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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 27, 2004 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

About the Writer: Barbara is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/

Barbara receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com


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161 posted on 11/27/2004 7:52:58 PM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: Diplomat

"'For example, in the Bible, Jesus talked about being a warrior...'
Care to quote an actual passage from the New Testament?"

The passage is:

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set man against father..." Matthew 10.34

This seem warrior like.


162 posted on 11/27/2004 8:02:05 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones
I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not Deuteronomy. You claimed, "Jesus talked about being a warrior," I missed that in my readings and only sought evidence or refutation of this claim.
163 posted on 11/27/2004 8:05:41 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: nuconvert
Howdi nuconvert!

Nice to be here and read yours and everybody's views!!!

Great debate and I appreciate your thoughts, support and welcome to FR!
164 posted on 11/27/2004 8:10:44 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Salem

I think they can hear us now. Thanks for that!


165 posted on 11/27/2004 8:14:34 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Any bloody acts in the Bible occurred in the past and were spoken of as in the past. Service to God by way of our fellow man is taught in the past as it is now.

Islam records bloody acts in the past and teaches that they be replicated now and in the future. Their service to God is by repeating the past in disservice to their fellow man. This is the word of the Koran.

166 posted on 11/27/2004 8:38:27 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: dennisw
"Muhammad preached very nice ideas when his movement was weak. The latter part of his life was that of an assassin, murderer and warlord. The "nice" Muslims you meet are in denial about the part of Muhammad's life as a mass killer. They will tell you Muhammad only fought wars of self defense."

This reminds me of the duality between God of fear in the old testament and Jesus (God of love) in the new testament. Obviously, we play up the new testament over the old. The murdering of nations and all the blood letting and sacrificing was a fitting practice for the waring God of the old testament. Ironic, that if you compare the Christian & Jewish God with Mohammad, their qualities are inversed through time: Jesus ended up being good whereas Mohammad ended bad. But I'm sure that "nice" Christians don't want to get hung up on the early side of God's nature. Therefore, I think that with both Islam and Christianity it is all a question of what should be emphasized. Both religions have a dark past and if we can get beyond that... great!
167 posted on 11/27/2004 9:10:37 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: William Terrell
I agree. For me it should come down to emphasizing the good in man. As one poster pointed out, Muhammad started out being somewhat decent. I think that is what should be emphasized over the bad qualities. And maybe it is that way for mainstream Muslims... I hope so.
168 posted on 11/27/2004 9:31:40 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Diplomat

Isn't the passage I posted some kind of evidence to the claim? Sorry if there is confusion.


169 posted on 11/27/2004 9:34:46 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: GeekDejure
BRAVO!!! I could not have said it better myself...from your mouth (or typing fingers!) to God's ears and to all of mankind's as well.

There was a time I believed that perhaps Islam was truly a peaceful religion that some bad people were using and abusing, but then I started to research it. The more I read, the more I became aware that there is nothing peaceful about Islam. Are there Muslim's who are peace loving people? No doubt...but the tenets of the religion are nothing of the sort.

170 posted on 11/27/2004 9:36:00 PM PST by blinachka
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To: F15Eagle
The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Huh? From the sounds of Tony Blair and Chirac they seem to be saying "how quickly can we surrender to them"?

171 posted on 11/27/2004 9:39:04 PM PST by montag813
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To: Blind Eye Jones; nuconvert; dennisw

Those words of Jesus about a sword,(Matt 10;34) were a metaphor for the division that comes between Christian believers, and non-believers. Jesus never advocated violence, in either word or deed.

All religions should be judged by the words and deeds of their founders.

In the case of the founder of the Christian religion, Jesus never harmed anyone, and the documentation to his peaceful, kind and loving nature is abundantly supported throughout the New Testament. In fact, Peter cut off the ear of a soldier with a sword, when they came to get Jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter, and then healed the man's ear.

The documentation that Muhammad was extremely violent, is also well documented.
In the "Hadiths" ("deeds of the Prophet") - It is documented that Muhammad was a murdering pirate, who raped, pillaged, and yes...tortured and beheaded his enemies. In one descriptive account, one of his followers slit open the belly of a pregnant woman, because she was mocking the "prophet" Muhammad. Muhammad condoned this double murder, just as he condoned countless other acts of barbarism.


Of course, there are peaceful Muslims:
those that do not follow the teachings of Muhammad.
Yes, there are violent Christians as well; those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

Anyone who denies the realties of what has been going on in the Islamic religion since it's inception, by pointing out that there are some non-violent muslims, is merely engaging in multi-cultural schitzophrenia.

Regards




172 posted on 11/27/2004 9:40:01 PM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

So say I.


