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Which Dem Senators should we target for defeat in 2006? (Vanity)
11/06/2004 | Deaconjim

Posted on 11/06/2004 3:54:21 AM PST by deaconjim

Ok, we've got two years. We know we need to pick up at least 6 seats. Assuming that we won't have a 100% success rate, we should probably choose at least 8-10 Democrat (or independent) seats to work on.

We have seen that we can make a difference in the outcome of elections. Let's put ourselves to work and help get W a fillabuster proof Senate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Free Republic; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006; democrats; elections; hildabeast; hitlery; senate; strategy; tpd
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To: ExSoldier
Rice's statements on being pro-choice (although not militantly) are pretty well-known, as others have shown through the links they gave you. For someone who believes her to be the future of the conservative movement, you don't seem to have done your research.

Again, I like her in her role as NSA -- Bush should spend more time listening to her, IMHO. She'd be fine at State. I just haven't seen what makes her Presidential material.

There are no changes that are going to happen on the Supreme Court in the next four years that will make for a sea-change on the legal status of abortion. It will continue to remain important to elect a President who is pro-life (and no Republican is going to get elected who isn't), and indeed to elect pro-life officials at every level of government.

221 posted on 11/07/2004 6:19:01 PM PST by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian
At least with the Keyes fanatics, you know why, based on policies, they like him so much.

I do like Keyes better than Condi, that's for sure.

Personally, I feel that if the appointments of Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, and Rice (not to mention all of the other high-profile minorities in the Republican party) were unable to accomplish this, putting a black woman on the presidential ticket won't -- unless she isn't a conservative.

That's a very good point. Witness this as well, that the Black Community voted Bill Clinton entrance to the African American Hall of Fame, essentially naming him an "Honary African American!" More important than race to them is LIBERALISM.

I stand by my assessment that Rice is an obscure governmental bureaucrat by comparison to the public opinion about Ike circa 1950.

Well of course! Condi was never a General. Besides, those times were unique in that it was a much bigger world on the cusp of the technology boom that would create our smaller world today.

222 posted on 11/07/2004 6:36:08 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
"Witness this as well, that the Black Community voted Bill Clinton entrance to the African American Hall of Fame, essentially naming him an "Honary African American!" More important than race to them is LIBERALISM."

One thing is certain -- Clarence Thomas will never be in that Hall of Fame!

223 posted on 11/07/2004 6:58:28 PM PST by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian
Experimenting with tagline bump....
224 posted on 11/07/2004 7:17:30 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: kellynla
sources tell me he has movie deals for 2007. RINOld is history!

check...Alf out

225 posted on 11/07/2004 8:50:57 PM PST by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: Neville72

Harkin and Baucus aren't up until 2008.


226 posted on 11/07/2004 8:55:42 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: deaconjim

First of all, we need 60 votes to stop a filibuster, not 61.

Senate seats we should go after are Hillary's in NY (RUDY!), Bill Nelson's in FL (JEB!), Debbie Stabenow's in MI (Congressman Rogers, Congresswoman Miller or ex-Governor Engler should do the trick), Mark Dayton's in MN (Congressman Mark Kennedy), Ben Nelson's in NE (Governor Johanns) (although I think Ben Nelson will switch to the GOP next year), Maria Cantwell's in WA (Dino Rossi if he ends up falling short in the still-being-counted gubernatorial election; otherwise I don't know who), Mark Conrad's in ND (Governor Hoeven), Robert Byrd's (if he retires) in WV (maybe Congresswoman Capito or state Senator Jay Wolfe), Dianne Feinstein's in CA (Condi Rice?), Thomas Carper's in DE (Congressman Castle), Paul Sarbanes's (if he retires) in MD (Lt. Gov. Steele), Jon Corzine's in NJ (Steve Forbes or Congressman LoBiondo), Jeff Bingaman's in NM (Congresswoman Wilson?), Herbert Kohl's in WI (ex-Governor Thompson?), and Jim Jeffords's in VT (Governor Douglas).


227 posted on 11/07/2004 9:08:25 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: RockinRight

"Let's knock out SD Senator Tim Johnson and go 2-for-2."



We'll have to wait until 2008.


228 posted on 11/07/2004 9:10:26 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Limit myself to only three?????

