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1 posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:40 PM PST by ChristianDefender
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I'm sorry, but that's way over the line. It would be far better to deport everyone over here, especially the so-called "students", and then shut down the U. N. building and have them move their organization out of the United States. Also, we should stop ALL foreign aid and resume on a case by case basis. As far as a Palestinian state, Israel could do what ever they damned well pleased.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 11:07:58 PM PST by hleewilder
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Sounds like a plan, but must go along with deporting EVERY Muslim from America, citizen or not. It's not a First Amendment protected religion, but a bloodthirsty political cult hellbent on world domination, much like the NAZI Party.

They have stated this more clearly than Hitler did in Mein Kampf! It's time to believe their threats and the bloody threats contained in the Koran and rid ourselves of them.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 11:09:01 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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I agree , however ? no matter what deterrence we use or we demonstrate to them, it will not stop them from being bent on destroying us ( as far as the most radical of them is concerned ). Our only course of action ( including a nuclear deterrence ) is to degrade and bring to a end their terrorist forces, weapons supplies , their money bloodlines, communication networks, etc. Even though we adopt that policy of nuclear deterrence, we will still have to use that in conjunction with our other efforts.
Our greatest weapon in this battle will be intelligence gathering, and nip in the bud, any plans they have of future terrorism.
7 posted on 12/03/2004 11:23:05 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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The plan has one major flaw: Moslems the world over have made plenty of people mad at them. What if one of those angry parties sees this as a fast way to rid the world of this contagious metal disease and sets off a nuke here just to get the US to do their dirty work?


8 posted on 12/03/2004 11:24:05 PM PST by Nateman (The enemies of reason are allies of evil.)
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I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine: In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

It should be Phase I. However, Phase II should be to deport all illegals in this country, concurrent with tightening our borders.

9 posted on 12/03/2004 11:27:53 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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I have thought and said this many times the past several years. I am sure it has been discussed as an option at the highest levels. I agree that stating it clearly would have a better deterrent effect than just assuming that the Muslim world has already figured it out.
11 posted on 12/03/2004 11:32:00 PM PST by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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Two words: First strike.

Why wait? We debated doing it during the Cold War. We gave it very, very serious consideration. And so did the Rooskies.

But now we are dealing with the world's real mad dogs. Why wait for them to hit us first?

Also, I'm glad to see him throw in N. Korea. They are, of course, the source of this latest proliferation and deserve to be taken out. But notice I said "latest." If muslims are acting as a kind of surrogate for the North Koreans, the North Koreans are acting as surrogates for China.

13 posted on 12/03/2004 11:36:47 PM PST by LibWhacker
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BTTT


15 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Wow, it takes WingNutDaily a good 3 years to catch up with an idea that several hundred morons on FR have each individually imagined that they were the first to develop in their own brilliant minds and then proudly posted on (usually complete with link to cool nuclear fireball pic.)

Bravo.

I should sit down and figure out how many Americans you'd kill in those attacks. And non-Muslims foreigners.

And of course, OBL in his wildest wet dreams fantasizes about the US doing something like what this article proposes.


18 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:26 PM PST by Strategerist
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Too stupid for words.


19 posted on 12/03/2004 11:44:53 PM PST by Melas
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Not a credible threat - sorry.

MAD worked in part during the Cold War because both sides had thousands of nukes, so could reasonably worry that if they didn't respond massively and instantly, they might never respond at all, in any way whatsover beyond a few lucky survivors with handguns in the Pacific coastal wilderness areas.

The terrorists present no such threat to us. They might could take out a big chunk of a couple of cities. The existence of the United States would not be seriously at risk.

The only serious threat that the initiator of a massive nuclear strike had was from an immediate and massive retaliation.

We can take out the Islamic nations with far less loss of life, so we would.

Indeed, if you were President, I trust that even you would refuse to actually pull the trigger on such an instant wasting of hundreds of millions of people, in retaliation for the murder of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

An eye for an eye, perhaps ten eyes for an eye, but certainly not a thousand eyes for each eye.

Not right. Immoral. Plain and simple.

20 posted on 12/03/2004 11:45:02 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
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Heck, for Pearl Harbor we firebombed Japan and killed millions, and also nuked them. If a nuke goes off here due to islamic ways...

We must do far more than we did to Japan for just Pearl Harbor.

In fact, 9/11 could be considered to be a situation that we had to do it at least as bad to Japan... Which we are conventially doing to the iraq islamics now, but I'd prefer several nuclear strikes as well on their cities like WW2.


23 posted on 12/03/2004 11:47:52 PM PST by Kornev
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The way to guarantee a first strike AGAINST the U.S.A., and as well as a rapid expansion of Nuclear WMD capable countries, is to announce such a policy. Moreover, a promise to destory every one and every thing "Muslim" will ensure many non-radicalized Muslims will join in the fight against us, via whatever means possible, including terrorist borne WMD's. Do we include Indonesia too? Turkey? What about the heavily Muslm area's of Britain, or even Michigan??

Adequate deterence can be achieved by other means. As we are seeing in Afghanistan and Iraq, terrorist cannot exist without bases, safe haven's, and generally speaking, indirect support of states. By taking on the biggest bully on the block in the Middle east, and besting Iraq in a few months (the following terror campaign not withstanding), the U.S. has put the rest of the Middle eastern dictator's on notice.

Deterence isn't easy. Deterence isn't certain. One maniac can ruin the best laid defensive plans. However, we dictate the terms on offense, and that's where we'll stay. An offensive campaign will keep us safe, and that's what the last election was all about.

Right now, the primary nuclear terror threats originate in Pakistan and Iran. Pakistan is under control, to some extent. Iran will almost certainly be next, and when the mad Mullahs in Iran are deposed, while Kaddafi lives long and prospers in Libya, there will be no Muslim state in the world which will miss the point. Without state protection, without gas centrafuges and a major infrastruture, terrorists will not be producing Nuc WMD's any time soon.

Iran is the next key in the deterrence puzzle, and then, N. Korea.

SFS

31 posted on 12/03/2004 11:50:59 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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Sounds like it would be a rough day for our boys in Baghdad when the US launches a nuclear attack on Islam's largest cities.
34 posted on 12/03/2004 11:52:48 PM PST by pete anderson
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So the terrorists bomb one of our cities with a dirty bomb. Now they are "Islam" so what country are you going to bomb back. These guys are individual gang like terrorists not "country" terrorists. As in Iraq now, there are Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis, Arabs, so who do you bomb?


37 posted on 12/03/2004 11:54:29 PM PST by fish hawk
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Troll!
And the entire premise is false regarding MAD and 100 cities being targeted for nuclear destruction.
USAF,SAC,NCOIC, 20170.
Next?


39 posted on 12/03/2004 11:56:29 PM PST by sarasmom (McCarthy has been vindicated. When will Carter be vilified?)
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And if a Tim McVey were to attack Oklahoma City again are we going to Nuke to 100 Biggest American Cities?
41 posted on 12/03/2004 11:56:49 PM PST by pete anderson
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Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) Muslim - Style. Ping.

"Nukem' Danno"

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We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited.

Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West.

But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington?

42 posted on 12/03/2004 11:58:05 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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There's actually a better strategy than this. Simply shut down the oil production in all Muslim nations for the next 1000 years by contaminating them with radioactivity and you shut off their revenue. We'll have to get used to $10 a gallon gas, but that will only take a few years. At that point the oil production would be north and south America and Russia.
44 posted on 12/03/2004 11:59:06 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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A recipe for world wide disaster.

And I'm no "peacenik" or "leftwinger".


49 posted on 12/04/2004 12:02:16 AM PST by Bullish
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