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Who poisoned Yushchenko?
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 12/08/04 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:02 PM PST by Pokey78

Doctors at the Austrian clinic that treated Ukraine’s opposition leader confirm there was a plot to kill him

MEDICAL experts have confirmed that Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine’s opposition leader, was poisoned in an attempt on his life during election campaigning, the doctor who supervised his treatment at an Austrian clinic said yesterday.

Doctors at Vienna’s exclusive Rudolfinerhaus clinic are within days of identifying the substance that left Mr Yushchenko’s face disfigured with cysts and lesions, Nikolai Korpan told The Times in a telephone interview.

Specialists in Britain, the United States and France had helped to establish that it was a biological agent, a chemical agent or, most likely, a rare poison that struck him down in the run-up to the presidential election, he said. Doctors needed to examine Mr Yushchenko again at the clinic in Vienna to confirm their diagnosis but were in no doubt that the substance was administered deliberately, he said.

“This is no longer a question for discussion,” Dr Korpan said. “We are now sure that we can confirm which substance caused this illness. He received this substance from other people who had a specific aim.”

Asked if the aim had been to kill him, Dr Korpan said: “Yes, of course.”

Proof that Mr Yushchenko was deliberately poisoned would be a devastating blow for his rival, the Prime Minister, Viktor Yanukovych, as the two candidates prepare for a repeat of a presidential run-off on December 26.

It would raise questions about whether the poisoning was ordered by Mr Yanukovych, his allies, or even the Kremlin, which fears that Mr Yushchenko will take Ukraine out of its sphere of influence by joining Nato and the EU.

Mr Yushchenko had said recently that he would soon reveal proof that his opponents had tried to assassinate him, but a spokeswoman said he had no plans to travel to Vienna.

Mr Yushchenko fell ill on September 6 and was rushed to Rudolfinerhaus four days later with severe abdominal pain and lesions on his face and trunk. His liver, pancreas and intestines were swollen and his digestive tract covered in ulcers, but doctors could not explain the symptoms. Against their advice he went back on the campaign trail after a week, but returned to the clinic two weeks later with back pain.

Again he returned to campaigning, with his face half paralysed and a catheter inserted in his back so that doctors — still baffled — could inject painkillers into his spinal column.

Rudolfinerhaus doctors had previously said that they did not have medical evidence to back up or rule out deliberate poisoning.

Mr Yanukovych’s supporters ridiculed the opposition, saying the illness was probably caused by bad sushi, too much cognac or a severe case of herpes. A parliamentary investigation found no evidence of poisoning.

But Dr Korpan said that toxicologists and other experts at laboratories in Britain, the US and France had since examined Mr Yushchenko’s blood samples and medical records. “We will reveal the results in the near future and confirm the cause of this mysterious illness,” he said. “We need to check him again here in Vienna. If we received him today, we could finish the whole investigation in two or three days.”

He declined to say exactly what the substance might have been, or where it might have come from. “Maybe it was administered through injection, maybe in water, maybe through eating, but the way to give it to him is very simple. This substance can be given very precisely — to only one person,” he said.

John Henry, a prominent British toxicologist, has suggested that Mr Yushchenko’s symptoms were consistent with dioxin poisoning, which causes a severe form of acne called chloracne. Doctors at Rudolfinerhaus did not initially test Mr Yushchenko for dioxin, in part because his skin changes were not as severe as they are now. He also refused a biopsy of his face because he did not want to campaign with stitches. Other doctors have suggested that Mr Yushchenko may have been struck down by a rare illness. Dr Korpan said that Mr Yushchenko should be able to make a full recovery but needed to get back to the clinic. “We are waiting to check him as soon as possible and then we can say what he needs.”

He said Mr Yushchenko was no longer having injections, but was taking a combination of vitamins and medicine to boost his immune system.

The offices of Leonid Kuchma, the outgoing President, and Mr Yanukovych did not comment on Dr Korpan’s disclosure.

But Viktor Pinchuk, Mr Kuchma’s billionaire son-in-law, said in a recent interview he did not believe that there was evidence that Mr Yushchenko was poisoned.

“I believe he is sure it was poisoning. He’s not a liar. But some people from his camp created this provocation against him, his image, the government and the country,” he said.


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To: Destro

Did you not read that US specialists have said he was poisoned? All all these doctors from different countries lying?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1393172,00.html


81 posted on 12/08/2004 8:22:36 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Destro

I should have added: there are American doctors who were involved in this matter as well. Until I hear them say they do not think he was poisoned, I will continue to assume he was.

I think the other doctors were probably threatened by the KGB and have now retracted their statements.


82 posted on 12/08/2004 8:34:15 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Destro

"The suspicion of poisoning has until now neither been confirmed or excluded," Korpan said, according to the Austria Press Agency. He could not be reached for further comment.

That statement doesn't say he was NOT poisoned, by the way.


83 posted on 12/08/2004 8:36:07 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Peach
The Times article is a LIE. They falsely quote a doctor and you still refuse to let go of the article?
84 posted on 12/08/2004 9:20:00 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

They quote a doctor. What about the American doctors who also examined him? And, you will note, the doctor in the article YOU posted did not say he WAS NOT poisoned.


85 posted on 12/08/2004 9:23:28 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Destro

That link you provided has a different story, btw. Nothing to do with the poisoning.


