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THE GOOD GUYS VS. THE BAD GUYS
REAL CLEAR POLITICS.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 17, 2004 | JOHN McINTYRE

Posted on 11/17/2004 8:11:54 PM PST by CHARLITE

Islamic terrorists executed 59 year-old Margaret Hassan who had lived in Iraq for thirty years, married an Iraqi and become a citizen herself, and who had devoted her entire life to helping the Iraqi people.

For weeks the terrorists tormented this woman physically and psychologically before putting a bullet through her blindfolded head.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aljazeera; badguys; chrismatthews; fallujah; goodguys; hardball; iraq; margarethassan; msnbc; terrorists
Stunning writing, in my estimation. What an offensive liberal DOLT Chris Matthews really is. He's clueless about what is really happening in this war.
1 posted on 11/17/2004 8:11:54 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

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2 posted on 11/17/2004 8:12:52 PM PST by federal
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To: CHARLITE

Hopefully a short excerpt is okay:

"Another elderly man said......"It was horrible," he told an AFP reporter."We suffered from the bombings. Innocent people died or were wounded by the bombings. "But we were happy you did what you did because Fallujah had been suffocated by the Mujahidin. Anyone considered suspicious would be slaughtered. We would see unknown corpses around the city all the time."


3 posted on 11/17/2004 8:18:05 PM PST by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: CHARLITE

Post on this subject (1.) I think Chris Matthews is having an all-time record meltdown. He, Matthews, used to be known around the airwaves as the tough interrogator news-guy-journalists whatever back when. Like, people would watch closely to see Matthews take somebody apart. His rapid-fire staccato questions and answering for the guests, and so on.
Now....it's like watching an old dog who doesn't know he has arthritis or something, the way he looks into the camera and ....
Matthews truly seems more embarrassed for some reason than Dan Rather does -- or never did....


4 posted on 11/17/2004 8:20:37 PM PST by onyx eyes (....Not having to buy the presidency..... Priceless.)
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To: CHARLITE

"We are fighting a ruthless and evil enemy who wants to enslave the world and throw it back to the dark ages. We are fighting the people who killed 3,000 Americans on September 11, 2001, killed 190 Spaniards going to work last year, and slaughtered hundreds of children going to school in Russia this September."


pretty much sums it up - how can anyone argue with that?


5 posted on 11/17/2004 8:27:04 PM PST by jim-x
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To: CHARLITE
Someone should make matthews (he doesn't deserve a capitol) watch the barbaric videos of the beheadings - and the shooting of the woman who had devoted her life to helping Iraqis, had become a citizen, married to an Iraqi - justify THAT, you dumber than the dumbest...

The jackass is certainly the appropriate mascot for these people...

6 posted on 11/17/2004 8:27:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: CHARLITE

In a perfect world, it would have been Chris Matthews instead of Margaret Hassan who had been taken hostage.

His pompous attitude would have lasted about 15 seconds, as long as it took to crap his pants.

You know, the way he did the night Zell Miller chewed him a new rectal orifice.

It amazes me the way the leftists and their associated America-haters rant and rave about one freakin terrorist who got dispatched by a Marine and his M-16, but they have little or nothing to say about the victims of such terrorists.

I suppose it's all a matter of priorities when you're a liberal. The highest priority goes to whatever makes America look bad, the lowest priority?

ANYthing that has the potential to highlight the basic goodness of the American people and the men and women of honor who serve in our military.


7 posted on 11/17/2004 8:28:03 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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Chrissy Matthews said; If we saw one of them do what we saw our guy do to that guy, would we consider that worthy of a war crimes charge?

What? The terrorists in Iraq, as was just discovered, kidnapped an aid worker, tortured her, murdered her, dismembered her, disemboweled her, and then multilated her corpse some more.

I'd say capture by the terrorists in Iraq is pretty much an automatic death sentence for any American.

This of course is unimportant to the MSM. A soldier shot a wounded terrorist, and this...THIS...is the crime against humanity.

Uh, hello, earth to space cadets...do you remember how John Kerry got one of those medals of his? Remember, chasing down a wounded VC and finishing him off?
8 posted on 11/17/2004 8:29:33 PM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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Post on this subject (2.) Taking into account the events in the Netherlands, in Thailand, and the place no one wants to talk about, in our "politically correct", media.... the Darfur region of the Sudan, Africa, and taking into account the train bombing in Spain, and other recent events, it seems reasonable to think that the statements and actions by the Muslim people, mean they are serious in ridding the world of non-muslim people.

