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WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Sunday, November 28, 2004

Posted on 11/28/2004 12:21:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Sunday, November 28, 2004



LAW OF THE LAND
View homosexual film,
or school faces lawsuit

ACLU tells district: Force students
to watch 'tolerance training' video


Posted: November 28, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

If administrators of Kentucky's Boyd County school district can't find a way to force all students to attend sexual orientation and gender identity "tolerance training," the American Civil Liberties Union is threatening to take them to court – again.

Ten months ago, the district settled a lawsuit with the ACLU over the right of a student group, the Gay-Straight Alliance, to meet on campus. The year-long litigation strained relations in the conservative northeast portion of the state. In addition to allowing the group to meet on campus after school, district officials agreed that all students, staff and teachers would be required to receive "tolerance training."

The agreement stipulated all would attend "mandatory anti-harassment workshops," including the viewing of an hour-long "training" video covering sexual orientation and gender identity issues for middle and high school students.

But ten months on, one-third of Boyd County students have failed to see the video, and that has the ACLU threatening court action.

"It sounds like the training can't possibly be done," James Esseks, litigation director for the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, tells the Louisville Courier-Journal.

District figures show 105 of 730 middle school students opted out of the training video and 145 of 971 high school students did likewise. On the day scheduled for training, 324 students didn't show up for school.

The current legal snag arises from the fact the original consent decree had no provision for parents exempting their children.

"The schools have great latitude in what they want to teach, including what's in training programs, and the training is now part of the school curriculum," Esseks says. "Parents don't get to say I don't want you to teach evolution or this, that or whatever else. If parents don't like it they can homeschool, they can go to a private school, they can go to a religious school."

"Where are the parental rights in this whole thing?" asks Rev. Tim York, president of the Boyd County Ministerial Alliance and head of Defenders Voice, a community group formed to contest the decree.

According to the group's website, Defenders Voice "incorporated due to the need for protection of both the physical and mental health of our students and citizens." Its members place blame for their current distress squarely on the ACLU:

"We have seen an onslaught of aggressive homosexual activism sweep across our country. In many cases, these activists are supported by the ACLU in their attempts. ... Defenders Voice believes that an organization like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) should not be allowed to tell parents what their children must learn."

The Alliance Defense Fund, a religious-liberties public-interest legal group, has signed on to help Defenders Voice, pledging to sue the school district unless it adopts an opt-out policy for parents this week. Alliance was formed in 1993 with the guidance of several well-known Christian conservatives, including the late Dr. Bill Bright, the late Larry Burkett, Dr. James Dobson, Dr. D. James Kennedy, and the late Marlin Maddoux.

Joe Platt, a Cincinnati attorney representing Alliance, says mandatory training on tolerance for homosexuals violates the right of conscience of parents and students who believe such behavior immoral.

But school district attorney, Winter Huff, insists to the Courier-Journal the decree does not violate parental rights: "Students certainly have the right to believe in what they want to believe, but they don't have the right to act out in inappropriate ways. The point is you don't treat people disrespectfully, you don't pick on people, you don't bully them, you don't make them afraid to come to school."

Meanwhile, only one of the seven plaintiffs in the 2003 lawsuit still remain in school. Six have graduated, and the teacher-adviser for the Gay-Straight Alliance club asked to transfer to another campus.

The ACLU's Esseks is now questioning whether the mandatory video meets the decree's required hour of anti-harassment training. Like one-third of the students in Boyd County schools, he has yet to view it.


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To: Grampa Dave
"The fact is," he said, "I haven’t yet begun, my feet haven’t even hit the ground." (Romero)

Yeah, they're probably still wrapped around his neck.

161 posted on 11/28/2004 8:33:42 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: Boot Hill; sinanju
This kind of infiltration is not an endeavor that lends itself well to "How To" publications, it is basically done on an OJT basis by a person that can think quickly on his or her feet, and can create opportunities where others see none, and can lie his freakin' head off when the occasion warrants.

One good thing to do is to study some of the Left's own texts. Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky is very good. Some points from his book:

Saul D. Alinsky (1909 - 1967) is the father of modern American radicalism. He developed strategies and tactics that convert the enormous emotional energy of grassroots groups into effective anti-government, anti-institutional, and anti-corporate activism. His ideas are widely taught today as a set of model behaviors and actions, and used with an emotional commitment to victory that goes well beyond those who become his targets.

Grassroots pressure on large organizations will grow. Studying Alinsky's rules and developing empathetic counteractive strategies can level the playing field, especially during high-profile public debate and decision making.