How about any pubbie who signed off on or voted for any one or more of the following:

"No child left behind" (NOWHERE is FedGov authorized to be involved in education)

The prescription drug act (ditto for meds or medical care)

The TORRENT of spending NOT SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED in and by the Constitution,,, which accounts for probably 2/3 of the federal budget...
(how much more do you need???)


229 posted on 11/07/2004 9:12:36 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: ExSoldier

"Back to Condi Rice. She is the future of American conservatism and the best candidate to fill the post Bush vacuum and the best candidate to offset an expected reMADE Democratic Party that will be even more focused than ever."



If she weren't pro-abortion, I might agree with you. But by not being pro-life, there is no way that Condi can or should be our presidential or VP nominee in 2008 or later.


230 posted on 11/07/2004 9:13:57 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

"Don Carcieri for Senate in 2006!"



No, we need him to run for reelection in 2006, and perhaps run for President or VP in 2008. If that fails, he can then run against Chafee (or whoever beats him) in 2012.


231 posted on 11/07/2004 9:18:26 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
A good list, and a well thought out one.

I would also point out that it is terribly important to contest every seat, every time.

Not only does failing to contest a seat allow a candidate to save up money for the next contest, not only does it allow the Dems the opportunity to shift money to other races nationally, it also allows state organizations to concentrate on other races.

The fact that the GOP didn't contest Baucus's seat in Montana two years ago, for instance, (Mark Racicot is the only guy who could have done it) allowed Baucus to divert lots of money into state and local races both in 2002 and this year.

As a result, the Dems cleaned the GOP's clock in Montana this year, and things are looking bleak for the immediate future -- Montana is a state that is in serious danger of becoming a swing state in a future presidential race if the party doesn't get its act together.

232 posted on 11/07/2004 10:18:36 PM PST by Agrarian
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To: deaconjim

In 2010, Barack Obama, especially since the liberal (R)'s let him get in so easily. Of course by then he may be more interested in running for President


233 posted on 11/07/2004 10:24:26 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Agrarian

Right. He ran in 2002. I was thinking it was 2000.


234 posted on 11/07/2004 10:32:40 PM PST by RockinRight (American voters have spoken to Bin Laden. They said "screw you!")
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I like the looks of that!


235 posted on 11/07/2004 10:37:07 PM PST by RockinRight (American voters have spoken to Bin Laden. They said "screw you!")
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To: k2blader

The Illinois GOP would seem to be in need of major overhaul before they are capable of fielding a conservative candidate who can put the hurt on Obama.


236 posted on 11/07/2004 10:40:07 PM PST by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian

Probably so. I hope it happens. Until then, we're all stuck with Obama.


237 posted on 11/07/2004 11:20:32 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Good list. I think, from the discussions I've read up to now, that we can all agree on these. Here they are again, reformatted:

Senate seats we should go after are:

Hillary's in NY (RUDY!),

Bill Nelson's in FL (JEB!),

Debbie Stabenow's in MI (Congressman Rogers, Congresswoman Miller or ex-Governor Engler should do the trick),

Mark Dayton's in MN (Congressman Mark Kennedy),

Ben Nelson's in NE (Governor Johanns) (although I think Ben Nelson will switch to the GOP next year),

Maria Cantwell's in WA (Dino Rossi if he ends up falling short in the still-being-counted gubernatorial election; otherwise I don't know who),

Mark Conrad's in ND (Governor Hoeven),

Robert Byrd's (if he retires) in WV (maybe Congresswoman Capito or state Senator Jay Wolfe),

Dianne Feinstein's in CA (Condi Rice?),

Thomas Carper's in DE (Congressman Castle),

Paul Sarbanes's (if he retires) in MD (Lt. Gov. Steele),

Jon Corzine's in NJ (Steve Forbes or Congressman LoBiondo),

Jeff Bingaman's in NM (Congresswoman Wilson?),

Herbert Kohl's in WI (ex-Governor Thompson?), and

Jim Jeffords's in VT (Governor Douglas).
238 posted on 11/08/2004 3:41:27 AM PST by deaconjim (Freeper formally known as jpw01 (Freep the world!))
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To: deaconjim

Thanks for reformatting my list. I didn't notice how unreadable it ended up being.


239 posted on 11/08/2004 6:53:12 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for the list. The next question is : what do we do with it?


240 posted on 11/08/2004 7:12:31 AM PST by deaconjim (Freeper formally known as jpw01 (Freep the world!))
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