, with the help of Kenton's lobbying, for $2.65 million.

But the local press got whiff of the story. Sembler hired attorney Tim Johnson who was the campaign aid for and a good friend of county commissioner George Greer and a $1,000 donor to Greer's camapign. A majority of commissioners including Greer voted to help Clearwater buy the swamp for $ 1.95 million.

Wes Fager

Ed, www.theStraights.com

eMail: wes@wesfager.com

FLORIDUH VOTER SAYS: Mel Sembler is major GOP and that is why the Pinellas GOP Headquarters "hangs up" on republicans who just call to say that they support Governor Bush and Terri Schiavo's right to live and not be starved to death. SEMBLER WAS JUDGE GREER'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR COUNTY COMMISSION. Semblers donates a large space to the GOP every major election cycle. I've been in Sembler's donated space - impressive. When I say republican judges are the ones trying to kill Terri, it is absolutely true. Check out the 89% ERROR RATE.

The dummies who voted for Greer should have voted for JAN GOVAN. Terri would be better off today and so would we.

Govan has a web site with a thank you to freepers and others who delivered 60,000 votes to him. Not enough to combat all the election violations by Greer but 60,000 votes ain't hay. Unfortunately, we are STILL STUCK WITH GREER!

If Jan Govan ever runs again for Judge, please help us get him elected. He could start correcting the Sixth Circuit because he is FAIR, HONEST and INTELLIGENT.

Visit www.jangovan.com

EXCERPT. www.worldnetdaily.com by Barbara Simpson, Babe in the Bunker

...The case there is that of Terri Schiavo, who as I write, is still the center of a legal battle between the man she married, who wants her feeding tube pulled so she will die, and her parents, who want the husband to drop the case and/or divorce Terri so they can care for her for the rest of her life. He refuses.

The husband, Michael Schiavo, has had a live-in girlfriend for years by whom he has two children. In that light, he's hardly the grieving, heartbroken husband.

And indulge me please, this alert to ALL news organizations, including the networks: Stop describing Terri as being in an irreversible coma or a vegetative state. She is not. She is brain damaged and cannot speak or swallow, but she sleeps and wakes and is responsive to people and her surroundings.

Disabled people beware: The result of this horrific case will definitely affect your fate. It will set a precedent that will certainly end the lives of many helpless people who are deemed by lawyers, courts and others to have lives not worthy of living.

Who decides? Guess.

On the other side of the country, California is faced with dying dilemmas of its own, which ultimately center around the issues of living and dying and, as before, – who, when and how.

Southern California last week experienced a major train wreck – the worst in 50 years. Two commuter trains were involved. Eleven people were killed in the incident in Glendale, a suburb of Los Angeles, and nearly 200 people were injured. As I write, they're still digging through wreckage for other victims.

The man responsible is 25-year-old Juan Manuel Alvarez – he's in custody for medical evaluation and will be arraigned in February. It's expected he'll be charged with 11 counts of murder with special circumstances. He could face the death penalty.

In the event you're wondering, as am I – in all the news coverage, there is no mention of Alvarez' immigration status or whether he had a drivers license.

The news says Alvarez was trying to commit suicide, parked his Jeep Cherokee on the tracks, but at the last minute changed his mind. He got out in time, left the vehicle and derailed two trains. The state's Public Utilities Commission says California leads the country in train suicides – 120 in the last four years.

Too bad Alvarez wasn't in San Francisco ... he could have used the Golden Gate Bridge, and jumped.

I know! Los Angeles needs a new bridge – it would make it easier for those suicidally inclined and at least only one person would die – the one who wanted to.

Speaking of the Golden Gate Bridge and suicide, the City by the Bay is all in a snit over a film made by Eric Steel. He got permission to film the bridge, but it wasn't the structure he actually wanted pictures of – he filmed attempted and accomplished suicides from it.

From the uproar about it, you'd think he was pushing people off.