Here are eight of Alinsky's 13 Rules for Radicals. They take advantage of the patterns of weakness, arrogance, repeated mistakes, and miscalculations large organizations and their leadership make:

  1. Power is not only what you have, but what the target thinks you have.

  2. Never go outside the expertise of your people. Feeling secure stiffens the backbone.

  3. Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the target. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety, and uncertainty.

  4. Make the target live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter or E-mail gets a reply, send thousands.

  5. Ridicule, especially against organizational leaders, is a potent weapon. There's no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force concessions.

  6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy. They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They'll even suggest better ones.

  7. Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new tactics to keep the opposition off balance. As the target masters one approach, hit them with something new.

  8. Pick the target. Target an individual, personalize the attack, polarize and demoralize his/her supporters. Go after people, not institutions. Hurting, harassing, and humiliating individuals, especially leaders, causes more rapid organizational change.

This sampling of Alinsky's rules illustrates why opposition groups enjoy opposing and why corporations and institutions fail to win. Simply put, large organizations are never as committed to victory as their opposition is committed to defeating them. There are few surprises here, just unprepared organizations.



* Adapted from Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals by Saul D. Alinsky, copyright 1971, revised edition 1989, Vintage Books, New York


162 posted on 11/28/2004 8:43:21 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: Sun Soldier; All
Going back to what started the whole lawsuit, literally, it was a lack of tolerance to an imposition.

The deception and the clever misuse of words and wording is what I placed the emphasis on.

"Tolerance" and/or to "tolerate" lays on the onus on those who do not believe that homosexuality is a normality. In other words, it implies that we are the ones at fault is we refuse to accept homosexuality as a normality.

An "imposition" on the other hand, or to "impose" their beliefs on society lays the burden on those who do the imposing. In other words, "to bring about by force" because we are an unwilling party to an agenda to have a deviancy recognized and accepted as a normality.

It is a clever and cunning misuse of the wording meant to further the homosexual agenda. To make homosexuals the victims in this case.

A few years back, homosexuals asked to be left alone. Fine then. Do what you want to do in the privacy of your own home. No one cares and no one wants to know.

How far will we allow society to take this? If someone wants to sit in their own house and drink their own urine and eat their own poop I could care less. If someone wants to do it in front of you or do it at the office cafeteria would you object? Don't they have a right to do it? If you object does that mean you are intolerant? Maybe you have a "poopaphobia"?

The other example I gave was the intentional misuse of the word and term "phobia" to imply that the problem lies with those opposed for whatever reasons to homosexuality.

I don't and I don't know anyone who truly suffers from "homophobia" - and yet this word is commonly used to describe anyone who may be opposed to homosexuality for whatever the reason may be. The implication because of the wording implies that anyone opposed to homosexuality then suffers from a psychosis or irrational fear.

There are those who practice many deviant sexual practices and they need to be accepted and recognized as a deviancy.

There are those who have sex with animals and I like many others find it disgusting and perverted. I am unwilling to accept it as a normality so does that make me intolerant? Does it make me a "beastaphobe".

I am surely not "afraid" of someone screwing the pooch. Nor do I fear two butt pirates who have an overwhelming desire to impale each other in the unholiest of holes

If I am unwilling to accept these things as a normality, that is my right and the case is closed. If homosexuals or their supporters continue to try to force my acceptance of their behaviour as a normality on either myself or society through whatever means then it becomes an clearly an imposition.

163 posted on 11/28/2004 8:48:32 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Here are eight of Alinsky's 13 Rules for Radicals. They take advantage of the patterns of weakness, arrogance, repeated mistakes, and miscalculations large organizations and their leadership make: 


1 Power is not only what you have, but what the target thinks you have. 

2 Never go outside the expertise of your people. Feeling secure stiffens the backbone. 

3 Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the target. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety, and uncertainty. 

4 Make the target live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter or E-mail gets a reply, send thousands. 

5 Ridicule, especially against organizational leaders, is a potent weapon. There's no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force concessions. 

6 A good tactic is one your people enjoy. They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They'll even suggest better ones. 

7 Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new tactics to keep the opposition off balance. As the target masters one approach, hit them with something new. 

8 Pick the target. Target an individual, personalize the attack, polarize and demoralize his/her supporters. Go after people, not institutions. Hurting, harassing, and humiliating individuals, especially leaders, causes more rapid organizational change. 

The Rainbow Revolution? Is the Orange Revolution in Ukraine a part of this rainbow?

164 posted on 11/28/2004 8:53:09 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: Old Professer

Or one of his lover's necks!


165 posted on 11/28/2004 8:53:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: sinanju

"Cindy you want to lose a public debate with these people just start quoting scripture."

===
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Thank you for your feedback sinanju.

I am a CHRISTian.
A CHRISTian is a follower of CHRIST.
I don't debate CHRISTianity.

I am never embarrassed to be a Christian
or when quoting scripture.

