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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 27, 2004 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

About the Writer: Barbara is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/

Barbara receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com


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To: William Terrell
"Nuconvert". Does that mean you have converted to Islam?"

No. But it's always amusing that because I defend a people's right to peacefully practice their religion and expose prejudice and bigotry, that people question if I am "one of them".

201 posted on 11/28/2004 7:20:25 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

>"It all depends on what part of holy texts you want to emphasize."<

Blind Eye,
There are hundreds of thousands of verses that pertain to the advocation of violence in the Islamic religion. The thrust of Islam is violence.

The thrust of Christianity is peace. Violence was NOT advocated by Jesus, and the fact that he drove the money changers out of the temple? He didn't harm them physicaly, in any way. Look it up.

In the case of Muhammad, he killed and tortured his enemies on a regular basis. Here is one such instance where he had some ex-Muslims (unbelievers) hands and feet cut off, then he poked out their eyes with red hot spikes:



Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 261:

-"Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them....

...and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off.

Then he (Muhammad) ordered for nails, which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died."




Dennisw; I know you know all this info on the subject, but I disagree with you on one point: Muhammad started out preaching Christianity only as a vehicle to conquer the the various tribes, and bring them into his control. The only peaceful verses in the Quran are those that are in fact stolen from the Old Testament.

The Quran is a jumbled up mess of scriptures, difficult to translate from it's Arabic, and is in fact doctored and altered in mny cases.



Blind Eye;
Here are some links to stories and documentation from some ex-Muslims, who know what it's all about. I'll take the words of those who were in the religion, whose families were in the religion, and have lived their entire existence in the Muslim culture, over someone who merely knows a few Muslims, and therefore thinks they know something about Islam. Ibn Warraq and Dr. Ali Sina are both Arab experts on Islam, as they grew up in the Islamic world. You, my FRiend, did not.
Regards


Dr Ali Sina; "Why I left Islam"
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm


Ibn Warraq: "Why I am Not A Muslim"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/549787/posts



http://www.prophetofdoom.net/



Ibn Warraq: "The Totalitarian Nature of Islam"

http://www.secularislam.org/humanrights/totalitarian.htm

"Bolshevism combines the characteristics of the French Revolution with those of the rise of Islam." "Marx has taught that Communism is fatally predestined to come about; this produces a state of mind not unlikethat of the early successors of Mahommet." Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism. Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual, concerned to win the empire of this world." ~ Russell

Ibn Warraq:
"Perhaps it was Charles Watson who first described Islam as totalitarian in 1937, and proceeded to show how: "By a million roots, penetrating every phase of life, all of them with religious significance, it is able to maintain its hold upon the life of Moslem peoples. "Bousquet, one of the foremost authorities on Islamic Law, distinguishes two aspects of Islam which he considers totalitarian: Islamic Law, and the Islamic notion of Jihad which has for its ultimate aim the conquest of the entire world, in order to submit it to one single authority. We shall consider jihad in the next chapter, here we shall confine ourselves to Islamic Law.

Islamic Law has certainly aimed at "controlling the religious, social and political life of mankind in all its aspects, the life of its followers without qualification, and the life of those who follow tolerated religions to a degree that prevents their activities from hampering Islam in any way"



202 posted on 11/28/2004 8:48:37 AM PST by FBD
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To: nuconvert

>"But it's always amusing that because I defend a people's right to peacefully practice their religion and expose prejudice and bigotry, that people question if I am "one of them"."<

Nuconvert,
It would be nice to see you defend the rights of EX-Muslims, (those who have chosen to no longer practice this "religion"), as vociferously as you defend those who are still in this mindlessly violent, brainwashed death cult.
Regards


Dr Ali Sina; "Why I left Islam"
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm


The Totalitarian Nature of Islam, By Ibn Warraq:
http://www.secularislam.org/humanrights/totalitarian.htm

Ibn Warraq: "Why I am Not A Muslim"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/549787/posts



203 posted on 11/28/2004 9:14:56 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

I defend anyone's right to practice the religion of their choice.


