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Same-Sex Marriage - A Threat To Whom?
12-23-04 | Ernie1241

Posted on 12/23/2004 7:40:45 AM PST by Ernie.cal

I have read many messages which object to same-sex marriage but I am still waiting to learn what specific adverse consequences opponents of gay marriage anticipate to result from its legalization.

In other words, suppose same-sex marriage becomes law during 2005. By 2010 or 2015 what specific indisputable adverse consequences to society do opponents predict to occur?

With respect to those critics of same-sex marriage who refer to "God's law" and "procreation" --- do they believe that heterosexual couples who cannot have children, or who do not wish to have children, should also NOT be allowed to marry?

The essence of a free society is choice---including the option of choosing private behavior that does not cause harm to another person. The alternative is coercion, i.e. using the coercive (and punitive) power of government through laws, bureaucrats, and police to dictate what choices are permissible.

Do opponents of same-sex marriage propose that our society should begin identifying areas where choices involving human intimacy should be regulated by government entities and thus dilute our commitment to the values inherent in a free society?


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To: little jeremiah
Sigh. Talk about misrepresentation AND missing the point!
681 posted on 01/14/2005 11:30:34 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Ernie.cal

Homosexual acts are by nature perverted. Anyone who advocates normalizing and promoting such perverted acts, especially to children and teenagers, is promoting evil. Some things are good, some are bad. Objective reality exists. Your opinion is wrong. Mine is right. If you don't like the word perverted, then stop promoting perversion, and you won't have to be bothered by the word anymore because it will no longer apply to you.


682 posted on 01/14/2005 2:52:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: scripter

It actually didn't go over his head, it hit him in the center of the forehead but due to psychosis he didn't notice.


683 posted on 01/14/2005 2:53:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: Ernie.cal

"It is easier (and more productive) to characterize an entire class of total strangers as depraved, sexual deviants who engage in and celebrate perversion."

Well, an entire class of people whose sole commanlity is the practice and "celebration" of sexual perversion bring on the characterization all by themselves. They don't need any outside help from anyone else.

Oh, I guess you can't respond with any greased pig verbiage any more. Too bad.


684 posted on 01/14/2005 10:17:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: little jeremiah
Whenever I said something to Ernie.cal, I would always preface it with: apparently or it appears..., as I tried, no matter how hard he would try to change the subject, to give him a chance to clear anything up. He never did and just added more ambiguity.
685 posted on 01/14/2005 10:18:28 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah
Just clearing up the issues.

What really bothered me was his incessant lying. Such as the following in regards to the APA and Paul Cameron:

Which you did not dispute!

But I did dispute just that in post 482. And then I said:

In summary, everything you've posted stems from a politically motivated attack from politically correct professional organizations. This is a family friendly website that pushes conservatism, not lies.

Of course the context demonstrates I was referring to the lies stemming from that discredited Pietryzk, yet he twisted it, trying to say I called him a liar. I often got the feeling I was discussing the issues with more than one person.

Just when you thought he had been shown for the disruptor that he was, he would start to rehash everything all over again as if no previous discussion on the issue had taken place. Disruptor, indeed.

686 posted on 01/14/2005 10:33:34 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah
"Perversion" doesn't exist in a vacuum. The PERSON engages in the BEHAVIOR. It is the PERSON that upsets you---because he or she engages in the behavior. .

Apparently Ernie.cal can't separate the person from the behavior. And it's the behavior that upsets me, if I may - not the person.

687 posted on 01/14/2005 10:38:23 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

One of the truths that homosexual promoters refuse to see or discuss is the basic fact that behavior ALONE is what distinguishes "gays" from non-"gays". And that behavior can, and often is, changed. Rejected. Done no more.

Just as I used to "be" an alcoholic, a drug user, a fornicator, even a thief. But no more. Was I those because I was born that way? Should I still call myself one of those even though I haven't engaged in those behaviors for more than three (well, one of them is two) decades?

They want to make behavior - which is voluntarily engaged in, and can change, into an unchangeable identity. It will not work, as it is a lie.

And your tagline says why.


688 posted on 01/14/2005 10:46:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: Ernie.cal

All this time and hundreds of posts later, you still refuse to address my question. You must address the question, otherwise you can bellow all you want to - you have no case. The reason you refuse to answer the question is because you cannot, and so you choose to instead pretend I didn't ask it - because you know it shows how implausible your whole argument is.


689 posted on 01/14/2005 10:52:58 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: scripter; little jeremiah

Actually that loud sound must have been a thunderbolt - he has been ZOTTED. I guess he made a comment way over the top on another thread or something.


690 posted on 01/14/2005 10:57:07 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

I don't think he'll be responding - he's been banned.


691 posted on 01/14/2005 10:57:35 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I think it was because of this thread.


692 posted on 01/14/2005 10:57:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: Republican Wildcat
I think it's or something. :-)
693 posted on 01/14/2005 11:00:09 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah
I think it was because of this thread.

I was going to post a link to all his recently threads, but you can't do that once somebody is banned. The last time I checked (earlier today), he was only posting on this thread since he originally posted it on 12/23/2004.

694 posted on 01/14/2005 11:03:11 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah

It's getting late - it's Friday and it's been a very long week. Catch you later.


695 posted on 01/14/2005 11:04:58 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah; MeekOneGOP

Well, in any event, Meek summoned the kitties here weeks ago, and now it is time for his certificate. :-)


696 posted on 01/14/2005 11:18:59 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: scripter

Definitely trollish behavior, then.


697 posted on 01/14/2005 11:20:21 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ernie.cal

How about saying, " I am still waiting to learn what specific adverse consequences proponents of gay marriage anticipate to result from its NOT BEING legalized. "


698 posted on 01/14/2005 11:58:25 PM PST by shellshocked
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To: Republican Wildcat; Ernie.cal; little jeremiah
Well, in any event, Meek summoned the kitties here weeks ago,
and now it is time for his certificate. :-)

Bye, Ernie.cal!

He's dead, Jim!

He's dead, Jim.
(Click here or on the pic).



699 posted on 01/15/2005 3:35:08 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: scripter; little jeremiah; Republican Wildcat

"I was going to post a link to all his recently threads,
but you can't do that once somebody is banned. The last
time I checked (earlier today), he was only posting on
this thread since he originally posted it on 12/23/2004."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?name=Ernie.cal

There are his "In Forum" comments, if you want to check
it out.

It looks like his last comment on another thread was on
January 5th.

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On Bloggers & Personal 01/05/2005 11:39:02 PM CST · 23 of 23


700 posted on 01/15/2005 3:42:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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