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Warnings Before 1995 Oklahoma Bombing
Guardian ^ | Thursday June 20, 2002 7:50 AM

Posted on 12/02/2004 6:52:48 AM PST by Calpernia

WASHINGTON (AP) - Just weeks before Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement received several warnings that Islamic terrorists were seeking to strike on American soil and that a likely target was government buildings, documents show.

The information, though it was never linked to McVeigh, was stark enough that the Clinton administration urged stepped up security patrols and screening at federal buildings nationwide, including those in Oklahoma.

The government, however, didn't fortify buildings with cement barriers like those hurriedly installed after McVeigh detonated his explosive-laden truck at the curb of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995, officials said.

Islamic extremists are determined to ``strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future,'' said one warning obtained by The Associated Press.

The intelligence that prompted the warnings was gathered across the globe from Iran and Syria to the Philippines and became more specific as to the potential type attack (suicide bombing), target (government building) and likely date (after the third week in March 1995), the documents show.

The U.S. Marshal's Service issued an alert on March 15, 1995, to federal courthouses it protects, including the one in Oklahoma City across the street from where McVeigh's truck bomb killed 168 people, the documents show.

``Iranian extremists want it made clear that steps are being taken to strike at the Great Satan,'' a term used frequently in the Mideast to describe the United States, the marshal's memo said. It said a fatwa - a religious order - had been issued to attack marshals or their buildings.

``There is sufficient threat potential to request that a heightened level of security awareness and caution be implemented,'' the memo added.

Separately, the General Services Administration received a warning from the FBI and asked hundreds of federal buildings it operates to increase security details, including the Murrah building, officials said.

``We were told there was a fatwa threatening to target federal buildings,'' GSA spokeswoman Viki Reath said this week. ``We increased our patrols to 12-hour shifts.''

More than two dozen current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials interviewed by AP said the period of spring 1995 was a time of heightened ``chatter'' among terrorists seeking to strike the United States.

But the officials cautioned the FBI and CIA exhaustively investigated whether McVeigh could have been aided by Mideast terrorist and found no credible evidence linking him to any Islamic extremists, including those who prompted the 1995 warnings.

The information about 1995 emerges as a joint House-Senate panel examining the intelligence and law enforcement failures that preceded Sept. 11 has expanded its mission to look back at the late 1980s and 1990s.

John Gannon, former deputy CIA director for intelligence under President Clinton, said spring 1995 was one of a handful of periods in the 1990s when intelligence on terror threats peaked as the government increasingly turned its attention to Osama bin Laden and his emerging terrorist network.

Gannon said the 1995 warnings were plentiful enough that he initially assumed Islamic extremists had struck when the bomb exploded in Oklahoma City. Law enforcement too issued initial bulletins looking for Arab suspects and borrowed Arabic translators from the military.

``When I first heard about the Oklahoma bombing, the first reaction I had was I wonder if this were a foreign group that had done this or the Islamic extremists that had come up on our screen,'' Gannon said.

He said it was in 1998, after bin Laden issued a fatwa urging specific attacks on America and two U.S. embassies in Africa were bombed, that U.S. anti-terrorism efforts escalated markedly.

``If there was a watershed year, it was 1998. That significantly elevated our concern and resulted in a concerted effort, and a very strong program to go get Osama bin Laden,'' he said.

The 1995 intelligence was specific enough that ``if that was today, you'd have (Bush Homeland Security Director) Tom Ridge going out and saying we have this threat,'' said former Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., who in 1995 was a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

McCollum formed a congressional task force in the late 1980s that began warning of the growing threat of terrorism, and which issued some of the 1995 alerts.

``For a good number of years, there was a failure to acknowledge the severity of the threat,'' he said. ``There really had been this disbelief or unwillingness to scare people.''

Former Clinton White House press secretary Joe Lockhart said ``protecting America against terrorists was a high priority'' during the 1990s. ``Threat information regularly came in and steps were taken to deal with it,'' he said.

``In general, the record is very clear that the Clinton administration increased counterterrorism funding and focus more than any other prior administration based on the emerging threats,'' Lockhart added.

Some of the 1995 warnings were pointed.

``Iranian sources confirmed Tehran's desire and determination to strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future,'' said a Feb. 27, 1995, terror warning by the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

The warnings became increasingly specific as to the possible location, type of attack and likely dates.

``These strikes are most likely to occur either in the immediate future or in the new Iranian year - starting 21 March 1995,'' the congressional task force predicted.

U.S. intelligence monitored a series of meetings and conferences between senior officials of Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and other terror organizations in mid-February 1995 in which the subject of killing Americans on U.S. soil came up, officials said.