In case you think I exaggerate, it is also becoming apparent and evident, that the ordinary citizens who profess to be of the Islamic/muslim faith, are; some condoning what the terrorists do, and some accepting what the terrorists do, and basically, all of them do not, in anyway we can determine, condemn what the terorists do.


9 posted on 11/17/2004 8:30:48 PM PST by onyx eyes (....Not having to buy the presidency..... Priceless.)
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To: geopyg

"Another elderly man said......"It was horrible," he told an AFP reporter."We suffered from the bombings. Innocent people died or were wounded by the bombings. "But we were happy you did what you did because Fallujah had been suffocated by the Mujahidin. Anyone considered suspicious would be slaughtered. We would see unknown corpses around the city all the time."


I wish the "peace protesters" would hear this. Actually, that's what they ARE protesting...... PEACE!


10 posted on 11/17/2004 8:31:18 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: CHARLITE
Islamic terrorists executed 59 year-old Margaret Hassan

Maybe a world leader told the terrorists to kill Hassan.

Hassan spoke out against the international sanctions imposed on Iraq.

Did she (unwittingly?) know something damning about the oil-for-food scandal.

11 posted on 11/17/2004 8:31:33 PM PST by syriacus (Did Kerry's scare tactics, about folks catching the flu, keep the elderly Democrats from voting?)
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To: onyx eyes

In his little promo he says,:no spin, I asked them questions that they never have thaught about before and make them think on TV. IT is more like I asked them questions that no one in their right mind would think about and then I don't let them answer because I'll shout over their answer. I went to the Lawrence O"donnell school od broadcasting, and I have won every battle except the one with Zell Miller....


12 posted on 11/17/2004 8:33:15 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: CHARLITE

This article is a MUST read. This says it exactly the way I also see it. Too bad our liberal media will relegate it to file 13.


13 posted on 11/17/2004 8:33:22 PM PST by taxesareforever
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Wednesday, November 17 2004
THE GOOD GUYS VS THE BAD GUYS
: Islamic terrorists executed 59 year-old Margaret Hassan who had lived in Iraq for thirty years, married an Iraqi and become a citizen herself, and who had devoted her entire life to helping the Iraqi people.

For weeks the terrorists tormented this woman physically and psychologically before putting a bullet through her blindfolded head.

Al-Jazeera chose not to broadcast the video. Not because it is too graphic - that has never stopped them before and it won't stop them in the future - but because the enablers at Al-Jazeera know that the image of this innocent woman being shot in the head hurts their cause.

But Al-Jazeera has no problem running a constant loop of the tape showing the U.S. Marine shooting a wounded terrorist - with the obvious intent of trying to hurt the USA.

It's bad enough that we have to fight the propaganda machine of Al-Jazeera and the rest of the Arab media, but shouldn't the press in OUR country show a little more judgment and restraint?

I'm not suggesting the US media just accept the Pentagon line carte blanche. But I am suggesting that they refrain from treating these types of events as equivalent in any way. It's bad enough we have to contend with headlines like "Arabs enraged by Marine's shooting" while Hassan's brutal murder gets relegated to the back pages.

Our military has pulled the Marine in question out of action and is investigating the incident, which is exactly what should be done. But every benefit of the doubt had better go to that young man putting his life on the line for our country.

More importantly, no one should forget that the wounded men in the mosque captured on video, including the guy faking to be dead, are EXACTLY the same type of people putting bullets in the head of aid workers and slicing off people heads.

It simply boggles the mind that some people don't get it. Like Chris Matthews, for example, who said this the other day:

If this were the other side, and we were watching an enemy soldier, a rival—I mean, they‘re not bad guys, especially—just people that disagree with it. They‘re in fact the insurgents fighting us in their country. If we saw one of them do what we saw our guy do to that guy, would we consider that worthy of a war crimes charge?

They're not bad guys? The London Times (courtesy of Powerline) reports that the people of Fallujah beg to differ:

Residents who stayed on through last week's offensive were emerging and telling harrowing tales of the brutality they endured. [A] poster in the ruins of the souk bears testament to the strict brand of Sunni Islam imposed by the council, fronted by hard-line cleric Abdullah Junabi. The decree warns all women that they must cover up from head to toe outdoors, or face execution by the armed militants who controlled the streets.