Smiling...I may never be popular, but that's
the way it goes.

God bless you.


166 posted on 11/28/2004 8:55:29 AM PST by Cindy
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To: DBeers
I would put the homosexual agenda on the same footing as the tobaco lobby. Smoking will never be outlawed; however, do not suggest it natural, acceptable, safe, or attempt to 'sell' it to children -- etcetera, etcetera

Using statistics for gay life expectancy, the gay lifestyle is far more lethal than a four-pack-a-day cigarette habit

167 posted on 11/28/2004 8:55:56 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: All
       Homosexuality and Schools

Year

      Title
Posted
On FR



2004 
Gay Students Force New Look at Homecoming Traditio Yes
  When most of your school is gay Yes
  'Gay-straight' clubs in schools anger foes Yes
  Toronto School Children Forced to Endure Homosexua Yes
  Parents, Pro-Family Leaders Condemn Schools Cross- Yes
  What They're Teaching Johnny Yes
  Boy sexually assaulted by six-year-old classmate i Yes
  'Sex Manual' for 12 Year Old School Children has N Yes
  Sex crimes may be starting younger N/A
  Josh is taking Matt to the prom Yes
  ACLU to monitor Boyd's compliance Yes
  Teacher has kids tasting flavored condoms Yes
  Homosexual Activists Left Speechless Yes
  University Establishes Scholarship for Black Homos Yes
  Same-Sex 'Marriage' Goes to School N/A
  Sex Ed and Cooties Yes
  Teachers Urged to Ignore GLSEN's Marriage Curricul Yes
  There's No Place Like Home Yes
  6th Grader Discovers His Gay Teacher's Webpage Yes
  Group pushes homosexuality acceptance for toddlers Yes
  Homosexual teacher tells class: I'm married Yes
  Gay Activist Groups Promote Gender Confusion Yes
  Parents of first-grade girl angered by children's N/A
  K-12 academy hosts 'Queer State of the Union' Yes
  Reading, Writing and ... Homosexuality? Yes
  The Top 20 Skirmishes in the Battle Over Homosexua N/A
2003 
Hurricane GLSEN Yes
  TFP Student Action: Standing up for God's Law Yes
  Judge: Excluding anti-'gay' view at school forum t Yes
  Workshop offered for gay, lesbian parents Yes
  Woman Coach Jailed For Sex With Fla. Students Orde Yes
  When Sex Ed Becomes Porn 101 Yes
  When Education Becomes Indoctrination Yes
  What 'gay' Student Clubs Will Bring to your School Yes
  The Education Establishment And The Homosexual Age Yes
  The Deception and Desensitization of America's You Yes
  Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Difference Yes
  Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Yes
  A Checklist to Assess Your School's Risk for Encou N/A
  Taking on the lefties in Berkeley Yes
  Support no certainty for gay teachers Yes
  Study Reveals AIDS Virus Ravaging NC College Campu Yes
  Students seek sex in campus bathrooms Yes
  Students' kiss not just a kiss Yes
  Students get sex-ed without parents OK Yes
  Students explore lesbian, gay issues N/A
  Schools/Parents Warned About Homosexual Mentors fo Yes
  SCHOOL'S 'OUT' N/A
  Queering the Schools Yes
  Public Schools Face Growing Demands From Gay Activ No
  Pedophiles in prep schools No
  Parents say no to 'gay' agenda in schools Yes
  Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate' Yes
  No Sympathy for the Devil Yes
  No. Carolina Pastor Goes to Battle Against GLSEN Yes
  New York sued over 'gay' high school Yes
  NEA 'Gay Axis' Becomes Evident Yes
  MTV show to feature Dallas gay school N/A
  Lesbian couple protests school's decision Yes
  Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex No
  How to Keep GSA's Out of your Child's School No
  How to be gay 101 N/A
  'Heterosexism' Under Attack in Canada Yes
  GLSEN and Its Influence on Children No
  Gay Teens' Rich Milk Shakedown Yes
  Gay Crime Syndicate? Yes
  Gay couple protests after Catholic school denies d Yes
  Focus Changed at Fistgate This Year; Less Raw Sex No
  Fistgate to be Held Again on March 15 [2003] Yes
  Family Group Cautions Schools on Homosexual Mentor Yes
  Court upholds firing of teacher who was NAMBLA mem Yes
  Conservatives Warn Parents about Homosexual 'Day o Yes
  Children at Risk: GLSEN, Corruption and Crime No
2002 
Unsafe at Any Grade N/A
  The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality No
  Schools Could Be Sued For Teaching About Homosexua No
  Schoolkids told to consider oral sex N/A
  Research Group Warns Schools of Homosexual Propaga Yes
  Queer Radicals group to initiate change in campus Yes
  Parental Notification Laws regarding Gay and Lesbi N/A
  NJ High School Library Creates Homosexual Section N/A
  NEA And GLSEN Seek To Stifle Free Speech No
  'Making Schools Safe' Means 'Refashioning Values' No
  Institutionalized Heterosexism in Our Schools N/A
  'Gay' orthodoxy prevails in academia? Yes
  Gay Activists Training Teachers in Special Curricu No
  From Tolerance to Affirmation: One School's Experi No
  Challenging the Homosexual Fury In Our Government Yes
  Canada OKs pro-'gay' books for kids Yes
  Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexu N/A
2001 
Students learn sex toy safety Yes
  (Gay) School Days No
2000 
Vermont parents protest harassment of students by No
  Homosexual rights group makes inroads in U.S. scho N/A
  Gay School Teacher Initially Booked with Almost 40 N/A
  Fistgate No
  California schools' new curriculum Yes
1999 
Homosexuality Propaganda: Coming To a School Near N/A
  Homosexual Activism Reaches into Schools No
  Hate Laws Fuel Homosexual School Agenda No

