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THE CULTURE WAR HAS BEGUN
DALEY TIMES-POST.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 9, 2004 | JUSTIN DARR

Posted on 11/14/2004 1:57:35 PM PST by CHARLITE

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To: wardaddy; Dick Vomer
Dick Vomer gets the credit. Use this instead.


41 posted on 11/14/2004 5:15:52 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
I am humbled.... hahahhaaa

That's good work that you've done. you've got to show me or e-mail me about what you did to format it so well.

I love FR and all the pajamahadim like yourself that gives me an outlet. Thanx again.

42 posted on 11/14/2004 5:25:25 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: backhoe
but I believe in live & let live, and minding my own business. At least as far as I can, you do have to draw a line somewhere.

Sounds reasonable. Personally I draw the line pretty far out, don't be hurting some one else, don't make me finance it and don't say that I must give my stamp of approval to it.

The few hard lines I draw fall into those areas for the most part. I know the words have been perverted but I actually do believe in tolerance and diversity in their original meanings. But I expect tolerance for my diversity. And I am not getting it.

43 posted on 11/14/2004 6:01:48 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shall follow your advise to the letter...the day I replace my brain with a cauliflower.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
You may be correct, but at least some of those things you mentioned--crime, bastardy, abortion, and drug use are directly related to and were predicted by, demographics. There are simply less people in the high participation ages, as a percentage. Those don't have much to do with any cultural wins.

In fact, in seeing what little television I watch today, I'd say we are getting sicker. Same with music, especially rap. Just my observations, not chiseled in stone.

44 posted on 11/14/2004 9:14:22 PM PST by jammer
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To: backhoe
It was very simple for me- here's how I explained it to the undecided:

* He says what he means.

* He means what he says.

* He tries to do it.

You may be correct, but I'm having doubts. Does a true Right-to-Lifer intercede in a primary on the side of the baby killer and save his campaign? Does a true fiscal conservative veto absolutely no ridiculous spending bills--or put up a "no-child-left-behind" crap? Does a real believer in national sovereignty allow (and even bless) hordes of illegals entering the U.S.?

Sure, some things he means and stands behind. Some of them he may actually believe, instead of responding to political expedience. It's easy to be for a popular marriage amendment when it has absolutely no chance of passing. It's easy to play both sides on a witless CFR bill. I just no longer have much faith in your three statements.

45 posted on 11/14/2004 9:25:44 PM PST by jammer
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To: Tarl; Clintonfatigued

Actually your analogy of lightning rod was a good one. A lightning rod protects the house from the damage that lightning might cause if the house were hit without one. It safely channels the effect of the lightning to the ground. Bush has done this with the verbal and libelous lightning hurled at him, and thus shielded the house (nation) from its effects, which would have been troubling had he launched similar vituperative attacks in response.


46 posted on 11/14/2004 9:41:04 PM PST by Excuse_Me (I recall, once, the Earth seemed but a hollow nougat, reverberating with the sounds of the big bands)
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To: CHARLITE

"Now, the true face of liberalism is being exposed. Instead of accepting the loss and looking ahead to the next election, liberals have launched into a psychotic paroxysm of rage and insults unseen in American politics since the aftermath of the Civil War." Putting the focus upon the pre-civil war ravings of the slavers might be more to the point. And the irrationality of the left's outbursts attests their bitterness at being exposed for their extremes. How can a political party defend partial birth serial killing of alive, preborn children? Amazing stuff that!


47 posted on 11/14/2004 9:45:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: backhoe

Well and truly said. May I offer a heartfelt DITTO ?


48 posted on 11/14/2004 9:53:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: JoJo Gunn; Dick Vomer

Bump. :)


49 posted on 11/14/2004 10:16:27 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: MHGinTN
May I offer a heartfelt DITTO?

Gratefully accepted- my regards to you, Marvin.

50 posted on 11/15/2004 1:54:05 AM PST by backhoe ("We met at Dawn- and destiny Prevailed...")
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To: CHARLITE
Why is John Kerry not President today

Ah, excuse me, even if he had won, he wouldn't be President today. Bush's 1st term isn't up yet.

