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FYI. It is quite easy to put the cart before the horse but it does not work as well.
1 posted on 12/21/2004 3:08:58 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

The prisons are filled with men with "high self esteem."


2 posted on 12/21/2004 3:10:01 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: shrinkermd
Well, this makes me feel better about lack of self-esteem.
3 posted on 12/21/2004 3:10:15 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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People who are busy accomplishing something don't have time to worry about their self-esteem.


4 posted on 12/21/2004 3:13:52 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: shrinkermd

They should have focused more on teaching childern personal responsibility instead of try to boost self esteem at any cost...

A little personal responsibility goes a long way.


7 posted on 12/21/2004 3:17:55 PM PST by Americanwolf (Diehard Packers Fan...Cheap hit on Ferguson 12.19.04 by Donvan Darius... No Christmas card for him!)
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To: shrinkermd
But what about EST? :-)
8 posted on 12/21/2004 3:21:06 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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Self esteem comes from accomplishments. It starts in the home, from the parents.

Duh.

9 posted on 12/21/2004 3:23:14 PM PST by starfish923
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To: shrinkermd
I believe self-esteem stems from the ego whereas self-realization stems from connection to the divine...

Big Difference IMHO....

11 posted on 12/21/2004 3:24:21 PM PST by BossLady (A friend is one who has the same enemies as you have -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: shrinkermd

Self esteem always fails because no one can do well all the time.

Self acceptance is a more correct approach. The question changes from 'how am I doing?' to 'what am I doing and how can I perform better?'


14 posted on 12/21/2004 3:29:56 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (We in the right are on the right.)
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But imagine if a heightened sense of self-worth prompted some people to demand preferential treatment or to exploit their fellows.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that gives rise to monarchies, tyrants, and liberalism.

15 posted on 12/21/2004 3:31:41 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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Gauging the value of self-esteem requires, first of all, a sensible way to measure it. Most investigators just ask people what they think of themselves.

My version of self-esteem: I hate myself a little less than I hate everyone else.

It works for me....

16 posted on 12/21/2004 3:34:18 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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bump for later reading


19 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:07 PM PST by CincinnatiKid
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Teachers generally should supply encouragement. They need not worry about self-esteem. Self-esteem, by definition, is self generated. Furthermore, the whole doctrine of happiness as static dimension is a bunch of horsepuckey.


20 posted on 12/21/2004 3:37:24 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: shrinkermd
"The War Against Boys"
by Christina Hoff Somers

An excellent read that completely debunks not only the self-esteem cult, but also the feminazi claim that girls are being left behind. The truth is that boys are falling dangerously behind in large part because of the anti-male cult.
24 posted on 12/21/2004 3:44:07 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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bttt

read later


25 posted on 12/21/2004 3:44:53 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Some findings even suggest that artificially boosting self-esteem may lower subsequent performance.

Bingo! The key word: artificially.

28 posted on 12/21/2004 3:56:22 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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I believe in self-respect, the kind that must be earned by conducting oneself in a way that benefits society, not detracts from it.


30 posted on 12/21/2004 4:01:38 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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Myth. Haw.

Somethings you have to dissect to find the flaw. Somethings you have peel off a couple layers before the BS becomes apparent. But somethings, as soon as you hear them, sheer commonsense reflex brings laughter to the lips and a clod in the hand to heave at the speaker.

35 posted on 12/21/2004 4:36:39 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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Self-esteem is useless.

Self-respect is priceless.

37 posted on 12/21/2004 4:54:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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In Orthodox Christianity, self-esteem is one of the Eight Grevious Vices cataloged by St. John Cassian in a
work under that title which is included in the first volume of The Philokalia. (The other seven are familiar to Western Christians under the name 'Seven Deadly Sins'.)

The vice of self-esteem tends to make one mired in it uneducable (particularly in spiritual matters, but in my experience in academic matters as well).


39 posted on 12/21/2004 6:10:46 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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Trying to right inappropriate behavior or improve academic achievement by raising self-esteem is like trying to cause the sun to rise by increasing the heat and light in the room.
43 posted on 12/21/2004 6:42:13 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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