It's ignited a renewed battle for suicide barriers on the bridge, something that's been opposed before because it would ruin the esthetics. There are cameras, police patrols and phones, which, we're told, stopped 50 jumpers last year.

Near the bridge is San Quentin Prison where death-row prisoners are housed as well as lifers. Many are old, infirmed and some, reportedly, in comas. Talk is surfacing about the "problem" and, of course, the cost.

Not word, yet, on a final solution.

While all this goes on, two Democrat Assembly members, Patty Berg and Lloyd Levine introduced a bill in Sacramento, which, if passed, would legalize doctor-assisted suicide in California.

In real language, it means doctors would help people kill themselves or just kill people directly.

We are losing the distinction between allowing people to die and killing them, and we're doing it under the guise of "choice."

The pope has just issued another statement affirming the value of life at any stage and he steadfastly opposes euthanasia.

Whooooo! The wind blowing down that slippery slope is strong! Have we hit bottom yet?

URGENT!!! PLEASE ACT. PLEASE GET OTHERS TO ACT. PLEASE GET OTHERS TO GET OTHERS TO ACT. PLEASE CONTACT THE LEGISLATURE, ETC. SAVE TERRI NOW.

PLEASE SEE THE CONNECTIONS. See the CONFLICT of GOODMAN in this. He has an agenda to see Terri dead. 13 YEARS OF PERMENANT UNCONSCIOUSNESS???!!! I could have done more research but I simply don't have the time to put this all together for everyone. He is connected to Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc., Michael Masinter of Nova Law College (sic) in Miami- (of course they have connections to Stetson Law College where Felos hails from) and others, who no doubt have connections to Wolfson as well. They all have connections to the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. where Terri is being held hostage, being neglected, and under threat of being murdered by Hospice, etc. Please see what Johnny Byrd says.. WE need to hold the legislature to their word. They were supposed to revisit. WE MUST DEMAND THAT THEY DO REVISIT AND THAT THEY SAVE TERRI LIKE PROMISED. THIS TIME CONSTITUTIONALLY!!!

Google -> "Ken Goodman" "Terri Schiavo"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22ken+goodman%22+%22terri+schiavo%22

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Google -> "Ken Goodman" "Byrd" "pbs"

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:E-CHUPSA6mIJ:family-source.com/offsite/8657783/+%22ken+goodman%22+%22byrd%22+%22pbs%22&hl=en

October 22, 2003 -- Right to Die Florida Gov. Jeb Bush ordered a severely brain-damaged woman be placed back on life support, at the request of her parents, after the woman's husband won a court order to have his wife removed from life support six days ago. Speaker Johnnie Byrd of the Florida House of Representatives and Kenneth Goodman, director of the bioethics program at the University of Miami, discuss the unique circumstances of this case with Ray Suarez.

Google -> "pbs" "right to die" "goodman"

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:ECa1mmz7I9cJ:www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec03/lifesupport_10-22.html+%22pbs%22+%22right+to+die%22+%22goodman%22&hl=en

The decision of the legislature and the governor

RAY SUAREZ: For more on this controversial case, we're joined by speaker Johnnie Byrd of Florida's House of Representatives -- he is also a lawyer -- and Kenneth Goodman, the founder and director of the Bioethics Program at the University of Miami. Speaker Byrd, why did you and your legislative colleagues in both the Florida House and Senate intervene in this case?

Johnnie ByrdJOHNNIE BYRD: Well, something had gone terribly wrong with this process. The vast majority of the legislators in Florida and thousands of Florida citizens were -- completely lost confidence in this process that seemed to be replete with conflicts of interest between the husband and the best interest of this beautiful lady. So, we had to intervene to give a clear signal to the Florida courts what the legislative intent and the public policy of Florida would be in cases such as the Terri Schiavo case.

RAY SUAREZ: Professor Goodman, is there anything wrong with the legislature stepping in when it finds it can't abide a court decision, when it strenuously disagrees?

