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Working on Speech on Illegal Immigration

Posted on 11/07/2004 9:53:36 PM PST by AVNevis

I am working on creating a speech on illegal immigration for a High School Speech contest in the next few weeks. Any good evidence or interesting tidbits with facts to back them up would be appreciated.

Thanks


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; ilegals; illegals
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1 posted on 11/07/2004 9:53:37 PM PST by AVNevis
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To: AVNevis

Kind of a hot topic where you are, huh? Check out plenty of the posts on FR. Run a serch. Do you have an outline yet?


2 posted on 11/07/2004 9:58:01 PM PST by endthematrix (CRUSH ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: endthematrix

Michelle Malkin has worked this topic over.

Check out her website, her blog, her articles, her book


3 posted on 11/07/2004 9:59:28 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: endthematrix
I actually chose the topic because I knew it would be contriversial. I didn't want to give a speech on why we should be harder on criminals, or another easy and usual topic like that.
4 posted on 11/07/2004 10:02:02 PM PST by AVNevis
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To: AVNevis

If you play to the security issue of uncontrolled borders, you should be able to approach the subject of border control without getting your head taken off by any pro immigration people in your audience.

Site the number of people aprehended trying to cross the board each day and make a link to the possibility that the thousands more getting through could very likely include terrorists.

And when giving your speech, remember the basics of the five part essay.

1. Introduction and statement of controlling idea (go with three seperate points releated to immigration).

2. Discussion of point 1.

3. 2. Discussion of point 2.

4. 2. Discussion of point 3.

5. Restate controlling idea and conclusion.


5 posted on 11/07/2004 10:03:15 PM PST by gogov
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To: AVNevis
Cutting edge info concerning Illegal Immigration : american patrol.com
6 posted on 11/07/2004 10:04:13 PM PST by Freesofar ( We got capital....what's in your wallet Ted Kennedy,? credit denied ?)
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To: AVNevis
I admire your courage! Are you planning to focus on you state/local area or national impacts? One thing to add is voting and drivers licenses and can tie that into national security. She away from extremism views, because even a common sense approach is an easy sell and a good start at changing preconceptions.
7 posted on 11/07/2004 10:08:32 PM PST by endthematrix (CRUSH ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: endthematrix

Go here and download Tom Tancredo's speech:

http://stoptheinvasion.com/


8 posted on 11/07/2004 10:12:27 PM PST by Liberalism=MentalDisorder
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To: endthematrix
Both, but probably a little more state simply because of the driver's Licence issue. I am going to try incorperate the driver's licences into the speech somewhere.
9 posted on 11/07/2004 10:13:01 PM PST by AVNevis
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To: AVNevis

Illegals take jobs away from the poorest Americans and depress wages for the poorest Americans.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 10:17:32 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: AVNevis

Please use common sense if using material from the american patrol site. Much of the material is extremist hyperbole'(just my style) and will not be welcome in a school setting, but there may be some useful info there. Some of the info would be seen as "RACIST" by the sensitive.
So please be careful


11 posted on 11/07/2004 10:30:19 PM PST by Freesofar ( We got capital....what's in your wallet Ted Kennedy,? credit denied ?)
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To: AVNevis
We'll, here's a different twist, but something I would be interested in:

Compare and contrast Mexico's current immigration laws (yes, to immigrate TO Mexico) to what Mexico wants our immigration laws to be. After all Vincente Fox is going to start pressuring President Bush for immigration reforms now.

Mexico is pretty lax about letting retirees come in as long as they have a proven monthly income over a certain $ amount, but others have to have some pretty serious cash to invest to be able to qualify for residency and to work much less citizenship.

But the U.S. is considering granting guest worker status to 8 million Mexicans who broke the law to get here? And there is one measure in Congress to give 500,000 illegals residency and another to allow immigrant students to pay the same tuition as citizens.

It's a different twist on a really good topic.

Good luck! Let us know if we can help!

12 posted on 11/07/2004 10:31:23 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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One other thing is how illegals get tuition breaks on education. When you go to an out of state school, you pay more. Since illegals (should be deported) don't reside here they should be paying out of state tuition. Illinois and prob CA too, made that against the law. This show where America's priorities are. Keeping and calling for more illegals here and for you to pay for it.

Also, try to incorporate other nations like Haiti, Cuba and China.
13 posted on 11/07/2004 10:32:39 PM PST by endthematrix (CRUSH ISLAMOFACISM!)
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Perhaps some of the people on the illegal immigration ping list can help you out. Hey guys, a young patriot could use a some assistance.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 10:32:57 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Be legal or be gone.)
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To: AVNevis
In your speech, please DO NOT call them "illegal aliens." Instead, call them what they really are, Criminal Aliens.

Search topic ideas:
immigrant
deportation
deportee
deported
immigration
border patrol
illegals
amnesty (much as I hate the idea :)
hispanic
migrant
mexico
mexican
illegal alien
criminal alien
border

Check the border state forums also. Here's the one for Texas.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/t-tx/browse

For the other states, just change the two letter state abbreviation in the URL.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/t-nm/browse will get you New Mexico.

Some arrest stats: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1267099/posts

There's a wealth of info here on FR.

Good luck to you!

15 posted on 11/07/2004 10:35:24 PM PST by upchuck (Pajamas? I don' need no steenking pajamas!!)
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To: Freesofar

Make sur eto put something in there that talks about the effect of illegal immigration on non citizens who are backed up into the system and have to wait much longer to come to the USA legally. Illegal immigration is having a devistating effect on the number of educated non citizens who are trying to relocate here. Venezuala is hit the hardest by illegal immigration. It is very difficult for them to get school or work visas. It pretty sad actually. I have a friend from venezuela, very educated, speaks perfect english and he is just an all around good person. The kind of people we want immigrating here. He went through hell to keep his education and work visa. They keep tight tabs on him and I think its pretty ridiculous that hes here legally and yet hes treated like he not and the illegals are treated with far more respect. Hypocritical.


16 posted on 11/07/2004 10:35:30 PM PST by InfusedBand
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To: AVNevis

You've come to the right place. Collectively we know everything.


17 posted on 11/07/2004 10:38:39 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: AVNevis
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18 posted on 11/07/2004 10:39:00 PM PST by primeval patriot (I'll stay in cowtown, I'll stick around)
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To: All
Thanks for your help, I'm going to bed now. Keep posting, I'll check tommorow.
19 posted on 11/07/2004 10:45:05 PM PST by AVNevis
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To: AVNevis

You might also compare the natural resources of Mexico with the USA's -=- and how number of billionaires in Mexico competes with number in Great Britain --- obviously there is no excuse for the level of poverty. Mexico has already dumped one-fifth of it's population on the USA --- but there is no end to their demands --- Vicente Fox is all the more aggressive in what he requires.

Massive immigration is the result of social injustice in Mexico --- it results from instability and leads to more instability. This is a vicious spiral now --- the more people they send us, the more people they demand to send us. They never intend to end the corruption, they never intend to build up a strong middle class or allow the peasants to reach the middle class or have access to the great wealth of Mexico. This is the elites' way of preventing a long overdue revolution or changing the underlying conditions that lead to one.


20 posted on 11/07/2004 10:52:56 PM PST by FITZ
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