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Who poisoned Yushchenko?
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 12/08/04 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:02 PM PST by Pokey78

Doctors at the Austrian clinic that treated Ukraine’s opposition leader confirm there was a plot to kill him

MEDICAL experts have confirmed that Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine’s opposition leader, was poisoned in an attempt on his life during election campaigning, the doctor who supervised his treatment at an Austrian clinic said yesterday.

Doctors at Vienna’s exclusive Rudolfinerhaus clinic are within days of identifying the substance that left Mr Yushchenko’s face disfigured with cysts and lesions, Nikolai Korpan told The Times in a telephone interview.

Specialists in Britain, the United States and France had helped to establish that it was a biological agent, a chemical agent or, most likely, a rare poison that struck him down in the run-up to the presidential election, he said. Doctors needed to examine Mr Yushchenko again at the clinic in Vienna to confirm their diagnosis but were in no doubt that the substance was administered deliberately, he said.

“This is no longer a question for discussion,” Dr Korpan said. “We are now sure that we can confirm which substance caused this illness. He received this substance from other people who had a specific aim.”

Asked if the aim had been to kill him, Dr Korpan said: “Yes, of course.”

Proof that Mr Yushchenko was deliberately poisoned would be a devastating blow for his rival, the Prime Minister, Viktor Yanukovych, as the two candidates prepare for a repeat of a presidential run-off on December 26.

It would raise questions about whether the poisoning was ordered by Mr Yanukovych, his allies, or even the Kremlin, which fears that Mr Yushchenko will take Ukraine out of its sphere of influence by joining Nato and the EU.

Mr Yushchenko had said recently that he would soon reveal proof that his opponents had tried to assassinate him, but a spokeswoman said he had no plans to travel to Vienna.

Mr Yushchenko fell ill on September 6 and was rushed to Rudolfinerhaus four days later with severe abdominal pain and lesions on his face and trunk. His liver, pancreas and intestines were swollen and his digestive tract covered in ulcers, but doctors could not explain the symptoms. Against their advice he went back on the campaign trail after a week, but returned to the clinic two weeks later with back pain.

Again he returned to campaigning, with his face half paralysed and a catheter inserted in his back so that doctors — still baffled — could inject painkillers into his spinal column.

Rudolfinerhaus doctors had previously said that they did not have medical evidence to back up or rule out deliberate poisoning.

Mr Yanukovych’s supporters ridiculed the opposition, saying the illness was probably caused by bad sushi, too much cognac or a severe case of herpes. A parliamentary investigation found no evidence of poisoning.

But Dr Korpan said that toxicologists and other experts at laboratories in Britain, the US and France had since examined Mr Yushchenko’s blood samples and medical records. “We will reveal the results in the near future and confirm the cause of this mysterious illness,” he said. “We need to check him again here in Vienna. If we received him today, we could finish the whole investigation in two or three days.”

He declined to say exactly what the substance might have been, or where it might have come from. “Maybe it was administered through injection, maybe in water, maybe through eating, but the way to give it to him is very simple. This substance can be given very precisely — to only one person,” he said.

John Henry, a prominent British toxicologist, has suggested that Mr Yushchenko’s symptoms were consistent with dioxin poisoning, which causes a severe form of acne called chloracne. Doctors at Rudolfinerhaus did not initially test Mr Yushchenko for dioxin, in part because his skin changes were not as severe as they are now. He also refused a biopsy of his face because he did not want to campaign with stitches. Other doctors have suggested that Mr Yushchenko may have been struck down by a rare illness. Dr Korpan said that Mr Yushchenko should be able to make a full recovery but needed to get back to the clinic. “We are waiting to check him as soon as possible and then we can say what he needs.”

He said Mr Yushchenko was no longer having injections, but was taking a combination of vitamins and medicine to boost his immune system.

The offices of Leonid Kuchma, the outgoing President, and Mr Yanukovych did not comment on Dr Korpan’s disclosure.

But Viktor Pinchuk, Mr Kuchma’s billionaire son-in-law, said in a recent interview he did not believe that there was evidence that Mr Yushchenko was poisoned.