KENNETH GOODMAN: It's not merely a court decision but a series of decisions made by physicians and others over 13 years. It's been through the courts quite a bit. And it has been the topic of extensive debate during all that time. It seems to a lot of people -- and with all due respect to Representative Byrd -- I think a lot of Floridians are actually quite troubled that the idea that, in fact, this process might run its course naturally be intervened with at the last minute is actually troublesome.

We agree completely that this is a beautiful woman. She's undergone an extraordinary and difficult ordeal, but the right thing to do -- and I think the legislature while it may have believed that, was actually on the wrong side -- THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS AFTER 13 YEARS OF PERMANENT UNCONSCIOUSNESS THAT SHE BE ALLOWED TO DIE WITH DIGNITY. I think most Floridians would support that.

RAY SUAREZ: In your reading of the law, Professor, what should have happened in the years after Terri Schiavo first was diagnosed as having severe brain damage?

KENNETH GOODMAN: Well, in fact, what should have happened is I think what happened. Certainly nobody was in a hurry to deprive her of life support. It has been 13 years. A number of neurologists and others have examined her. Whenever you have a family dispute, though, this is something we try and teach our students everywhere, and I assume representative Byrd agrees, the idea that all of us should take away is make clear that your loved ones know what your wishes would be.

There's a dispute about whether or not her husband, who according to the law of Florida, would be her surrogate -- HAS SOME CONFLICT OR OTHER -- SOMETHING I'M NOT COMPETENT TO ADDRESS. Normally people want their spouses to make those decisions for them. In fact, a lot of people think that the parents of adult children actually don't make particularly good surrogates for a bunch of reasons.

End of life and legal guardianship

RAY SUAREZ: Well, what does the law say though? Has there ever been any challenge to Michael Schiavo's legal standing as his wife's guardian?

GoodmanKENNETH GOODMAN: Not as such, only the allegations against him in particular. The law puts after, for example, a court-appointed guardian, the spouse of someone who is unable to speak for him or herself as the primary proxy to make those kinds of decisions. That's true in Florida. It's true in many other states.

The problem, of course, is when you have a family dispute -- and of course everyone's heart goes out to the Schiavo family -- when you have a dispute like that, courts are sometimes clumsy mechanisms for resolving it. But the best process that anyone could think of went forward and did over the last several years.

RAY SUAREZ: Mr. Speaker, is the professor right when he says that this is sort of complicated by the fact that there was no written end of life directive, that there was no document codifying Terri Schiavo's end of life wishes?

JOHNNIE BYRD: Well, certainly, Floridians as well as Americans have the right of self-determination. Yes, if there had been a written declaration in this case, this case would not be here at all. The problem is, is a very cloudy section of law. The legislators, three out of four legislators, thought that the courts had gone off on a tangent. Above all, I don't think you can cast this as just an inter-family dispute. Here we have loving parents who want to take care of their daughter -- their only daughter. And if you look at these videos, I think you cannot characterize her as being in some sort of a coma. She responds to her parents.

The testimony I think in this case was is that she could have therapy and live a higher quality of life. And It's not for us to say whether her life was worth living. We just need to err on the side of life. And I believe now with this new law, we will have another guardian ad item appointed, someone who has no conflicts of interest, you know, there were monetary incentives, I understand that Mr. Schiavo has another lady that he lives with and maybe even a child or one or more children by this other person.

And so I think to say that Terri Schiavo would like for her husband to make a decision to have her die a terrible death now -- that assumes a whole lot that I don't think the people of Florida see, nor does the legislature. I think the bottom line is we're going to stop; we're going to make sure that she has a chance to live and that hopefully her parents, who love her very much, can take care of her. And I think that a new objective guardian would be a good first step.

The legislature's deliberations

RAY SUAREZ: But in debating this bill, in writing it down and getting it through the House and Senate, were expert witnesses called to explain Terry Schiavo's brain scans, people testify on her condition, that kind of thing -- because you've expressed your impressions of the videotapes that the family has distributed.

