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Dick Morris is really going after the exit poll scandal with a vengance!!
The Hill ^ | November 4, 2004 | Dick Morris

Posted on 11/04/2004 11:30:46 AM PST by Nascardude

Those faulty exit polls were sabotage

By now it is well-known and a part of the 2004 election lore how the exit polls by the major television networks were wrong.

Likely this faux pas will assume its place among wartime stories alongside the mistaken calls on Florida’s vote for one side and then for the other in the 2000 election. But the inaccuracies of the media’s polling deserve more scrutiny and investigation.

Exit polls are almost never wrong. They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state.

So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World countries. When I worked on Vicente Fox’s campaign in Mexico, for example, I was so fearful that the governing PRI would steal the election that I had the campaign commission two U.S. firms to conduct exit polls to be released immediately after the polls closed to foreclose the possibility of finagling with the returns. When the polls announced a seven-point Fox victory, mobs thronged the streets in a joyous celebration within minutes that made fraud in the actual counting impossible.

But this Tuesday, the networks did get the exit polls wrong. Not just some of them. They got all of the Bush states wrong. So, according to ABC-TV’s exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points.

To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is incredible. It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at play here.

The mistaken exit polls infiltrated all three networks and the cable news outlets and had a chilling effect on the coverage of election night.

While all anchors refrained from announcing the exit-poll results, it was clear from the context of their comments that they expected Kerry to win and wondered if Bush could hold any key state.

Indeed, one network hesitated to call Mississippi for Bush because of the uncertainty injected by the bogus exit polls. Dark minds will suspect that these polls were deliberately manipulated to dampen Bush turnout in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific time zones by conveying the impression that the president’s candidacy was a lost cause.

The exit pollsters plead that they oversampled women and that this led to their mistakes. But the very first thing a pollster does is weight or quota for gender. Once the female vote reaches 52 percent of the sample, one either refuses additional female respondents or weights down the ones one subsequently counted.

This is, dear Watson, elementary.

Next to the forged documents that sent CBS on a jihad against Bush’s National Guard service and the planned “60 Minutes” ambush over the so-called missing explosives two days before the polls opened, the possibility of biased exit polling, deliberately manipulated to try to chill the Bush turnout, must be seriously considered.

At the very least, the exit pollsters should have to explain, in public, how they were so wrong. Since their polls, if biased or cooked, represented an attempt to use the public airwaves to reduce voter turnout, they should have to explain their errors in a very public and perhaps official forum.

This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play.


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KEYWORDS: bushvictory; dickmorris; exitpolls
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


161 posted on 11/04/2004 11:28:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: airborne

I suspect they did it to demoralize the GOP. It didn't work - it rallied the GOP instead.


162 posted on 11/05/2004 12:43:27 AM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
I suspect they did it to demoralize the GOP. It didn't work - it rallied the GOP instead.

I get that part.

But,if they knew that these were NOT the actual, accurate results of what was happening, wouldn't they want to know what the REAL results were?

It's not like the Dems to let anything this important (factual exit poll results) go unknown. For them to be caught so off guard is surprising to me.

163 posted on 11/05/2004 4:44:24 AM PST by airborne (AIRBORNE - "DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR!")
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To: airborne

"For them to be caught so off guard is surprising to me"

You shouldn't be surprised. Dan was eagerly willing to believe forged documents fed to him by the Kerry campaign .. The MSM was willing to stop crediting Bush with states he won .. The MSM was willing to hide Kerry's true record.

THEY WANTED TO BELIEVE THE NUMBERS .. THEY BELIEVED THEIR OWN ERRONEOUS PRESS. That's why they're unfit to lead America.


164 posted on 11/05/2004 11:27:28 AM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
But in all of that, they all knew what was fake and what was the truth. With the election exit polls, they knew (I'm assuming now) that the numbers were cooked. Why would they take such an enormous chance in not knowing the truth?

"They wanted to believe" is amatuerish for professional con men like the DNC and MSM.

I'm not saying you're wrong. It just doesn't pass my own personal suspicious 'smell test'.