51 posted on 11/15/2004 2:01:07 AM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: dufekin
Quite a bit of that "wrong track" rating might have been conservatives fearful that John Kerry was winning.

Likely you've got something there. In any case, that "right track/wrong track" question strikes me as the silliest I've ever heard. There are too many "tracks" going on at once, with too much divergence by state or city. Not to mention the question of who's more likely to slow down or turn around the "wrong track" areas and encourage the "right track" ones. The range of possibilities in how people will understand the question make any total of the answers meaningless.

52 posted on 11/15/2004 2:08:33 AM PST by maryz
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To: CHARLITE
Why is John Kerry not President today?

Because the MSM, the propaganda wing of the Democratic party, no longer holds the monopoly!

53 posted on 11/15/2004 2:17:06 AM PST by Doofer
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To: Trepz
This is especially true of the MSM. Their news casts and headlines will be filled with even more vile accusations about the President and those who voted for his re-election. To do less woud be to acknowledge their failure to succeed in this election. The MSM, in partnership with the dnc, is working to destroy the moral fiber of this nation.

Don't forget ol' Hollyweird ... you're going to see a more intense attack against the "moral family" with heavy propaganda on the TV shows, such as Law & Order showing some half-crazed right-winger going out on some kind of shooting spree because someone is wearing a turban; some "normal" family being prejudiced against a two-daddy or two-mommy family only to be shown to be the raging bigots they "really" are; an increase of shows depicting perverted priests molesting little boys or involved with porn in some way; you'll see more attacks against the Bible believers and Christians, in general; you'll see attacks on the denizens in the Red States that will make the typical depiction of the crazed, drugged-out, murderous and anti-social Viet Nam vet of the 70s seem like a Sunday School lesson.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, the entertainment community is going to unleash a plethora of intolerence and hate that we haven't even imagined.

'Course, I'm not a prophet ... just putting 2 and 2 together, and hoping to come out in the realm of 4, of what I've seen in the past from those "entertainment" freaks and how they love to slam anything that concerns the moral values of the Red States.

54 posted on 11/15/2004 3:37:24 AM PST by Boomer Geezer (Sgt. Wanda Dabbs, 22, of the 230th, called out, "That's my president, hooah!" and there were cheers.)
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To: Jim Noble
We're winning-AND we have all the guns.

Yep!

I was going to say that we have 90% of the ingenuity, 90% of the intelligence, 90% of the firearms, and all the will. They have a bought mainstream media and all the adrenalin that 5 minutes of uncontrolled anger can muster up.

55 posted on 11/15/2004 3:48:41 AM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: loveliberty2
The Pearl Harbor of the Culture War was the 1947 Everson decision by the US Supreme Court.
56 posted on 11/15/2004 4:06:22 AM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: A. Pole
When they tell you that the clock of history cannot be turned back or that it follows the predicted pattern, do not believe it.

This is their greatest weakness, the Marxist faith in the "iron laws of history". The armies of socialism only march in one direction.

From 1932-1978, US election results and this false fixed belief moved in tandem.

Since 1980, and especially since 1994, things haven't been so good.

This has caused all sorts of other, more absurd Marxist "theories" like false consciousness and economic determinism to bubble to the surface.

The fact is, they are losing this country after having it in their reach, and they are suffering from severe cognitive dissonance as a result.

After all, their victory is guaranteed by the "iron laws of history".

57 posted on 11/15/2004 4:14:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: Jim Noble
After all, their victory is guaranteed by the "iron laws of history".

Marx was fixated on the economy and he forgot about the biology. Natural selection eliminates leftists (who abort their own children and indulge in the sexual orientations) very quickly. Each generation half of them dies out.

58 posted on 11/15/2004 5:06:14 AM PST by A. Pole (Col.Guano: I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and your [...]mutiny of preverts.)
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To: Savage Beast

Right ~ we have to eradicate the lunatic left!


59 posted on 11/15/2004 7:17:11 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Dick Vomer; JoJo Gunn

Must see pic in #41.


60 posted on 11/15/2004 11:29:14 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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