ByrdJOHNNIE BYRD: I think that's the whole point is that, you know, the more facts that come out of this case, each fact, each excruciating fact that came from this case led to a conviction by both legislators and lay people and citizens in Florida that something terribly had gone terribly wrong with this case, that there was a lawsuit in which the husband promised that he would take care of her for the rest of her life if only he could recover these dollars.

Then, you know, after the dollars had been recovered, all of a sudden he's saying that she wanted to die. And I think that, you know, there's something to this case that is disturbing to most people as these facts came out. I think that the only thing we could do is make a decision to respect life. You know, we're talking about a human life. We don't have any second chances on this case. And slow this thing down and let's let another guardian take a look. And I think that we did the right thing. We protected life in this case.

RAY SUAREZ: But it wasn't for the legislature a medical decision, was it?

JOHNNIE BYRD: No. The legislators make public policy. I think, you know, if the step back away from this case, you know, we have three branches of government. I'll say that the legislatures have maybe, you know, delegated their authority too much to the court system. We've relied too much on the judicial system to make public policy when, in fact, the judiciary is very good at resolving disputes but very poor at making public policy.

So in this case I think some in the judiciary, some officers of the court, lawyers, have been somewhat -- had maybe apoplexy over the fact that the legislature actually stepped in and said wait a minute, the public, what we meant when we passed this statute was this and that the public policy of Florida should be in cases like Terri Schiavo, that she does have the right to life and a right to a quality of life. It is not for us to judge the quality of that life. It is for us to protect that life. And so I think what you've had is a very clear signal from the legislature as to what our legislative intent was when we passed this law.

The issue of feeding and hydration

RAY SUAREZ: Professor, you've heard the speaker refer to weaknesses in the system as it existed in adjudicating these cases. Are these matters, like for instance, his objections to the way the courts have acted in this 13-year saga a call to Florida to sort of address these so that every time there's a right to die case, it doesn't end up in the governor's lap?

GoodmanKENNETH GOODMAN: Well, the question of where right to die cases should end up is itself quite an interesting one. I actually agree with Speaker Byrd that the legislature thought it was doing the right thing. Unfortunately, I think the legislature was mistaken for a number of reasons. And it's going to produce some very interesting constitutional questions that legal scholars will need to sort out. One thing that needs clarification in boldface is that the withdrawal of artificial hydration and nutrition does not produce a terrible death.

If that were the case, then Florida law and the law of 49 other states would not permit it. In fact, it's done all the time at hospitals around the country and it can be done with dignity and it can be done in a way that shows as much respect for life as anything that we can imagine. Surely no one can say that after 13 years that we've been hasty in these sorts of decisions.

In fact, a lot of reasonable people in cases where there's confusion I think would say -- this is what I hear from ordinary Floridians I speak to -- "for heaven's sakes we're really concerned about this. We want to make sure that this is not a debate about partisans trying to hustle the legislature. But now I'm worried. I mean, is there something I need to worry about -- about the refusal of hydration and nutrition?"

The answer is absolutely not. Once again there's obviously conflicting testimony in any kind of court case. But the courts ruled that the evidence before them from neurologists and other experts was that poor Terri is in a persistent vegetative state. What that means is she's not having any conscious actions or thoughts or anything else. She's not seeing. She's not hearing. And she's not feeling. Respect for life is something precious. And we all do agree that it's important for courts and legislatures to protect it.

On the other hand, the right of people to say no to burdensome treatment has also been protected heretofore by Florida statute. The concern here is a dispute about, one, whether or not the diagnosis is accurate and, two, whether or not the husband is a good surrogate or not. But as I say, I think most reasonable people, a direction by the way the Florida statute takes elsewhere, would say that after 13 years of unconsciousness with the best experts saying there's no alternative, surely morality makes room for that kind of treatment to be removed. That's what the law says. That's what ethics says, and, by the way, it's what most of our major faith traditions say.