204 posted on 11/28/2004 9:53:56 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: dennisw
"There is no command in the Bible to emulate (or copy) the life of Jesus Christ."

You should read the Bible without the coke bottle glasses because it does say: "Be imitators of me as I am of Christ" 1Cor 1:11; "I urge you, then, be imitators of me" 1Cor 4:16; "imitate of God as beloved children" Eph 5.1; "Brethren, join in imitating me, and" Phil 3.17;"you become imitators of us and of the Lord" 1Thess 1.6.

Oh, if my eye offends thee... pluck yours out so you may not see me. Judging on your take of scripture maybe you've already done it!
205 posted on 11/28/2004 10:25:09 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: nuconvert
Whether they "labor" or not, and whether you think it "cannot be interpreted otherwise", means nothing. The fact is, they DO.

So what if they DO? Anyone can interpret anything to mean anything they want. The plain words they "interpret", they labor to do so. The interpretation they DO use is contrary to the entire teaching of the Koran, therefore they who do the interpreting make themselves infidels by the very word of the prophet.

206 posted on 11/28/2004 10:41:55 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

"they who do the interpreting make themselves infidels by the very word of the prophet."

So What? You seem to be hung-up on whether someone meets your definition of what a muslim shoud be. They practice according to the beliefs of their particular sect.
If people want to believe in snake-handling in their church, that's their business.


207 posted on 11/28/2004 10:51:49 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert
But it's always amusing that because I defend a people's right to peacefully practice their religion and expose prejudice and bigotry, that people question if I am "one of them".

Those who "peacefully" practice their religion of Islam are not following their holy book and that makes them infidels by the criteria and commands of the prophet as recorded in the Koran.

If you defend their actions, you may as well be one of them.

Play close attention: a "moderate" Muslim is not a follower of Islam. A follower of Islam MUST obey the words of the prophet vis a vis Islam's goal and means toward that goal for the world and the religion of others. The words of the prophet are clear, unambiguous and any "interpretation" otherwise cannot be made and keep any kind of credibility with those written words.

Do you understand? The people you are defending are not Muslim, by definition.

Since you are a "nuconvert", what are you newly converted to?

208 posted on 11/28/2004 10:54:23 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

"a "moderate" Muslim is not a follower of Islam."

You will have to convince the moderate imams and their muslim followers of that. You can start with the sufis.


209 posted on 11/28/2004 11:00:30 AM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Cronos

Don't forget that we have two islamicc pit vipers as 'allies' -- Pakistan and Saudi A
=====
Close, but no cigar. Which is to say, it's NOT "allies" ... it's "ALL LIES" (credit goes to Koran instructions regarding Allah's proven devious method for defeating pig-fat soaked Infidels) !!!


210 posted on 11/28/2004 11:05:18 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: nuconvert; William Terrell
"a "moderate" Muslim is not a follower of Islam."

You will have to convince the moderate imams and their muslim followers of that. You can start with the sufis.


The true followers of the Koran will convince them of that by slitting their throats.
212 posted on 11/28/2004 11:40:46 AM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: nuconvert; Blind Eye Jones; dennisw

>"I defend anyone's right to practice the religion of their choice."<

- Yeah, I know...and as I said; It's too bad that you don't defend the rights of EX- Muslims as vigorously.
Many ex-Muslims have had their lives threatened for leaving Islam.

I challenge you to refute anything this Ex-Muslim has to say here:

"Why I Left Islam"- By Dr. Ali Sina (excerpt from Link):

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm

- "My rejection of Islam is not based on the bad deeds of the Muslims but on the bad teachings of its holy book and on the bad deeds of its founder. Many cruelties and heinous acts of violence, perpetrated by Muslims throughout the centuries were inspired by the Quran and the Sunnah (the examples of the prophet).