86 posted on 12/08/2004 9:37:43 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Peach
They falsely put words in the mouth of the doctor and you don't want to accept it?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=310431

In a separate development, the director of the Austrian hospital said the cause of the illness that left Yushchenko's face pockmarked is still not known, rejecting a report that doctors had come to a conclusion that the presidential candidate was poisoned.

Doctors are still running tests to try to determine what caused the illness, said Dr. Michael Zimpfer, the Rudolfinerhaus director, although he acknowledged that poisoning was one of the possibilities being investigated.

Zimpfer rejected as "entirely untrue" a story in the Wednesday edition of the London daily The Times, which quoted Dr. Nikolai Korpan the Rudolfinerhaus physician who oversaw Yushchenko's treatment as saying that Yushchenko had been poisoned and the intention was to kill the candidate.

Korpan also was quoted as denying making the remarks.

"The suspicion of poisoning has until now neither been confirmed or excluded," Korpan said, according to the Austria Press Agency. He could not be reached for further comment.

87 posted on 12/08/2004 10:17:33 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Peach
I think the other doctors were probably threatened by the KGB and have now retracted their statements.

I think the doctors were threatened into saying this by Soros and his goons.

88 posted on 12/08/2004 10:25:01 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Destro

Zamfir? He's still around?


89 posted on 12/08/2004 10:48:35 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Destro

Destro. I sounds like you are the only one being fooled here.

It's sad, because I really think you are smarter than this.

Even this article doesn't rule out poision



Doctors are still running tests to try to determine what caused the illness, said Dr. Michael Zimpfer, the Rudolfinerhaus director, although he acknowledged that poisoning was one of the possibilities being investigated.




I'm patient. An exact cause will turn up soon. By that I mean confirmation of poison.


90 posted on 12/08/2004 11:07:31 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Destro

You originally provided a link that did not work or take one to the story you quoted.

I have not said I don't accept the doctor was mis-quoted. I have said the story isn't necessarily a lie.

In the story you quoted, the doctor himself says it is unclear whether he Yushchenko was poisoned or not.

Which part of this don't you understand? You seem to have some agenda and are playing with words. I think that makes you look rather silly, don't you?


91 posted on 12/08/2004 11:08:37 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: texasflower

Focus - THIS ARTICLE IS BOGUS


92 posted on 12/08/2004 11:15:09 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Peach

The link works 100% - the doctor was just mis-quoted - HE NEVER SAID ANY OF THESE THINGS. It is a lie.


93 posted on 12/08/2004 11:16:36 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
The bad sushi article and the imitidation article is fake.

They admitted it was fake. That is was done by a PR firm hired by Yankovich's team. That brings into question EVERYTHING they said.

You can't believe a liar and so far, they are liars. I haven't seen lies coming from the Yuschenko camp. He believes he was poisoned and so do I.

From a medical point of view, of which I have 23 years, this man did not have a virus, unless it was bio altered and administered to him.

That still makes it a poison. Most likely it was a chemical weapon of some sort with a precise administration.

He was burned (ulcerated) all throughout this digestive track destro. Burned. Sushi doesn' t burn.

He has chemical changes in his skin. Sushi doesn't do that. Neither does alcohol.

For whatever reason, you have closed your mind, and you are starting to sound silly.

Have you by change seen the skin changes left in the survivors of Halabja? Take a look at those pictures sometime. If I get time later, I will find them for you.

Unless of course you think Halabjah was caused by mass ingestion of sushi and alcohol.

Look, I understand that it must be hard to admit your team are killers, but the facts are much against them.

Are you Ukrainian?

94 posted on 12/08/2004 11:35:42 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Destro

BTW, I 'm not suggesting that nerve gas was used on Yuschencko.

My reason for bringing them up is the survivors have some horrible skin conditions as a result.

Chemicals will do that to a body sometimes.


95 posted on 12/08/2004 11:41:23 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

So will a viral infection.


96 posted on 12/08/2004 11:42:32 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Baraonda

Where are the before and after pictures from the others. You know, those that ARE NOT opposition politicians.

If you are from Russia or the Ukraine, I'm not surprised they have been able to control you guys for so long.

You believe the silliest stories.


98 posted on 12/08/2004 11:43:20 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Pokey78

Wasn't this the same guy who tried to stage his own assasination, but his plan was foiled by someone throwing an egg at him? (He knew he would be "hit", and fell down "dead" when he was "hit" ... but the egg that hit him wasn't what was planned and he over-reacted rather embarassingly.)


99 posted on 12/08/2004 11:51:28 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Destro
From the Doctor quoted in the article......

Dr. Michal Zimpfer said he had never seen, nor did he sign, the September 28 statement faxed to Reuters. The clinic's statement pointed out that doctors are still unable to determine whether Yushchenko had been poisoned or not. The clinic reiterated that Yushchenko's symptoms were not a product of food poisoning but from substances introduced artificially into his bloodstream.

Here's a definition of poison for you...

Any agent which, when introduced into the animal organism, is capable of producing a morbid, noxious, or deadly effect upon it;

Do you see this....from the article, "substances artificially introduced" and then from the definition, "agent which, when introduced into the animal *human* organisim."

Again destro, are you Russian or Ukranian?

100 posted on 12/08/2004 11:53:00 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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