RAY SUAREZ: Professor, Speaker Byrd, thank you both.

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http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/stewart/03/will.html

Indeed, Terri is teaching us a lot. But is the living will what we really need to learn? Is "put it in writing" really the moral of Terri’s story?

Many attorneys and bioethicists think so. "If you don’t want your loved ones fighting at your deathbed, make sure they all know what you want and what you don’t want," says Ken Goodman, director of the University of Miami ethics program.

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The legal battle is being closely followed nationwide by partisans on both sides of the right-to-die issue. Kenneth Goodman, who heads the University of Miami's bioethics program, called Thursday's ruling ``an antidote to legislative civil disobedience.''

''Nobody who knows how law is supposed to work in a free and open society is surprised by this'' decision, Goodman said.

Goodman, who has followed the case closely and offers historical information on the case at the ethics' program's website, calls Terri's Law ``one of the darkest days of the Florida Legislature.''

Goodman said that lawmakers cynically injected themselves into a family's tragedy in order to score votes with a well-organized movement.

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Google -> "ken goodman" "terri schiavo" "brain"

http://www.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/Schiavo_links.htm

CT scan of Ms. Schiavo's brain, showing extensive cortical regions filled with spinal fluid.

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Making Choices - Beginning to Plan for End-of-Life Care sponsored by the Florida Department of Elder Affairs in collaboration with the FLORIDA PARTNERSHIP FOR END-OF-LIFE CARE

Terry White, Secretary of Florida Department of Elder Affairs

Jeb Bush, Governor

June 2002

Message from Jeb Bush

Floridians are living longer today than at any point in our history. And thanks to advances in technology, we are living a better quality of life. With these advances often come difficult decisions about end-of-life care, and the effect it will have on our families and loved ones. By talking with family members and planning for our care, we can ease the burden of making some of life's most difficult decisions. Florida is taking the lead in helping caregivers and individuals prepare for these challenging choices. In an effort to continue helping our most vulnerable citizens, I encourage all Floridians to begin dicussing end-of-life care with your family and loved ones.

Acknowledgements - These articles first appeared in the Elder Update, a publication of the Florida Department of Elder Affairs from April 2001 to April 2002. The original articles have been edited for this volume. The series of 13-articles were developed by the Department of Elder Affairs in collaboration with the Florida Partnership for End-of-Life Care, a community and state partnership partially funded by a grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

Special acknowledgement is given to the members of Florida Partnership who authored these articles

* Florida Hospices and Palliative Care, Inc.

* Florida Department of Health

* University of Florida, Program of Law, Ethics, and Medical Professionalism

* University of Miami, Ethics Program (Goodman)

* Florida Bioethics Network

Statewide Network of 23 Community Coalitions

The members of the Florida Partnership would like to acknowledge the encouragement and support of numerous individuals including State Senator Ron Klein from Boca Raton, Florida.

If you have any questions about the information provided or would like to contribute, call the Department of Elder Affairs at 1-850-414-2000 or the Florida Partnership office at 1-850-878-2632

(see above and below - Goodman is a founding member of Florida Partnership for End-of-Life Care and Director of University of Miami Ethics Program)

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:HS6OL3ccBlkJ:elderaffairs.state.fl.us/doea/english/LMD/EOL/EOL.pdf+%22ken+goodman%22+%22terri+schiavo%22&hl=en

Has a piece in this document:

The Moral and Legal Equivalency Between Withholding and Withdrawing of Treatment - Kenneth W. Goodman, Ph.D. - Highlighted" "Rights are slippery things".