168 posted on 11/28/2004 9:03:37 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Sun Soldier
"District Officials" then settled with the ACLU to allow meetings and, implement the "tolerance" training. Sounds like they (officials) made a deal with the devil that they can't keep (because parents threw the BS flag). The parents should be equally upset with their elected officials.

Consider the possibility that the officials are on the ACLU side, and deliberately "took a dive" in the suit, to accomplish via the courts something they could not accomplish otherwise

169 posted on 11/28/2004 9:03:41 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: All
Information for Parents

Targeting Children, Part 1: How the gay movement intends to capture the next generation

Targeting Children, Part 2: How the homosexual movement uses public schools as instruments of change

Targeting Children, Part 3: Activists encouraging experimentation

Targeting Children, Part 4: Access to children: homosexuality and molestation


170 posted on 11/28/2004 9:10:24 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Cindy

Great post, and great profile page, Cindy.


171 posted on 11/28/2004 9:12:49 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: All

Check this out from Defenders Voice:

http://www.defendersvoice.net/facts.htm

"If a parent objects to a student’s participation in a particular student activity, any disagreement between the parent and the student shall be resolved by the parent and the student without the involvement of the school district or its employees. The school district shall neither encourage nor discourage a student from participating in the Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA) based on parental opposition. Note that Kentucky Revised Statue Chapter 530.070 states that , “A person is guilty of unlawful transaction with a minor in the third degree when he persistently and knowingly induces, assists or causes a minor to disobey his parent or guardian."

So if a parent tells his kid not to go to the training session, and the state law backs him up, why are these kids being forced to do so?


172 posted on 11/28/2004 9:13:12 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: patriot_wes

I'd be interesting to be a fly on the wall of the Kentucky shop class that had to watch that. O_o


173 posted on 11/28/2004 9:13:27 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: JohnHuang2

Sick to my stomach...


174 posted on 11/28/2004 9:16:45 AM PST by houeto (If TROP proclaims Jesus a prophet, how do they deal with John 14:6?)
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To: Sun Soldier

They might have simply lacked the resources to fight something like this. The ACLUs multimillions and flesh-eating lawers would be a sledgehammer compared to the fly of a defense that a school district in a poor rural area could put up.


175 posted on 11/28/2004 9:17:29 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ladylib

Tort reform needs to extend to halting these ACLU legal extortion suits. They only serve to intimidate via "how deep are your pockets."


176 posted on 11/28/2004 9:20:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Sixgun Symphony

Exactly right, conservative judges are the way to fight the ACLU and the only reaon to vote GOP. Let's hope the GOP does not back stab us (again) on the issues of appointing conservative judges.


177 posted on 11/28/2004 9:32:44 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Lancey Howard

bttt


178 posted on 11/28/2004 9:52:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JohnHuang2
I don't understand where this lawsuit came from to begin with.

If the tape is not appropriate, I don't see how it can specifically be required watching. This is not the government mandating its schools to meet particular guidelines but some legal stick-up!

In theory, a level of "tolerance training" is appropriate in any good faith effort to prevent hazings and so forth of certain groups of students. But this tape may not be the best way of doing it. I'm at a loss to understand how the ACLU can demand a particular tape be shown. Can we sue to have "Silent Scream" shown in public school's sex ed?

This is a troubling case.

179 posted on 11/28/2004 9:52:49 AM PST by newzjunkey ("The rule of law has become confused with - indeed subverted by - the rule of judges." - Robert Bork)
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To: JohnHuang2

Bump to the top a few times for the morning crew.


180 posted on 11/28/2004 9:53:14 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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