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Third of Americans Say Evidence Has Supported Darwin's Evolution Theory
Gallup.com ^ | 11/19/04 | Gallup

Posted on 11/19/2004 10:40:08 AM PST by jcsmonogram

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- Some 145 years after the publication of Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species, controversy about the validity and implications of his theory still rages. Darwin personally encountered much resistance after his book was published in 1859. Seventy-nine years ago, the famous Scopes Monkey Trial in Tennessee brought the issue of exactly where human beings came from into sharp public focus in the United States. Indeed, as recently as this month, a court case in Cobb County, Ga., dealing with the treatment of evolution and creationism in school textbooks received nationwide publicity. November's National Geographic Magazine asked on its cover: "Was Darwin Wrong?" and then proceeded to devote 33 pages to answering that question.

Darwin might be surprised to find such debate still raging nearly a century and a half after he published his book. He might also be surprised to find that even today there is significantly less than majority agreement from the American public that his theory of evolution is supported by the evidence.

Gallup has asked Americans twice in the last three years to respond to the following question about Darwin's theory:

Just your opinion, do you think that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is –  [ROTATED: a scientific theory that has been well-supported by evidence, (or) just one of many theories and one that has not been well-supported by evidence], or don't you know enough about it to say?

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To: Southack

It might help to point out that when you have access to more than one point of reference, as we have since Galileo (who was forced to recant the truth under pain of death by "Christians"), any ambiguity regarding reference points goes out the window... Plus, that's not really what Einstein was talking about :-P.

We can tell the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth, because if it did, it would be impossible to explain the movement of the other planets, and our changing orientations with the stars throughout the year.


81 posted on 11/19/2004 12:07:11 PM PST by cwd26
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To: Socrates1
it does mean that portions of it MAY BE wrong.

There's no question about it. Portions of Newton's "law" of gravity are wrong, too, but that doesn't mean there is no such thing as gravity.
82 posted on 11/19/2004 12:07:36 PM PST by clyde asbury (Hope this is what you wanted. Hope this is what you had in mind, because this is what you're getting)
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To: cwd26

see my post 70. :-)


83 posted on 11/19/2004 12:09:32 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: mulligan

I have faith in science, based on method and reasoning, as the path to truth. You, apparently, find it useless.

Anything worth knowing has already been spelled out, after all. How much faith did Galileo need?


84 posted on 11/19/2004 12:10:14 PM PST by cwd26
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To: BillT

"The biggest reason is that if Darwin is correct then Jesus lied, which is impossible as he is God and knows everything."


A. Jesus is the Son of God.

B. Since this thread involves science, I'd ask how you can be 100% sure of your certainty that God knows everything. You must make your case without referring to words written by humans in a book.


C. Finally, since nothing is impossible with God, we have a conundrum here...


85 posted on 11/19/2004 12:12:19 PM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Socrates1
So your point about well established belief is ....??

A well-established belief is one in which there is a consensus among those with informed opinions.

Those who belive in a flat earth today are - flatly speaking - irrational on this particular topic.
86 posted on 11/19/2004 12:12:22 PM PST by clyde asbury (Hope this is what you wanted. Hope this is what you had in mind, because this is what you're getting)
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To: montag813
Why are people of faith so afraid of Darwin? I fail to see how it is incompatible with belief in God.

In the beginning, God created man ...

In the beginning God created man, and per the creationists, he has be devolving ever since. Life spans are shorter, we are not as smart or as healthy as when we had the "more perfect" gene set that God gave us. It is all opposite to their concept of evolution.

Besides, they just can't get over the concept that the earth is older than 10k years, that the earth revolves around the sun and is not the center of the universe. OTOH, most are coming around to the fact that the earth is round.

87 posted on 11/19/2004 12:13:15 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: montag813
I fail to see how it is incompatible with belief in God.

evolution is a belief that species evolve to become other specieds. (there is no proof of this, but that is besides the point.) evolution states that man evolved from some other form of animal; the bible states that man was created in god's own image, without going through any "interim" stages. that therein lies the incompatibility.

88 posted on 11/19/2004 12:13:16 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: b2stealth
I want to see some "overwhelming evidence"!

there is no evidence. nothing that has been presented can pass the "giggle" test.

89 posted on 11/19/2004 12:15:20 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: protest1

Note that rather than murdering in the name of "evolutionary theory" Stalin actually had evolutionista shot. Stalin was actually very anti-Darwin and supported Lysenko instead.


90 posted on 11/19/2004 12:16:12 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: b2stealth
I want to see some "overwhelming evidence"!

I want to see the Red Sox win the World Series. Like that can ever happen.

91 posted on 11/19/2004 12:16:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Socrates1
As I said, portions of Newton's "law" of gravity are wrong, too, but that doesn't mean there is no such thing as gravity.

And anyone who says there is no such thing as gravity is clearly irrational.

Your point was what?
92 posted on 11/19/2004 12:16:39 PM PST by clyde asbury (Hope this is what you wanted. Hope this is what you had in mind, because this is what you're getting)
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To: RichInOC
There are two words that are an absolute refutation of Darwinian theory and those words are... ...James Carville.

to hear dawin followers tell it, james carville is really an amphioxis.

93 posted on 11/19/2004 12:16:59 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Socrates1
The Evolutionists hide behind the Big Bang theory, but can't explain what caused the Big Bang, or what preceded it.

The theory of evolution says absolutely nothing whatsoever about the Big Bang.
94 posted on 11/19/2004 12:17:15 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: bornacatholic
If PETA asserts "facts" about meat, I assume their bias renders their "facts" questionable, at best.

The difference is, of course, that the TOE in no way deals with Christianity nor does it purport to.

Even if Darwin was a child-molesting satanist, that would be completely irrelevant as to whether 150 years of evidence collected on the TOE is persuasive.

95 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:07 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Publius6961

The real question is how many people consider professional wrestling to be real but believe that the moon missions were faked.


96 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:14 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: narby
Obviously, there's plenty of details left out of Genesis that could easly hold Evolution.

I don't doubt for a second that God left out many details, but to think natural selection had anything to do with creation is atheism...period.

That and the fact that this Creationism silliness is harming the conservative cause, as well as making an artificial stumbling block for young people believing in God at all, makes the anti-evolution fight double stupid.

The problem appears to be with your belief system, and not with young people believing in God. Polls show the majority of people believe in God and Creationism, not Darwin.
97 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:34 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Socrates1
That's why is is still a "theory". Newton's Law isn't controversial.

It is a "theory" because it is an attempt to explain a mechanism within the universe. A "Law" describes a generalization about events.

Laws explain what happens. Theories attempt to explain why they happen. Theories never become "laws". One is not a graduation of the other.
98 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:49 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: jcsmonogram

Some people have this all-or-nothing attitude about evolution and like to use this to argue against it. The fact is that there is no scientific theory that is perfect - all theories are approximations that are reasonably consistent with experiemental data thus far obtained. With new data, we adjust and refine the theory. That is how science works. I can't understand for the life of me why people get so worked up about evolution. It is a scientific theory. It is not perfect. It is not final. It is a work in progress and ever will be. If we go back far enough there will always be a big question mark. People need to give God a break and understand that He likes to use imagery and symbolism at times to make things more interesting. Why does 7 days have to be 7 Earth days? Maybe God is working by a different clock.


99 posted on 11/19/2004 12:20:05 PM PST by Avenger
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To: RadioAstronomer

But the Jupiter-Sun system CoM is sometimes just outside the Sun's surface.


100 posted on 11/19/2004 12:20:29 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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