“I believe he is sure it was poisoning. He’s not a liar. But some people from his camp created this provocation against him, his image, the government and the country,” he said.


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To: Destro

A bio altered viral infection introduced into the bloodstream will do that.

Find me some pictures that show this virus manifested in another person. I mean a normal virus.

If it's just a virus, the host lives someone. Probably in close contact with Yuschenko.

Funny that Yuschenko's dinner companions didn't get his "virus".

Viruses are contagious you know. How does Yuschenko's wife, campaign manager, aides etc, look?

Normal I'll bet.


101 posted on 12/08/2004 11:56:18 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

I'll check back later to read your proof. Not just another article from Yankovich's people.

Proof that this is a virus by showing me pictures or medical articles describing this condition in others.

Or the same with the bad sushi/alcohol theories. Pictures or medical articles.

Oh, and pictures of the others around Yuschenko that also caught this virus.

Check with you later.


102 posted on 12/08/2004 12:03:11 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Pokey78

"Who poisoned Yushchenko?"

Moose & Squirrel?


103 posted on 12/08/2004 12:04:37 PM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: texasflower

Talking to yourself - your Soros backed side made the charge - your "side" should prove it.


104 posted on 12/08/2004 12:27:07 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

What you don't seem to understand is that the doctor says it could still be poisoning. That part is not a lie. It's a direct quote.


105 posted on 12/08/2004 12:54:31 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Peach

What you don't understand is that someone INVENTED WHOLE SENTENCES that the doctor did not say. The doctor did not say this was an assasination attempt, dod not say it was poisoning and the clinic did not say so either.


106 posted on 12/08/2004 1:16:48 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: RSASecurity

Don't ever post that link here again or your stay here will be short.


107 posted on 12/08/2004 1:58:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Destro

Everyone understands that, Destro. Why do you keep repeating the obvious and not accepting that the doctor has NOT ruled out poisoning either?

And, btw, other countries were involved and doctors investigated and we have yet to hear from them, including American doctors. I think these doctors were intimidated by the KGB and retracted earlier statements.


108 posted on 12/08/2004 2:15:55 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: ctdonath2

You're thinking of Yanukovich, the Moscow backed, Putin lackey. Here is a link to a video of the event:

http://5tv.com.ua/video/143/95/2/


109 posted on 12/08/2004 4:46:10 PM PST by Agog
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To: Agog

I should have added, here is a link to the event where Yanukovich is expecting a staged assasination attempt and instead some jokester hits him with an egg. This caused much amusement in Ukraine and confirmed, again, what a bafoon the guy is.


110 posted on 12/08/2004 4:48:04 PM PST by Agog
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To: Terpfen

I highly respect Statfor.


111 posted on 12/08/2004 5:35:53 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: texasflower

Ah, no problem. All this stuff does get me upset and I am an independent, so sometimes I go off when I shouldn't because I sort of hate both parties. I apologize to you. I don't support Bush, his wars or his foreign meddling. Putin is right to be angry. We would in the same position if dealing with a superpower trying to rule over the world an impose itself on everyone, their economy and their sovereignty. Vladdy's still mad about Kosovo, maybe even still mad that we helped the Taliban (who used to be our good buddies) beat them of out of Afghanistan. I never even knew why they invaded or if they had a valid reason to because the new-style "patriotism" demands you ask no questions, believe everything you hear and join the bandwagon. It's Orwellian, sorry.

If we value sovereignty, we should value others' right to theirs. This government has turned into an empire which demands the world's obedience to it's will, regardless of whether it's economic or other. or else.... I want a government that promotes peace, not war and squabbles with every nation that dares have a contrary opinion to the empire. It is Orwellian to say pre-emptive war is for peace when you have four or five nations in your sights. I do not believe any of the cover stories for the war and maintain at its heart is economics, as are most wars. Those of us who are attached to the Constitution feared that a terrorist attack would be used to erode our civil liberties, and it is happening. Many of those who felt the same way have decided to ignore what is happening because of partisanship. Had Clinton penned Patriot Act, what reception would it have here? If Clinton were gievn authority by Congress to declare war, what would the response be?
I know republicans and democrats spin, but this is all getting so out of hand. Bush isn't quite "uncle Adolph" nor are the democrats waiting for a chance to poison Bush. Bush could get shot in the head, come back to life and republicans wouldn't blink. Clinton could be indicted for international drug dealing and his people would insist he was framed. Partisanship is just that, and has nothing to do with truth. All we do is pick out our "leader" and fight to the death to prove he is never wrong.