During these conferences, known terrorists made specific mention of Congress and the White House as ``institutions that are great enemies of the Islamist movement,'' according to a congressional warning.

``This is a deviation from past discussions beyond referring to the U.S. as a single entity to pointing to specific branches of government as their true enemies,'' it added.

Around the same time, the FBI received intelligence from the Philippines that two men later convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing had been arrested as they were plotting to blow up U.S. airliners. The men planned to hijack one airliner and crash it into the CIA, Pentagon or White House, documents show.

The marshal's warning explained that Islamic extremists had issued a fatwa to kill marshals personnel or strike their buildings because of an episode at the end of the World Trade Center bombing trial in which deputy marshals accidentally stepped on a copy of the Koran during a scuffle.

``Allegedly, the fatwa is being disseminated to persons in the United States who have the capability to carry it out,'' the memo said.

The terrorists could be suicide bombers who may ``target as many victims as possible and draw as much media coverage as possible,'' it added. ``Once the press is on the scene the new plans call for blowing up everyone.''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1995; clinton; conspiracy; fatwa; iran; islam; islamicterrorists; murrah; okcbombing; oklahomacity; timothymcveigh
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To: Calpernia
" . . . no credible evidence linking him to any Islamic extremists, . . . "

Dog still won't hunt. I guess if the court doesn't get to SEE the 'evidence,' I suppose it can't be admitted -- nor determined if it IS credible evidence.

I'd settle for just a quick peek at all the security videos that were spirited away.

41 posted on 12/02/2004 9:28:28 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: billygoatgruff
It does seem that T McVey was executed rather quickly.

No kidding Dick Tracy.

42 posted on 12/02/2004 9:34:27 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Eastbound

No one can supress the circumstantial evidence suggesting Nichols' ties to Abu Sayyaf.


43 posted on 12/02/2004 9:35:59 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: american spirit
....do you have any info on the informant (Carol Howe) who infiltrated the Elohim City group and had suspicions about Andreas Strassmeir, a German national whose father was a high offical in Germanys intelligence circles?

I believe she's mentioned somewhere in all those links- but I can't recall seeing anything newer than that.

44 posted on 12/02/2004 9:54:51 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Calpernia

Maybe some of Clinton's death masks were painted by his Muhammadan buddies?


45 posted on 12/02/2004 9:56:16 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Calpernia

Terry Nichols and Muhammadan Bomb Makers Hung Out Together BTTT


46 posted on 12/02/2004 9:57:36 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


47 posted on 12/02/2004 10:42:46 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Calpernia

No one, and I do mean no one in the media has ever gone to OK City to interview the countless witnesses who saw a LOT in the days leading up to and during the explosion...just interview the citizens of OKC....that will be very revealing....but the media won't do it. Why?


48 posted on 12/02/2004 1:21:57 PM PST by smiley (Watch out Dems! I'm a William F. Buckley Conservative!!)
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To: Calpernia

Cal:

I worked in law enforcement in the OKC metro area for many years, and was there on April 19, 1995, as well as a few years afterwards.

Apparently this is the warning I had to read during one one of my shifts, and it was issued over NCIC. It was apparently transmitted from the El Paso Information Center (EPIC) of the Customs Service. I've described it on FR before, on a couple of threads.

The warning described a heightened risk of a terrorist attack to on April 19, 1995 due to a variety of threats. IIRC, no specific threat was mentioned from a specific group or groups. It did say something about April 19 being an anniversary date for a bunch of groups.

It seems to me, thinking about it, everyone was universally focused on the possibility of domestic terrorist attacks to avenge Waco, which happened a couple of years earlier, and the idea of a foreign terrorist organization doing something was low on the probabilities chart, but not to be discounted.

Thats what I remember about it.


49 posted on 12/02/2004 2:11:45 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: ExSoldier; HipShot; JustPiper; appalachian_dweller; callmejoe; WestCoastGal; Cindy; Godzilla; ...

Ping to a really good post by Cal


50 posted on 12/02/2004 2:14:20 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz

A situation not unlike being faced by feds and LEOs today. Threats with no specifics except that there is a favored date.


51 posted on 12/02/2004 2:43:52 PM PST by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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To: Calpernia
Bump for later.
52 posted on 12/02/2004 4:06:03 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: judicial meanz

This article has been posted on other threads in the past. It is a long Wall Street Journal Op-Ed from 2002. I snipped it as much as I could without cutting out the relevant OKC sections.

Iraqi and Iranian connections are not mutually exclusive. It was and it is today collusion. It is as much an axis as was the one in WWII.

The same axis network that brought us OKC and 9/11 is the same axis network that sponsors al Qaeda, Zarqawi, and the present attacks in Iraq that were preplanned over a year before the invasion. Elements of former Iraqi and current Iranian intelligence are guiding the insurgency inside Iraq and following an operational plan developed years ago.

