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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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1 posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:40 PM PST by ChristianDefender
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To: ChristianDefender

I'm sorry, but that's way over the line. It would be far better to deport everyone over here, especially the so-called "students", and then shut down the U. N. building and have them move their organization out of the United States. Also, we should stop ALL foreign aid and resume on a case by case basis. As far as a Palestinian state, Israel could do what ever they damned well pleased.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 11:07:58 PM PST by hleewilder
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To: ChristianDefender

Sounds like a plan, but must go along with deporting EVERY Muslim from America, citizen or not. It's not a First Amendment protected religion, but a bloodthirsty political cult hellbent on world domination, much like the NAZI Party.

They have stated this more clearly than Hitler did in Mein Kampf! It's time to believe their threats and the bloody threats contained in the Koran and rid ourselves of them.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 11:09:01 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: broadsword

Without the financial and moral support of their brethren back home in Mecca, those living in the states will fade into the woodwork once we show some resolve. But it's never going to happen. Not even if we are attacked. Whoops, we were. And Iran should have been the first stop.


4 posted on 12/03/2004 11:11:44 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: broadsword; hleewilder

Thanks for your replies...INDEED...America should impose MASS MUSLIM DEPORTATION.. they hated America to their bones yet they keep on sticking their ar$e in the country in hope for a better life...

...Throwing out the Virus inside America is one effective way... include the Dems if they protest, if Towelheads still insist in attacking, then UNLEASH the POWER...


5 posted on 12/03/2004 11:17:14 PM PST by ChristianDefender (Never give the enemy a foothold in your life)
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To: hleewilder

I've been calling for this for the last 2 years and my friends thought I was crazy. Glad to see at least one more crazy person out there!!

:)

And I took Islam in college...at a Catholic university mind you. I think 99% of Muslims are wonderful people. But I agree that if this is held over their heads, it would certainly make a lot of them think twice. Furthermore, it would entice those 99% to clamp down on the 1% nut cases and possibly bring them to justice.


6 posted on 12/03/2004 11:20:00 PM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: ChristianDefender
I agree , however ? no matter what deterrence we use or we demonstrate to them, it will not stop them from being bent on destroying us ( as far as the most radical of them is concerned ). Our only course of action ( including a nuclear deterrence ) is to degrade and bring to a end their terrorist forces, weapons supplies , their money bloodlines, communication networks, etc. Even though we adopt that policy of nuclear deterrence, we will still have to use that in conjunction with our other efforts.
Our greatest weapon in this battle will be intelligence gathering, and nip in the bud, any plans they have of future terrorism.
7 posted on 12/03/2004 11:23:05 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: ChristianDefender

The plan has one major flaw: Moslems the world over have made plenty of people mad at them. What if one of those angry parties sees this as a fast way to rid the world of this contagious metal disease and sets off a nuke here just to get the US to do their dirty work?


8 posted on 12/03/2004 11:24:05 PM PST by Nateman (The enemies of reason are allies of evil.)
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To: ChristianDefender
I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine: In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

It should be Phase I. However, Phase II should be to deport all illegals in this country, concurrent with tightening our borders.

9 posted on 12/03/2004 11:27:53 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: hleewilder
I fail to see how your suggestions can STOP a WMD attack. I honestly, DON'T see how this "REVISED" MAD doctrine will stop an attack either. When you have fanatics hell bent on being a martyr so they can get 72 cherries and a seat at the table with Allah, logic is useless.

Some type of attack in the future will happen. They will want to top 911 and that will mean the use of WMD. We must continue with our preemption doctrine. The hardest part is to get this NATION to come to grips with the fact that these Islamofacists WANT TO DESTROY AMERICA, our way of life and WESTERN CIVILISATION!!

We need to take it soon to IRAN and North Korea for within 5-7 years they will become verifiably Nuclear Powers.