173 posted on 11/27/2004 11:09:31 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
This reminds me of the duality between God of fear in the old testament and Jesus (God of love) in the new testament. Obviously, we play up the new testament over the old. The murdering of nations and all the blood letting and sacrificing was a fitting practice for the waring God of the old testament. Ironic, that if you compare the Christian & Jewish God with Mohammad, their qualities are inversed through time: Jesus ended up being good whereas Mohammad ended bad. But I'm sure that "nice" Christians don't want to get hung up on the early side of God's nature. Therefore, I think that with both Islam and Christianity it is all a question of what should be emphasized. Both religions have a dark past and if we can get beyond that... great!

Your silly post cannot negate the fact that all Muslims are called upon to emulate, to copy, the exemplary life of Muhammad. No one is commanded to copy the life of King David, or Moses or anyone in the (Tanach) Old Testament. There are many important figures in the Old Testament. What should warn you off immediately is that Muhammad is the only figure of importance in the Koran. Because the Koran is one big ego trip of Muhammad with the Allah of his delusions there to provide divine sanction to Muhammad's crimes and bloodletting. 

Muslims are supposed to copy Muhammad's life, no ifs, ands or buts. Mohamed beheaded captives in order to terrorize and conquer. Thus today's Jihadists do the same.  Muhammad beheaded 700 males of a Jewish tribe and made their women into sex slaves. After the Battle of the Trench Mohammed expelled most of the Jewish tribes from the city of Medina and Mohammed had all six to eight hundred adult male members of the Qurayza tribe beheaded.  

The Koran is a mishmash that's not even in chronological order. It has no comparison to the New or Old Testament but go right ahead and knock yourself out. Same as many Muslims do. It's amusing to watch them also claim Allah is the same as the God of the Bible.

 

174 posted on 11/28/2004 12:58:25 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: FBD
"Jesus never advocated violence, in either word or deed."

What about driving the money lenders from the temple... that was a deed.

"All religions should be judged by the words and deeds of their founders."

The words and deeds of the founders of both religions have been bloody. If Jesus is the same God of the old testament this surely is the case. And Christians don't merely stop at the loving and forgiving God of the new testament but often refered to characters or events in the old testament to justify their wars amongst themselves, eg., escaping the land of the Pharaohs or crushing the Canaanites, etc. As I said before, even the devil can use scripture for his own purposes.

It all depends on what part of holy texts you want to emphasize.
175 posted on 11/28/2004 1:08:28 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: FBD
Of course, there are peaceful Muslims:
those that do not follow the teachings of Muhammad.
Yes, there are violent Christians as well; those that do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

The Koran cannot be all evil. Muhammad taught peace and tolerance in his younger years in Mecca where he failed to attract more than 100 followers in 13 years of preaching.  But the later murderous Jihadist teachings came when Mohammed based himself in Medina and take scriptural precedence over the Meccan teachings which appear as the Meccan verses in the Koran

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176 posted on 11/28/2004 1:16:01 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

As I said before, even the devil can use scripture for his own purposes........


You are. LOL!


177 posted on 11/28/2004 1:16:58 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
And Christians don't merely stop at the loving and forgiving God of the new testament but often refered to characters or events in the old testament to...

Once more for those in the cheap seats. No one is commanded to slavishly emulate any figure in the Old or New Testament. The Koran commands Muslims to slavishly copy the life of Muhammad. And what a life it was. A life of bloodletting and cruel conquest. Many Arabians would not have joined Mohamed's army if not for the plunder, booty and female sex slaves. Muhammad got 20% of all booty. 

Mohamed hit the big time as a brigand, a raider of caravans. His Jihad wars to spread Islam were just a continuation of this

178 posted on 11/28/2004 1:23:28 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
Aren't Christians suppose to emulate Christ who is still the very same God of the old testament with a violent history? Unless God has reformed, went to anger management and had a change of heart, this contradiction should be apparent. But all too often when Christians want to wage wars they will see themselves in terms of the old testament. That hoary God becomes very appealing and Biblical imagery will lend itself to the ultimate desire of conquering the enemy. In these cases Christians do emulate, copy and maybe even try to out do the moral and destructive force of this old God. Don't kid yourself in thinking that Christians will only emulate his loving afterthought (Jesus) made manifest as man. Jesus was great but in times of war he is not the poster child that will rally the troops. Of coarse this is all silly and what discussion of religion doesn't eventually become a tad absurd. Still, people will imitate whatever they want to get their own way and my point was simply... they have a choice.
179 posted on 11/28/2004 2:10:24 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Please understand:
There is no command in the Bible to emulate the life of Jesus Christ.
But the Koran commands all believers to emulate the life of Muhammad

You are fruitlessly comparing apples to oranges. You are doing the same as many liberals do, looking at Islam through liberal Christian glasses.


180 posted on 11/28/2004 2:47:36 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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