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Dick Morris: Rice only one who can beat Hillary
FOX - Dick Morris
Posted on 12/09/2004 5:38:16 PM PST by SussexCountyDE
Dick Morris just predicted on Fox that the Dem '08 nominee is Hillary in a walk off. Says only R who can both get nominated (sorry Rudy)and elected is Condi Rice.
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To: uncbob
Dick Morris gets it right by taking every side of the issue. If he had been a ouija board, it would have looked like a clock swinging back and forth between "yes" and "no" on every question.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:09:58 PM PST
by
MHT
To: DaveDCMetro
Regionally Rudy would play well in places like MI and PA I don't know how Rudy would play here. A lot of the ethnic Catholics here (myself included) are pro-Life and pro-2a which goes against Rudy. The Catholic life advocates are usually the most hardline against pro-abort Catholics. I don't think my mom will vote for Rudy under any circumstance because of the life issue alone. My dad's vote is easier for Rudy to get, but that's not a given either as he is also pro-life.
On the same note, Rudy's tough, and that is very popular here among much of the same crowd. John Engler's slogan was "Tough enough to bring Michigan back". If he wants to win here, he has to be very careful with the social conservatives here, and go hard-right with a populist streak on economic issues to gain some of those votes. Economic issues killed Bush here, along with the black turnout.
And I don't think Michigan blacks will warm to Rudy very much. I expect Amadou Diallo (shot at 40 times) to be rammed down the throats of voters in Detroit, Flint, and Saginaw to the same effect James Byrd was for Bush in 2000.
There are more social conservatives than economic conservative here, but both have to be staunchly united for a Republican to win here because of Detroit. Can Rudy do it? I don't believe so.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:11:41 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
To: HitmanNY
"I don't think Jeb will get anywhere near the nomination, let alone winning. A shame, since he is a good guy. But too many Bushes weirds people out (I know it weirds me out!)"I understand that, back to back brothers as presidents creeps me out a little too. How ever, if the Bush II term is a success he could beat hillary. If nothing else, he would be a lock for the senate against Nelson in '06.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:12:24 PM PST
by
KoRn
To: California Patriot
I guess we'll just disagree then. I don't think America will elect a previously divisive and immensely polarizing woman as its first President. I'm not sure which Red State she could carry to change that outcome.
I'm one of the minority here who hopes she does run.
To: SussexCountyDE; Liz
Here's my take.....Hillary should have more on her mind than 2008.
Step 1 - She needs to win re-election as senator in 2006 - and that could be a tall order if Rudy runs against her. This is where Giuliani can hurt Hillary the most and help the Republicans the most.......very high profile campaign, very expensive and, most importantly, her positions would become more evident to the electorate.
Step 2 - Along about the time of the 2006 election, Vice President Cheney steps down for a "u-pick-it" reason. Condi is chosen as VP. This does 2 things.....it will lessen the last two years as a lame duck status for GWB (Somebody has to be a threat to exact favors or "pounds of flesh" in Congress. It couldn't be Cheney since we know he won't run.). And, it gives Condi enough time to establish bona fides as a presidential candidate in 2008. So..........
If Hillary loses in 2006, she will be greatly diminished as a candidate. If she holds on to her senate seat, she will be tarnished and Condi will thump her badly. Finally......
Watch out for Bill Richardson or Evan Bayh....one of these gentlemen have every bit as good of a chance of being the dems nominee in 2008 as Hillary.
Just my take......
Lando
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:13:55 PM PST
by
Lando Lincoln
(GWB - history will be very kind to you.)
To: DaveDCMetro
BTW - Rudy has a better shot against Hillary than Bill Richardson.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:14:20 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
To: SussexCountyDE
I love Condi, but Morris is full of crap. Hillary can't win. Remember the polls during the primaries, when there was speculation that Hillary would run? Her numbers were dismal.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:14:23 PM PST
by
bdeaner
To: SussexCountyDE
Morris the moron!
Hillary couldn't get elected if she was the only candidate. her negatives have never fallen below 60%. Kwese Mfume could beat her.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:14:33 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
To: DTogo
That thing on the side of McCain's head.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:18:37 PM PST
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: Dan from Michigan
Totally agree with your characterization of the state. Populist Republicans work well up there. I think McCain would have taken that state pretty easily. I always wondered if GWB was just too southern for some MI voters. Rudy would definitely have to make peace with social conservatives if he were to even get the nomination, let alone start worrying about which states he can win.
To: Lando Lincoln
Hillary knows the political landscape has changed dramatically.
The political ground under her prez ambitions has shifted, and she is on very shaky ground.
I, for one, am not worried about any Dem candidate they would dig up. Losers, losers, losers.
Condi would have to establish some very serious conservative credentials ....as far as we know, she is not pro-life....and that is a must for a Republican candidate. She is out of the running is she so much as hints that abortion might be somebody's (gag) right.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:22:00 PM PST
by
Liz
To: MHT
Furthermore, there are a million feet of film showing Hillary being the egomaniacal, liberal, gay-loving, socialist micro-managing witch she really is. Bingo
To: Liz
Condi would have to establish some very serious conservative credentials ....as far as we know, she is not pro-life....and that is a must for a Republican candidate.Liz, perhaps you are right. But, I think the shift in the black vote and even the women vote would offset that and then some. Condi would be very, very formidable.
BTW.....I've been off the reservation for awhile myself. I hope you are well and looking forward to Christmas and the New Year.
Lando
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:37:49 PM PST
by
Lando Lincoln
(GWB - history will be very kind to you.)
To: SussexCountyDE
Is this the same Dick "Wrong Way" Morris, who predicted the day before the election that Kerry wins?
If he's bottling whatever juju he has going to still have a gig, I'll take two cases.
UnFreakingBelievable that this dude gets face time and cred.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:42:25 PM PST
by
don-o
(Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
To: Lando Lincoln
I don't think Giuliani will run against Hillary in 2006. He just started an investment-banking firm, and I doubt his partners would have gone for it without a promise of 2 years of relatively undistracted commitment.
To: Lando Lincoln
I think Black conservatives---- who are very, very savvy and sophisticated voters----would be as wary of Condi as white conservatives, if she starts spouting liberal social issue positions.
I'm fine Lando, and busy planning for the holidays, thanks.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:46:18 PM PST
by
Liz
To: SussexCountyDE
One 3 letter word, JEB, can beat Hillary.
To: SussexCountyDE
I'm voting for Mark Sanford, currently governor of South Carolina.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:50:00 PM PST
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: SussexCountyDE
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:51:20 PM PST
by
wardaddy
(Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
To: litany_of_lies
Most Conservatives underestimate how good a campaigner Hillary is. She won New York when many thought she had no chance. Now she's campaigning around the state and later she will expand her campaing nationally.
One question is how Ms Rodham will use the Patriot Act and who she will appoint to the Homeland Security and Intelligence Czar's offices.
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posted on
12/09/2004 8:54:20 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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