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Exploding the Self-Esteem Myth
Scientific American On-Line ^ | January 2005 | Roy F. Baumeister, Jennifer D. Campbell, Joachim I. Krueger and Kathleen D. Vohs

Posted on 12/21/2004 3:08:58 PM PST by shrinkermd

SUMMARY: Boosting people's sense of self-worth has become a national preoccupation. Yet surprisingly, researchshows that such efforts are of little value in fostering academic progress or preventing undesirable behavior.

People intuitively recognize the importance of self-esteem to their psychological health, so it isn't particularly remarkable that most of us try to protect and enhance it in ourselves whenever possible. What is remarkable is that attention to self-esteem has become a communal concern, at least for Americans, who see a favorable opinion of oneself as the central psychological source from which all manner of positive outcomes spring.

The corollary, that low self-esteem lies at the root of individual and thus societal problems and dysfunctions, has sustained an ambitious social agenda for decades. Indeed, campaigns to raise people's sense of self-worth abound.

Consider what transpired in California in the late 1980s. Prodded by State Assemblyman John Vasconcellos, Governor George Deukmejian set up a task force on self-esteem and personal and social responsibility. Vasconcellos argued that raising self-esteem in young people would reduce crime, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, school underachievement and pollution. At one point, he even expressed the hope that these efforts would one day help balance the state budget, a prospect predicated on the observation that people with high self-regard earn more than others and thus pay more in taxes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: bunk; education; esteem; mentalhealth; myth; psychology; science; self; selfesteem
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FYI. It is quite easy to put the cart before the horse but it does not work as well.
1 posted on 12/21/2004 3:08:58 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

The prisons are filled with men with "high self esteem."


2 posted on 12/21/2004 3:10:01 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: shrinkermd
Well, this makes me feel better about lack of self-esteem.
3 posted on 12/21/2004 3:10:15 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: shrinkermd

People who are busy accomplishing something don't have time to worry about their self-esteem.


4 posted on 12/21/2004 3:13:52 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: Clemenza

Paging Dr. James Dobson....


5 posted on 12/21/2004 3:15:30 PM PST by fishtank
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To: dirtboy

You said it right, my friend.


6 posted on 12/21/2004 3:17:34 PM PST by Rightone
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To: shrinkermd

They should have focused more on teaching childern personal responsibility instead of try to boost self esteem at any cost...

A little personal responsibility goes a long way.


7 posted on 12/21/2004 3:17:55 PM PST by Americanwolf (Diehard Packers Fan...Cheap hit on Ferguson 12.19.04 by Donvan Darius... No Christmas card for him!)
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To: shrinkermd
But what about EST? :-)
8 posted on 12/21/2004 3:21:06 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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To: shrinkermd
Self esteem comes from accomplishments. It starts in the home, from the parents.

Duh.

9 posted on 12/21/2004 3:23:14 PM PST by starfish923
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To: Clemenza
The prisons are filled with men with "high self esteem."

I beg to differ on this one. Most of the men I ever met in prison had a low opinion of themselves. Over half of them spent their days sleeping when not tending to whatever their work assignment was. The worst of the lot were the "model" inmates. It was my experience that recitivism was higher with the model inmates than it is with the smartass, refuse to be broken inmates. I was one of the latter. I refused to do one single thing expected of me and in my mind I looked at my final release date. The day THEY HAD TO LET ME GO , and never expected one day less. The inmates with a higher self worth always do better when released, regardless of their behavior while incarcerated.
10 posted on 12/21/2004 3:23:16 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: shrinkermd
I believe self-esteem stems from the ego whereas self-realization stems from connection to the divine...

Big Difference IMHO....

11 posted on 12/21/2004 3:24:21 PM PST by BossLady (A friend is one who has the same enemies as you have -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Clemenza
The prisons are filled with men with "high self esteem."

From the article: "For decades, psychologists believed that low self-esteem was an important cause of aggression. One of us (Baumeister) challenged that notion in 1996, when he reviewed assorted studies and concluded that perpetrators of aggression generally hold favorable and perhaps even inflated views of themselves."

12 posted on 12/21/2004 3:25:41 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: speed_addiction
The thugged-out kids in NYC, many of whom eventually go on to the State License Plate Factory in Ossining or Attica, exhibit considerable self-esteem in their early years. I guess a few years in the clink causes some of them to realize what pieces of sh-t many of them actually are.

A corrections officer once told me the same thing about "model prisoners."

Of course, the people with the lowest self-esteem tend to be junkies, dusters, and meth heads.

I think the main point is that self-esteem is something EARNED through hard work and good work, not "given" to us by limp-wristed teachers and counselors.

13 posted on 12/21/2004 3:28:19 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: shrinkermd

Self esteem always fails because no one can do well all the time.

Self acceptance is a more correct approach. The question changes from 'how am I doing?' to 'what am I doing and how can I perform better?'


14 posted on 12/21/2004 3:29:56 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (We in the right are on the right.)
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To: shrinkermd
But imagine if a heightened sense of self-worth prompted some people to demand preferential treatment or to exploit their fellows.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that gives rise to monarchies, tyrants, and liberalism.

15 posted on 12/21/2004 3:31:41 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: shrinkermd
Gauging the value of self-esteem requires, first of all, a sensible way to measure it. Most investigators just ask people what they think of themselves.

My version of self-esteem: I hate myself a little less than I hate everyone else.

It works for me....

16 posted on 12/21/2004 3:34:18 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: starfish923
Self esteem comes from accomplishments.

Ten years ago, I edited a book by psychologist (and former Ayn Rand lover) Nathaniel Branden, who is considered the "father of the self-esteem movement." And he said exactly what you said, self-esteem comes from accomplishments. Too bad the idiots who promulgated self-esteem in classrooms forgot to include that part and made it smarmy, feel-good idiocy instead.

The worst example I ever came upon was in an interview after the Los Angeles riots with a punk caught bashing innocent bystanders over the head with bricks. "Don't matter what I do, I'm a good person." Obviously that criminal was a product of feel-good self-esteem training in CA public schools. Today, there are millions of them out there, bricks in hand, waiting to demonstrate their high regard for themselves at the slightest provocation.

17 posted on 12/21/2004 3:36:23 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
Your method isn't bad.

Mine involves declaring myself the only true conservative while labelling everyone else as a communist, a RINO or a right-wing nutbar.

18 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:04 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: shrinkermd

bump for later reading


19 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:07 PM PST by CincinnatiKid
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To: shrinkermd

Teachers generally should supply encouragement. They need not worry about self-esteem. Self-esteem, by definition, is self generated. Furthermore, the whole doctrine of happiness as static dimension is a bunch of horsepuckey.


20 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:24 PM PST by JmyBryan
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