Florida Partnership for End-Of-Life Care Advisory Committee (Founding Members) - Ken Goodman, Ph.D., Director University of Miami Ethics Program
Phone (305) 243-5723

Hospice of the Florida Suncoast (where Terri is being held hostage by those trying to murder her):

Communicating End-of-Life Choices to Family and Loved Ones: Isn't It Time We Talk About It? - Kathy Brandt, MS, and Karen Lo. M.S., R.N. - The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, in partnership with many local organizations, participated in a statewide effort in 2000, to encourage everyone to discuss advance care planning and communicate wishes to friends and families through conversations, and by completing advance directives. The "Isn't It Time We Talk About It?" campaign focusses on the importance of these discussions.

Kathy Brandt, M.S., Director of The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast Rallying Points Regional Resources Center, an initiative of The Robert Wood Johnson Foundations Last Acts Campaign. She serves on the board of the Florida Counsel on Aging and is an active member of Florida Hospices and Palliative Care, Inc.

Karen Lo, M.S., B.A., R.N., Curriculum specialist, trainer and consultant at The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast and with K-Lo Training & Associates, Inc.

Please ping your lists and have others ping theirs who care about stopping a cold-blooded murder:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310171/posts?page=2050#2050

WHAT TALKING POINTS? I can see that Ken Goodman is deep into the hospice culture of not only letting terminally ill patients die but in the hospice culture of STARVING PEOPLE TO DEATH.

I would be saying that the Florida House and Florida Senate are being lobbied by Ken Goodman of U of M with ties to Hospice who will likely be ENRICHED should Terri be killed? You would like to me to ask the Fla House & Senate to DISBELIEVE KEN GOODMAN because he's a death profiteer like Felos? I just need a "yes" send this or "no", I have it all wrong. Thanks FV

Interesting info at post 2,050.
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

I GET IT. ELDER AFFAIRS COLLABORATED WITH PARTNERSHIP (the gentle name for the euthanazi's) to create a handbook or guidelines??? Is that it?

Grant by Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Need to look into the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

MAYBE THE DECK IS STACKED AGAINST TERRI AND FUTURE TERRI's. Who likes to do research??? ROBERT WOOD JOHNSON FOUNDATION. Thanks in advance. I need to go do laundry. Be back later. I'm ignoring my real life again. lol

Please see my subsequent posts to 2050. There appears to be collaboration between the agency that is supposed to protect Terri and the right to die movement.

Florida is a quagmire.

University of Miami (sorry football fans) is harboring some major euthanazi's imo. See above posts. Now I must do laundry...FV

http://www.rwjf.org/programs/infoByArea.jsp;jsessionid=B2Sl5gFUg22hNoNhuxqpGE0JvDjpJmzwFbE5KZ9L3mtfTSsBXihe!1491292772?value=End-of-Life+Care&id=000006
links to the following topics ROBERT WOODS JOHNSON SITE

Disparities at the End of Life

African Americans have unequal access to health care compared to whites in all areas, studies show. Perhaps not surprisingly, these well-documented disparities persist through the end of life. An RWJF expert panel discussion explores the issue. More>

* Webcast

News Releases
Notices providing timely information about Foundation activities.

* First State-By-State 'Report Card' on Care for the Dying Finds Mediocre Care Nationwide

* Health Care Disparities Include Care For Terminal Illness

* Thirteen Communities ReceiveGrants to Improve Local Services for Older Adults

Research
The latest RWJF-funded research in this program area.

* Learning Pain Assessment and Management
A Goal of the End-of-Life Nursing Education Consortium

* End-of-Life Education Using the Dramatic Arts:
The Wit Educational Initiative

* Out-of-Hospital Death
Advance Care Planning, Decedent Symptoms, and Caregiver Burden

Publications
Documents and publications produced by the Foundation and its grantees, including articles from the Foundation's newsletter and Annual Report.

* 1997 Annual Report

Bump!

There is an article in Philadelphia Inquirer by
John Grogan | Just what life is being prolonged?

....... For Terri Schiavo, there are no happy endings, only degrees of sadness. Her once-bright life has come down to two heartbreakingly bleak choices: to live, if you can call it that, ...

I can't get the page to open for me. ???