10 posted on 12/03/2004 11:28:49 PM PST by PISANO (Never Forget 911!! & 911's 1st Heroes..... "Beamer, Glick, Bingham & Bennett.")
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To: ChristianDefender
I have thought and said this many times the past several years. I am sure it has been discussed as an option at the highest levels. I agree that stating it clearly would have a better deterrent effect than just assuming that the Muslim world has already figured it out.
11 posted on 12/03/2004 11:32:00 PM PST by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: Nateman

Also, what if causing a nuclear attack on Islamics by the USA is EXACTLY what OBL & Co. want?

It would cause worldwide condemnation of the USA.
It would unite the Islamic world against us, far more than it is now.
Many other countries would ally with the non-American side.

We will need to respond harshly to a WMD attack, but nuking 100 Islamic cities would be counter-productive at best. At worst, it would cause total war.

Currently, the USA dominates the world. A World War is just about the last thing we want, and nuking a bunch of Islamics is a very good way to have that happen.


12 posted on 12/03/2004 11:32:10 PM PST by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: ChristianDefender
Two words: First strike.

Why wait? We debated doing it during the Cold War. We gave it very, very serious consideration. And so did the Rooskies.

But now we are dealing with the world's real mad dogs. Why wait for them to hit us first?

Also, I'm glad to see him throw in N. Korea. They are, of course, the source of this latest proliferation and deserve to be taken out. But notice I said "latest." If muslims are acting as a kind of surrogate for the North Koreans, the North Koreans are acting as surrogates for China.

13 posted on 12/03/2004 11:36:47 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Nateman

"What if one of those angry parties sees this as a fast way to rid the world of this contagious metal disease and sets off a nuke here just to get the US to do their dirty work?"

Why would that be a problem?


14 posted on 12/03/2004 11:40:36 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: ChristianDefender

BTTT


15 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: hleewilder
It's far from over the line; it's our only protection against one of these outlaw states from hooking the terrorists up with everything they need.
And while it may not have been this specific strategy, shortly after the president made his "you are either with us or against us" speech to the UN shortly after 911, emissaries from the US made direct contact with most of the governments on the planet and laid out something very similar to this strategy as being our trump card should we be attacked with WMD.
16 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:18 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: the lone wolf

"Also, what if causing a nuclear attack on Islamics by the USA is EXACTLY what OBL & Co. want?"

Your thinking is rather shallow on this... Same results either way.


17 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:20 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: ChristianDefender

Wow, it takes WingNutDaily a good 3 years to catch up with an idea that several hundred morons on FR have each individually imagined that they were the first to develop in their own brilliant minds and then proudly posted on (usually complete with link to cool nuclear fireball pic.)

Bravo.

I should sit down and figure out how many Americans you'd kill in those attacks. And non-Muslims foreigners.

And of course, OBL in his wildest wet dreams fantasizes about the US doing something like what this article proposes.


18 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:26 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ChristianDefender

Too stupid for words.


19 posted on 12/03/2004 11:44:53 PM PST by Melas
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To: ChristianDefender
Not a credible threat - sorry.

MAD worked in part during the Cold War because both sides had thousands of nukes, so could reasonably worry that if they didn't respond massively and instantly, they might never respond at all, in any way whatsover beyond a few lucky survivors with handguns in the Pacific coastal wilderness areas.

The terrorists present no such threat to us. They might could take out a big chunk of a couple of cities. The existence of the United States would not be seriously at risk.

The only serious threat that the initiator of a massive nuclear strike had was from an immediate and massive retaliation.

We can take out the Islamic nations with far less loss of life, so we would.

Indeed, if you were President, I trust that even you would refuse to actually pull the trigger on such an instant wasting of hundreds of millions of people, in retaliation for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

An eye for an eye, perhaps ten eyes for an eye, but certainly not a thousand eyes for each eye.

Not right. Immoral. Plain and simple.

20 posted on 12/03/2004 11:45:02 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
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