There is an endgame to the planned scenario. It begins with the single day of horror in America and ends on a road to Jerusalem that passes through Iraq.

www.opinionjournal.com/extra?id=110002217

The Iraq Connection

Was Saddam involved in Oklahoma City and the first WTC bombing?

BY MICAH MORRISON
Thursday, September 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT

. . .Still, the long investigative work by Ms. Davis and Ms. Mylroie, coming to parallel conclusions though working largely independently of each other, has gained some prominent supporters. Former CIA Director James Woolsey, for example, recently told the Journal that "when the full stories of these two incidents are finally told, those who permitted the investigations to stop short will owe big explanations to these two brave women. And the nation will owe them a debt of gratitude."

Ms. Davis, for example, has a copy of a bulletin put out by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol immediately after the Murrah bombing. It specifies a blue car occupied by "Middle Eastern male subject or subjects." According to police radio traffic at the time, also obtained by Ms. Davis, a search was on as well for a brown Chevrolet pickup "occupied by Middle Eastern subjects." When an officer radioed in asking if "this is good information or do we really not know," a dispatcher responded "authorization FBI." Law-enforcement sources tell Ms. Davis that the FBI bulletin was quickly and mysteriously withdrawn.

The next day, the federal government issued arrest warrants and sketches of two men seen together, John Doe No. 1 and No. 2. John Doe 1 turned out to be McVeigh, who was quickly picked up on an unrelated charge. Following the arrest of McVeigh and Nichols, the Justice Department changed course, saying the witnesses were confused and there was no John Doe 2 with McVeigh.

But Ms. Davis, who was covering the case at the time for KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, says in fact there was a John Doe No. 2, and that she has identified him. The original warrant for John Doe No. 2 described a man about 5 feet 10 inches, average weight, with brown hair and a tattoo on his left arm. She says the man matching this description is an Iraqi political refugee named Hussain al-Hussaini, an itinerant restaurant worker who entered the country in 1994 from a Saudi Arabian refugee camp and soon found his way to Oklahoma City. She says she has more than 20 witnesses who can place him near the Murrah Building on the day of the bombing or finger him in parts of the conspiracy. . .

In 1996, Mr. al-Hussaini returned to Boston, where he had first entered the U.S. He found work as a cook at Logan Airport. . .According to notes taken by a nurse at the psychiatric clinic, Mr. al-Hussaini quit his job at Logan Airport in November 1997, nearly four years before planes from there were hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001. Her notes say he stated, "If anything happens there, I'll be a suspect."

Evidence supporting Ms. Davis's suspicions surfaced during discovery for the McVeigh trial. An FBI report, for example, records a call a few hours after the bombing from Vincent Cannistraro, a retired CIA official who had once been chief of operations for the agency's counter-terrorism center. He told Kevin Foust, a FBI counter-terror investigator, that he'd been called by a top counter-terror adviser to the Saudi royal family. Mr. Foust reported that the Saudi told Mr. Cannistraro about "information that there was a 'squad' of people currently in the United States, very possibly Iraqis, who have been tasked with carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States. The Saudi claimed that he had seen a list of 'targets,' and that the first on the list was the federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma." . . .

Ms. Davis's evidence was examined by Patrick Lang, a Middle East expert and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency's human intelligence collection section. In a memo to Ms. Davis, Mr. Lang concluded that Mr. al-Hussaini likely is a member of Unit 999 of the Iraqi Military Intelligence Service, or Estikhabarat. He wrote that this unit is headquartered at Salman Pak southeast of Baghdad, and "deals with clandestine operations at home and abroad." . . .

"There is a Middle Eastern terrorist cell operating in Oklahoma City. They were operating prior to the Oklahoma City bombing and they are still operating today." . . .

Astonishingly, the Murrah bombing and the first WTC attack share a connection. Yousef and Terry Nichols were in the Philippines simultaneously. Nichols's trips there are undisputed; his wife's relatives lived in Cebu City. Cebu is also the territory of the Islamic terrorist group Abu Sayyaf. McVeigh lawyers sought to substantiate an "others unknown" defense theory, and made extensive filings concerning Nichols's activities there.These filings show that he was often in Cebu without his wife, and that he was in frequent contact with Ernesto Malaluan, a relative of his wife who had once lived in Saudi Arabia and owned a boarding house in Cebu City. The filing asserted that his boarding house "shelters students from a university well known for its Islamic militancy."A defense examination of phone records found that Nichols had repeatedly called the Cebu boarding house in the weeks preceding the bombing. Some of the calls were billed to a prepaid phone card to which McVeigh also had access. The calls were often made from pay phones at truck stops and the like, and sometimes followed mysterious patterns. In one instance, for example, the same number was dialed nine times in nine minutes before someone answered and spoke for 14 minutes.The McVeigh defense also produced two witnesses, Nichols's father-in-law and a resort worker, who said that while in the Philippines, Nichols had asked them if they knew anyone who knew "how to make bombs."