Two female bodies found yesterday suggest such threats were far from idle. An Arab woman, in a violet nightdress, lay in a post-mortem embrace with a male corpse in the middle of the street. Both bodies had died from bullets to the head. Just six metres away on the same street lay the decomposing corpse of a blonde-haired white woman, too disfigured for swift identification but presumed to be the body of one of the many foreign hostages kidnapped by the rebels. Such is the fear that the heavily armed militants held over Fallujah that many of the residents who emerged from the ruins welcomed the US marines, despite the massive destruction their firepower had inflicted on their city.

A man in his sixties, half-naked and his underwear stained with blood from shrapnel wounds from a US munition, cursed the insurgents as he greeted the advancing marines on Saturday night. "I wish the Americans had come here the very first day and not waited eight months," he said, trembling. Another elderly man, who did not want his name used for fear the rebels would one day return and restore their draconian rule, said he was detained by the militants last Tuesday and held for four days before being freed. "It was horrible," he told an AFP reporter."We suffered from the bombings. Innocent people died or were wounded by the bombings. "But we were happy you did what you did because Fallujah had been suffocated by the Mujahidin. Anyone considered suspicious would be slaughtered. We would see unknown corpses around the city all the time."

The same story of arbitrary executions was told by another resident, found by US troops cowering in his home with his brother and his family. "They would wear black masks, carry rocket-propelled grenades and Kalashnikovs, and search streets and alleys," said Iyad Assam, 24. "I would hear stories, about how they executed five men one day and seven another for collaborating with the Americans. They made checkpoints on the roads. They put announcements on walls banning music and telling women to wear the veil from head to toe."

This type of mentality from guys like Matthews that leads to questions with lines like these "aren't bad guys," and these guys are "just insurgents fighting us in their country" is the same kind of mentality that led to Michael Moore taking his seat right next to Jimmy Carter at the Democratic convention.

The Left in this country needs to undertake some serious soul-searching. And when I say the Left I don't just mean the fringe Left, I mean the heart and soul of the national Democratic Party, as represented by their leader in the U.S. House Nancy Pelosi. I mean the mentality of the media elite as represented by Chris Matthews, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather.

We are fighting a ruthless and evil enemy who wants to enslave the world and throw it back to the dark ages. We are fighting the people who killed 3,000 Americans on September 11, 2001, killed 190 Spaniards going to work last year, and slaughtered hundreds of children going to school in Russia this September. These are the people who are desperately searching for the ability to inflict a strike that will make 9/11 look like a good day.

We have a hard enough time trying to convince people like Kofi Annan and Jacques Chirac of the true threat we are facing in Islamic fascism. The last thing we need is a press corps and a good chunk of one of our two major political parties at home who seem, at times, confused about who are the good guys and the bad guys.


14 posted on 11/17/2004 8:36:32 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: nothernlights

Ha ha ha .... you are right on, about Matthews. He went to the Lawrence O'Donnell school of broadcasting, ha ha, and only lost one match and that was with Zell Miller...
Matthews also lost more than that. He had people fooled into thinking he was a middle of the roader for awhile and only came out of the Dim/Lib closet when he was positive sure he had helped win the 2004 election for John Skerry....

Oooops....


15 posted on 11/17/2004 8:38:43 PM PST by onyx eyes (....Not having to buy the presidency..... Priceless.)
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To: CHARLITE

YOu know what Al Jazzpeera is not the Pentagon, that video is not like unobtainable by some enterprising media outfit.It would require only some limited $. The MSM just doesn't want to get the story out at all.


16 posted on 11/17/2004 8:45:52 PM PST by nothernlights
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To: finnman69

Any Freep on for Chris Matthews? That comment was sick. Never heard that and I'll do my part spreading it around.


17 posted on 11/17/2004 9:27:06 PM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: CHARLITE

Crystal clear the monsters.Perhaps it's the culture now with cult facination towards little fake monsters.Jerks go to their safe bed with a head full of crap and don't have a flip for the real abominations.More likely it's a big playground in which countries rose and fell and they never got into that.In their face is everything of detestable murderous actions.This press could have made such an influence and saved many lives yet they seem to want to do 'Nam again.


18 posted on 11/17/2004 10:04:30 PM PST by noodler
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