Yeah, I know I'll get dogpiled for spilling my gutts here, called names, accused of being a follower of Mohammed, a liberal, or even a murderer. It only confirms what I believe. Republicans can say I "hate" America in response, but did republicans hate America when they opposed Bill Clinton's Kosovo invasion? As a Christian, I hate the sin and not the sinner, though sometimes it hard. As an American, I hate the actions of the government but it doesn't follow that I hate my country. I love it.


112 posted on 12/08/2004 6:09:08 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: Pokey78

Uncle vlad pooty-poof did it...


113 posted on 12/08/2004 6:09:46 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Destro
I've already given you plenty of medical reasoning that bolsters my case that this was a poison.

There are no pictures I can give you, because this is an out of the ordinary situation. A poisoning with unknown agent. There ARE NO PICTURES OF OTHER VICTIMS except perhaps stashed away in the lab that produced the poison.

You say it was bad sushi. Did he eat it alone? Does this happen all the time with bad sushi and alcohol? Find me a picture.

I looked and couldn't find one. You are the one acting like this is common. Show me.

Then, you say this was a virus. A virus is contagious and has a host somewhere. Find the virus. Enter it in a virus database online and find it. I couldn't.

Find case studies and pictures of others with this virus.

I have 28 years of medical training and experience. I spent 23 years on an ambulance. I worked in the leading hospital in the famed Houston Medical Center. I study medical stuff voraciously. Your claims don't make sense.

Especially given the fact that the doctors haven t ruled out poison and are leaning that way per the articles. Except the one that has already been proven to be a fake.

Back it up. That's all.

The facts are piled so high against your theory, and in favor of poisoning, you are about to be drowned in them.

Is Soros's your problem? Is that why are being so dense?

As shocking and uncomfortable as we all are being on the same side as Soros doesn't mean the cause is automatically wrong.

114 posted on 12/08/2004 6:26:45 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: followerofchrist
We all speak our mind here. I do disgree with much of what you said and there are plenty of valid reasons for our wars. It's all been posted here.

Clearly you have the choice not to accept them if you wish. Your rejection of them however, doesn't mean they aren't valid.

However, given that you jumped in on a converstation I was having with someone else and were pretty ugly to me for no reason and then this posted your long, drawn out and off topic rant, which ended like this.......

Yeah, I know I'll get dogpiled for spilling my gutts here, called names, accused of being a follower of Mohammed, a liberal, or even a murderer. It only confirms what I believe.

It sounds to me you are just looking for a fight.

Perhaps you should search your heart for your real motives?

115 posted on 12/08/2004 6:41:43 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

"BTW, how are things in Moscow right now?"

What????

How would I know? I never been or lived there.


116 posted on 12/08/2004 7:18:19 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: Destro

"Focus - THIS ARTICLE IS BOGUS"

And it is indeed.

I still say he just came up with some illness or got sick by eating contaminated food.

If anyone was intent on killing him, they would not have failed.


117 posted on 12/08/2004 7:34:30 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: Baraonda; Destro
Here you go boys.

Plot to assassinate candidate confirmed. Doctors: Ukraine's Yushchenko victim of bio or chemical agent

118 posted on 12/08/2004 10:00:47 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Peach
Hey Peach, look at this article. I'm anxious to hear what destro has to say about it!

Plot to assassinate candidate confirmed. Doctors: Ukraine's Yushchenko victim of bio or chemical agent

119 posted on 12/08/2004 10:05:31 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Baraonda; Destro

Comments on the latest article?


120 posted on 12/08/2004 10:06:20 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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