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8,099 of Cuyahoga County's (Cleveland) 24,472 provisional ballots ruled invalid
The Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | November 23, 2004 | Diane Solov

Posted on 11/23/2004 5:09:41 AM PST by oberon01610

"The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections voted Monday to reject one out of three of the 24,472 provisional ballots cast in the Nov. 2 election.

The bulk of the 8,099 invalidated ballots were determined to have been cast by nonregistered voters or registered voters who cast their ballots in the wrong precinct. Voters received provisional ballots at the polls on Election Day if their names did not appear on the voter rolls...

As county elections workers stood watch over a hand truck bearing 10 boxes stuffed with invalidated ballots, an ensemble of lawyers, professors and others who were active in voter registration drives made it clear that the board's decision won't quell the lingering disquiet about the possibility that some legitimate votes won't be counted...

"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins, a neurosciences professor at Case Western Reserve University who volunteered for the Greater Cleveland Voter Registration Coalition."

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bush; county; cuyahoga; election; ohio; provisional; w
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I see from the article that the tin foil hat brigade is already spinning this as further proof that the election was stolen. I'm sure that tonight the two people who watch Olberman will be treated to another diatribe about voter disenfranchisement and promises that other members of the press would get involved if only there was not a news blackout on the subject.
1 posted on 11/23/2004 5:09:41 AM PST by oberon01610
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To: oberon01610
Looks like crack cocaine doesn't buy much, does it?


2 posted on 11/23/2004 5:12:21 AM PST by rdb3 (LoRdZ of the Gen-X Republican Rebellion -- rdb3 "HiP-hOp FReeper")
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To: oberon01610; conspiratoristo; Pontiac; boxerblues; dubyaismypresident; GOP_Lady; DollyCali; ...

NE Ohio pings!


3 posted on 11/23/2004 5:13:43 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: oberon01610

"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered,"

Stuff like that happens all the time....a person can think they are registered to vote, but they aren't due to some kind of error on their part or the county clerk. Sheesh, if I hadn't checked on my voter registration when I did, the same thing would have happened to my vote. The clerk had me down under my maiden name and married name....been married almost 7 years now, so don't know how that happened. Anyway, they tossed my registration without telling me....so I had to re-register to vote. These dems are just so delusional and desperate, they will say and do anything to change the election results.


4 posted on 11/23/2004 5:13:46 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Thank God that President Bush is in the White House for 4 more years!)
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To: oberon01610

Does this mean that we win?


5 posted on 11/23/2004 5:14:08 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: rdb3
Looks like crack cocaine doesn't buy much, does it?

LOL!

6 posted on 11/23/2004 5:15:18 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: fortheDeclaration
We have already won, my friend. A.
7 posted on 11/23/2004 5:15:30 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: oberon01610

8 posted on 11/23/2004 5:16:21 AM PST by Minnesocold ("It takes passion to hate President Bush, not knowledge.")
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To: oberon01610

My God I live in Ohio and did not know we had such and influx of Southern Floridians over the past four years.


9 posted on 11/23/2004 5:17:48 AM PST by Recon Dad (I know the 8099)
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To: oberon01610

I'm surprised it was only 1 out of 3 rejected. That says to me the county elections office has some serious problems if 2 out of 3 provisional ballot voters are properly registered but were for some reason left off the voter rolls.


10 posted on 11/23/2004 5:19:02 AM PST by NEPA
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To: oberon01610

"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered,"

That's why it's called voter fraud and stupidity. If you don't know or care enough to register prior to election day, you don't deserve the right to vote that day or to have your vote counted.


11 posted on 11/23/2004 5:19:47 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: oberon01610

What is wrong with this picture? Let's assume I'm a new person to Cuyahoga County.


IT'S ELECTION DAY. I GO TO VOTE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I'VE MOVED TO THIS DISTRICT. I'M NOT SURE IF I'M VOTING AT THE RIGHT PLACE.