165 posted on 11/05/2004 12:49:21 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: airborne

But .. if you remember the reaction of the liberal crowds - and even the people within the campaign .. I don't believe they knew the early numbers were skewed. Only those within the campaign (presumably Joe Lockhart) knew the plan was in place.

We know exit numbers are not that reliable .. however, dems live on that kind of unrealistic polling.


166 posted on 11/05/2004 2:35:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
They really screwed up when they dropped all of their planned last minute legal efforts to contest the results. They MIGHT have been able to pull it out at the end.

That's one of the reasons I still can't understand why they did the things they did, and didn't do the things they didn't.

I left Tuesday night to go to Boy Scouts with the boy around 6 PM and I was seriously bummed about the exit polls.

So I'm glad those pricks felt twenty times as bad as I felt. They had it coming.

167 posted on 11/05/2004 2:46:13 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: Dog Gone

I wonder if some people who voted for Bush wouldn't tell their vote to newsmen. Maybe if they don't trust the media, they wouldn't tell. I wouldn't tell a reporter. Why give him any information?

I passed out the Bush ballot at my polling place in Virginia, and practically everyone took a Republican and a Democrat sample ballot. Perhaps they didn't want anyone to know how they would vote. But the whole world was there at 6 AM voting so I think they knew who they wanted.


168 posted on 11/07/2004 7:02:59 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

I wouldn't have any problem telling a reporter how I voted. He could could probably figure it out by looking at the bumper sticker on my truck, in any event.


169 posted on 11/07/2004 7:34:19 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: OH Swing Voter
I filed a complaint with the poll watchers here in Ohio.

Have you heard anything? If not, maybe a call to the media. I'd like for someone to get to the bottom of this.

170 posted on 11/08/2004 5:18:37 PM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: nikos1121
He's right. How can you get exit polls wrong? You can't.

You can if everyone misleads the pollsters. I for one would like to see their demise.

171 posted on 11/08/2004 5:25:21 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Republican Red
'Sound's about Right!

Doc

172 posted on 11/08/2004 5:41:08 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: nikos1121
He's right. How can you get exit polls wrong?

Stand at the entrance to a building instead of the exit.

173 posted on 11/08/2004 5:43:04 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Nascardude
This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play.

This is something Dick should know about. I agree with him that this was dims dirty tricks, and it doesn't surprise me in the least. We are fighting a war on two fronts.

174 posted on 11/08/2004 5:46:13 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: cripplecreek
Cadell certainly has no use for the Clinton regime. He really is angry about how these scum have hijacked his party. God Bless him for speaking out.
175 posted on 11/08/2004 5:47:31 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: Grendel9

"HAD" a thriving business.


176 posted on 11/08/2004 5:52:12 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: King Prout

I believe he is tripping the light, fantastic toe.


177 posted on 11/08/2004 5:57:34 PM PST by JusPasenThru (The Democrats need to get over their love affair with abortion.)
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To: Nascardude; OH Swing Voter
There is a pattern here. McAuliffe's Dems ginned up the post-debate polls so the could claim victory for Kerry in each of the three debates. It became a major talking point.

Remember what Craig Livingstone told us was the Clinton admin mantra: "History is what you make it." And the MSM practices the principle to the disadvantage of their opponents daily.

178 posted on 11/08/2004 6:10:12 PM PST by OESY
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To: Republican Red
were in fact direct reports from Kerry campaign or Democratic Party operatives on the ground in such critical states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin. According to a Washington lobbyist with knowledge of the numbers, the numbers were packaged together so as to appear to be exit poll results. They were then scrubbed through several sources to

paydirt!

NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

We can't let this be buried...

179 posted on 11/08/2004 6:34:57 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: jwpjr
in 2000...a deliberate ploy by someone to trick the networks into calling the state, albeit incorrectly, and thereby interfere with the election

In 2000, the MSM didn't need t be tricked - they were in on it and did it deliberately as it had worked for them in the past...but they hadn't been so blatant about it...

180 posted on 11/08/2004 6:45:55 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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