That is why I condemn ISLAM for the bad things that Muslims do. Any effort to humanize Islam is a waste of time. The obstacle to any reform is Quran. The enemy is Islam and that is the target of my attacks. I do that, despite knowing that I have become the magnet of the hatred of fanatical Muslims and my own life could be in danger.

Yet I know that by eradicating Islam we can save the world from the dangers of a catastrophe that otherwise is looming over our heads and could cause more disaster than the 1st and 2nd World Wars combined. Eradication of Islam means restoring peace among humanity and civility, democracy and prosperity in the Muslim world. "

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm

Is Dr Ali Sina a bigot, for condemning Islam?
He was after all- "one of them".

BTW;
I know a man who had his life threatened, when he married a muslim woman. They were living in Egypt at the time. He was told by a friend of her family that there were some Muslims that wanted to kill him. He had to flee for his life.

Defend that.

Regards


213 posted on 11/28/2004 11:51:45 AM PST by FBD
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To: nuconvert; Blind Eye Jones

Muhammad preached peace and tolerance in Mecca for 13 years. After this didn't pan out he moved to Medina (the heijira), had his Allah hallucinations out in the desert, became a psycho killer warlord. And all Muslims are commanded to emulate his life. Which they call the most perfect life ever lived.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:atbchpdw0TkJ:www.faithissues.ca/OtherReligions/Islam/KoranAndTerrorism.asp+mohammed+visions+desert&hl=en&client=firefox

If Mohammed was living today, the Christians would label him as cult leader. There are so many traits of Mohammed that resembles cult leaders today. Mohammed's source of knowledge was from visions that were accompanied by convulsions that were similar to epileptic fits. The man went out of control with his visions. Such a man of uncontrollable convulsions is described by the early church fathers as being demon possessed. How many cult leaders of the last one hundred years have claimed to see visions?


214 posted on 11/28/2004 2:06:26 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: FBD

You can't go wrong with Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and www.jihadwatch.com. They know the story behind the story about Muhammadanism.


215 posted on 11/28/2004 2:09:26 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: FBD

The key to understanding Islam is that all Muslims are commanded to emulate what Islam calls the exemplary life of Muhammad. Would you want to model your life after a man who preached peace when young then turned into a sadistic conquerer who got one fifth of all war booty. Who was a pedophile.


216 posted on 11/28/2004 2:14:01 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: F15Eagle
Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. All well and good, but technically neither the Crusades nor the inquisitiorial religious tribunals had anything to do "Forcing" Catholocism on anyone.
217 posted on 11/28/2004 2:22:07 PM PST by Pelayo
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To: nuconvert
They practice according to the beliefs of their holy book and prophet. If they follow their book and their prophet, they kill people.

I seem to be hung up on the fact that those who "misunderstand" will someday be brought to reality by their brethren and they will either be killed for abandoning Islam (according to the Book) or they will kill.

And that's the truth in a nutshell, bubba. If you think a hammer is a toothpick, you're liable to lose some teeth.

218 posted on 11/28/2004 2:35:32 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: nuconvert
You will have to convince the moderate imams and their muslim followers of that. You can start with the sufis.

There are no moderate imams and their Muslim followers. There are only those who say they are, to keep the infidels off their backs. If the Sufis follow Islam, they have to follow their book and their prophet.

If they don't, they are not Muslims, so you can't call them "moderate" because they are practicing another religion.

219 posted on 11/28/2004 2:41:04 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: FBD

Ex-muslims have the right to practice any religion they choose. I know they're in danger from radical muslims.

"I have become the magnet of the hatred of fanatical Muslims and my own life could be in danger."

I know this very well. I have defended all who speak out, whether they are still muslim or not.

If you don't know, I closely follow DcotorZIn's Daily Iranian Alert Thread. I know very well the dangers and brutality wrought by muslim extremists. I have never defended violence within islam.


220 posted on 11/28/2004 2:43:05 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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