I SEE THAT THERE IS A FIVE HOUR LINE OUTSIDE THE DOORS. DO I:

A. WAIT IN LINE
B. FIND OUT IF THIS IS WHERE I AM SUPPOSED TO BE BEFORE WAITING FIVE HOURS IN LINE
C. COME BACK LATER IN THE DAY, WHEN THE LINE MAY BE A LITTLE SHORTER
D. VOTE IN THE WRONG PRECINCT AND LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT.

ANSWER:B & C ARE CORRECT. BEFORE WAITING IN LINE CHECK FIRST TO SEE IF I'M AT THE RIGHT VOTING SITE.

I'M TOLD THAT THIS IS NOT WHERE I AM SUPPOSED TO VOTE. DO I:

A. LEAVE AND GO HOME
B. GIVE THEM MY ADDRESS SO THEY CAN DIRECT ME TO THE CORRECT POLLING PLACE.

ANSWER: B

Id be interested to know how many of the 8,099 provisional ballots were Kerry votes? Any guesses out there?

nick


12 posted on 11/23/2004 5:20:17 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: oberon01610
...professors and others who were active in voter registration drives made it clear that the board's decision won't quell the lingering disquiet about the possibility that some legitimate votes won't be counted...

How about the lingering disquiet about the possibility that some illegitimate votes will be counted?

"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins, a neurosciences professor...

I find it inconceivable that a supposedly educated man would be so naive regarding human behavior.

I also find it inconceivable that a PhD. professor doesn't have better things to do with his time at the end of a semester. Perhaps Dr. Robbing ride on the gravy train should be cut short so he can find a real job that requires his presence.

14 posted on 11/23/2004 5:23:19 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: fortheDeclaration
This is just further proof that it is over. There was a previous thread that had data that 44 of Ohio's 88 counties had reported and after the provisional and everything if Kerry got every ballot from the rest of the counties (including Cuyahoga) then he would still fall short by about 18,000 votes. When you add these 8,099 to that the best that Kerry could is end up 26,000 votes short.
15 posted on 11/23/2004 5:23:39 AM PST by oberon01610
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"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins, a neurosciences professor at Case Western Reserve University who volunteered for the Greater Cleveland Voter Registration Coalition."

And I find it inconceivable that a person schooled in neuroscience could demonstrate such abject stupidity.

16 posted on 11/23/2004 5:23:53 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: oberon01610
"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins

I find it inconceivable that thousands of people would wait an hour in the pouring rain to honor the opening of the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor. So there, we're even.

17 posted on 11/23/2004 5:26:34 AM PST by randita
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To: NittanyLion

"I find it inconceivable that over 5,000 voters in the county would wait an hour in the pouring rain to vote if they haven't registered," said Dr. Norm Robbins, a neurosciences professor at Case Western Reserve University who volunteered for the Greater Cleveland Voter Registration Coalition."

I guess, professor, it depends on how much you've been paid.

nick


18 posted on 11/23/2004 5:27:04 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: alessandrofiaschi
We have already won, my friend. A.

Good, just checking!

19 posted on 11/23/2004 5:28:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: oberon01610

Provisional ballots are mainly given to people who are not registered to vote in the precinct they are trying to vote in. We had about 12 at our voting precinct where I worked on election day. Only one was counted. People move and forget to change their voter's registration. It was on the news for MONTHS before the election, to make sure you are registered thirty days before the election. My daughter drove home to vote, since she was still registered here. She is a college student. At the Republican HQ we had maps on the wall that showed people where they should vote. One of our volunteers even colored the map with color pencils, to show you where your house is, and where your polling place was. Anyone who was trying to vote, without making sure they were registered, got a provisional ballot. This will put them on the rolls in THAT precinct for the next election. That was the main thing we were doing with prov. ballots, getting the people registered for the next election. We required photo ID.


20 posted on 11/23/2004 5:29:02 AM PST by buffyt (~It is not a choice ~ It is a CHILD!~)
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