Posted on 12/02/2004 7:49:38 AM PST by esryle
Teen Says He Lost Virginity At 9
CLEVELAND -- Research shows 16 percent of girls and 20 percent of boys have engaged in sexual intercourse by the time they reach their 14th birthday. For some fourth- and fifth-graders, sex is the topic of school lunch room conversations almost daily.
In a special report, NewsChannel5's Deb Lee explored the troubling statistics.
Lee talked with a 15-year-old Cleveland-area girl who is enrolled at the Pepper Pike Alcohol Treatment Center for kids about her experiences with alcohol and sex.
The teen said kids are having sex as young as 11 and 12 years old. She added that it happens at house parties in Cleveland and surrounding suburbs, where the liquor flows so freely and girls sometimes black out.
I know at least six or seven girls that are my good friends that got raped the first time they ever had sex, she said. That's how they lost their virginity by getting raped at a party while they were under the influence.
Another teen, who will be called Jay, also knows about the parties. He's also from the Cleveland area and was a resident at the treatment center. Jay, who is 18 now, said he had sex at an early age, too.
"I lost my virginity when I was 9 years old," he said. "Most of the time, it's us boys pressuring the girls to do this, do that. But sometimes it's not all our fault. Sometimes girls be dressing all trashy... you see them out in the street with their little short skirts and tank tops and stuff."
Another teen says TV glorifies sex.
"They're all drinking and getting drunk and everything and the rappers are talking about doing drugs and having sex with people and all that," a teen said.
Dr. Slyvia Rimm, an area expert on child psychology, has interviewed hundreds of children around the country for a book on habits of middle schoolers.
Lee said she discovered that second-, third- and fourth-graders are talking about sex.
"The oral sex, even a generation ago, wasn't common in high school and now is common as early as 8th grade and even common in high school and taken lightly, I'm sorry to say, in our former president's words," Rimm said.
Lee reported that former President Bill Clintons statement: I did not have sex with that woman... Miss Lewinsky," -- has had an impact.
She said teens do not think oral sex counts as sex.
"I think there can be real psychological harm when kids are that young Rimm said.
Many teens are choosing abstinence and sobriety. In fact, the 15-year-old in the story sought help through treatment and is now beginning a new life, in a new community, at a new school.
"I'm not going to have the peer pressure, and I'm gonna be able to do what I need to do to help myself," she said.
He wanted to be known as the "Education President" and we all know exactly what he taught the country's kids.
No matter what he ever does in his lifetime, THIS will be the legacy of his presidency.
Thanks up on dat. I am be a genius, sheeeeeee-it.
That's what I was thinking.
We have parties quite regularly at our house. In fact, when we put on an addition a few years ago, before our son hit his teen years, we designed the addition to include a game room with pool table, etc.
My son has friends over all the time, but we're always here and visibly present.
We also have "family parties" where my kid's friends come, but the parents are invited too.
These types of parties have been especially successful, and we like getting to know the parents of our son's friends.
that would be BeyoUnd
That was my very first thought on reading the first two paragraphs of this article. If parents are in the home, this kind of crap will not likely be going on.
If a girl had sex in Sapulpa Okla where I grew up 1951-1969 people found out about it she was SHUNNED. She lost all her friends. She was made fun of and laughed at and called ugly names. And if a boy was known to be sexually active, he was considered nasty. There was one named Charlie B. and he was so nasty, no one wanted anything to do with him. He had sex with all the "bad" girls in junior high. Most of those girls didn't graduate, they dropped out. Some disappeared, after getting pregnant, they were went to another town.
I remember instances of guys like Bill M. who asked Debi M. out and she refused to go out with him, he had a bad reputation, because he had sex with several girls and it was known. He couldn't get a date with a decent girl.
That was when we were in high school in the late 1960s. I guess where I grew up it wasn't as wild as where you grew up. Thank goodness! There were a lot of pregnancies in high school though. That was sad. A couple of those marriages stayed together. Their kids are almost as old as they are now.
As the parent (Mom) of teen-age boys, this has been the subject of many conversations in our house!! I thought having boys would be easier than girls. My, how my perspective has changed based on how, even "nice" girls look and behave these days!
Talking works when parents take the time to engage... makes me wonder where the parents of these girls are when they go out of the house any more.
While we're at it, let's give them smokes for free.
Well, they are handing out free condoms....
I'm over 60. In my experience those who began their sex life early had the most success with it...and damn good relationships as well. I can't claim that this is representative because I chose my friends for their ability and decency but it does mean something.
My son has friends over all the time, but we're always here and visibly present.
Sounds like ME. I always have a "question" to ask. Just to be able to pop in and see what's up. hee hee I offer pizza and drinks when I pop in. I always keep my eyes open.
For another reason, if these kids are drinking alcohol, WE can be arrested for it.
Wow where did you grow up? I know many fellow college students who would like to move their ;-)
With middle and upper class white kids trying hard to be 'ghetto', one can no longer make that assumption.
Out at the bars, looking for their next partner.
I think it was. I'm not saying some kids didn't get involved with sex at 12 back then but it was definitely rare. At my school you would have been considered a major perv - not cool at all.
And where did you carry this out? There were always a ton of people at my house and my friends' houses. Adults were always snooping around everywhere. I couldn't get rid of them until I had a car (and I practically WAS one by then).
There's the legacy thing again....
Another lamestream reporter.
How many of these caught STDs?
How many got pregnant?
How many Murders resulted?
How many got abortions
How many went into Psychiatric Wards as a result
A reporter without the facts is like a liberal without an excuse.
There is a really disturbing movie called "Kids" that deals with this scenario. It's about 10 years old.
It's shocking, probably should be X-rated, and is very brutal.
Basically, it follows some pre-teens in an almost documentary fashion, including one predatory boy who has AIDS and does not care.
It is VERY explicit, but I recommend parents screen it and consider showing it to their children --- I believe it may scare "kids" into avoiding this fast life.
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