The defense team also obtained a statement from Philippines law-enforcement officials about a meeting of Nichols and Yousef. The statement was given by a putative Abu Sayyaf leader, Edward Angeles. Angeles is a murky figure. Born Ibrahim Yakub and said to be one of the founders of Abu Sayyaf, he surrendered to the Philippine Army in 1995, claiming he had been all the time a deep penetration agent for the government. Angeles was assassinated in 1999 by unknown gunmen.The McVeigh defense filings portray the Nichols link to the Cebu City boarding house, Ramzi Yousef and Abu Sayyaf as grounds for believing that bomb-making expertise may have been passed to Nichols through "Iraqi intelligence based in the Philippines." . . .


53 posted on 12/02/2004 4:37:31 PM PST by callmejoe
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To: Calpernia

The past as prelude . . .going into the "belly of the eagle" . . .

"Some of the 1995 warnings were pointed. ``Iranian sources confirmed Tehran's desire and determination to strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future,'' said a Feb. 27, 1995, terror warning by the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. The warnings became increasingly specific as to the possible location, type of attack and likely dates.

``These strikes are most likely to occur either in the immediate future or in the new Iranian year - starting 21 March 1995,'' the congressional task force predicted."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39545

(snip)

Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," points out the writing of the report was in the same timeframe Yossef Bodansky, former director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, confirmed that Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, one of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden's lieutenants, traveled to Oklahoma City in the spring of 1995 " to insure the smooth execution of the pending terrorist strike against the Murrah federal complex," said Davis.

"Bodansky explained that he did not confirm Al-Zawahiri's mission to the heartland state until late 1999," Davis told WND. "This revelation coincides with Richard Clarke's drafting of the Berger-directed review regarding the realization that al-Qaida had reached America's shores."

Asked Davis: "Was Bodansky's confirmation that the chief lieutenant of the bin Laden terror network traveled to the U.S. to oversee final preparations for the 1995 terrorist strike on the Oklahoma City federal building included in Clarke's draft reports that are now officially missing from National Archives?

"Did Berger and Clarke review Bodansky's skillful analysis of the Murrah Building bomb that drew striking parallels to the techniques used by known Islamist groups for operations in Argentina and elsewhere?"

Bodansky penned several task force warnings in 1995, which were generated from multiple intelligence sources in several Middle Eastern countries over a period of 18 months prior to the Oklahoma City bombing. Information was also gleaned from terrorist conferences that took place in the fall of 1994 and early 1995 in which Iran's desire to strike inside the "Great Satan" was unveiled. Davis noted President Clinton wielded the power of executive privilege to seal the 1995 task force warnings.

Yesterday, President Bush announced his administration is investigating links between Iran and the 9-11 attacks.

"As to direct connections with September the 11th, we're digging into the facts to determine if there was one," Bush said.


54 posted on 12/02/2004 5:06:59 PM PST by callmejoe
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To: Calpernia

The on-scene news reports at the time reported a second bomb had been removed by authorities and they were moving the bomb squad personel into position near the third bomb. This was on every major and local network. What ever happened two these other bombs and who planted them???


55 posted on 12/02/2004 5:14:00 PM PST by patriot_wes
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To: Calpernia

That's interesting.


56 posted on 12/02/2004 6:25:02 PM PST by Cindy
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To: callmejoe
What was the number of BATF agents at the Murrah Building? What percentage of those were present for the blast? I got this little tidbit from a staffer to a congresscritter.

They knew.

57 posted on 12/02/2004 6:32:20 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: shadowman99
Clinton knew.

As did Jamie Gorelick, Janet Reno, Richard Clark,etc.

58 posted on 12/03/2004 12:25:43 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: ExSoldier

No idea what the story is on BATF. Perhaps they were jumpy on the Waco anniversary (more so than the other federal workers) as they were close to the action.

All I know is that there were *many* DEA agents, Secret Service Agents, DoD employees, and military personnel killed (not to mention HUD, Social Security, and Ag Dept.)

So if there was a conspiracy, the vast majority of the federal agents at Murrah did not get the memo.


59 posted on 12/03/2004 4:01:33 AM PST by callmejoe
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.

Calpernia posted this old article from 2002 yesterday- apparently some good perspective to be gained over time.

60 posted on 12/03/2004 4:05:02 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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