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Dick Morris is really going after the exit poll scandal with a vengance!!
The Hill ^ | November 4, 2004 | Dick Morris

Posted on 11/04/2004 11:30:46 AM PST by Nascardude

Those faulty exit polls were sabotage

By now it is well-known and a part of the 2004 election lore how the exit polls by the major television networks were wrong.

Likely this faux pas will assume its place among wartime stories alongside the mistaken calls on Florida’s vote for one side and then for the other in the 2000 election. But the inaccuracies of the media’s polling deserve more scrutiny and investigation.

Exit polls are almost never wrong. They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state.

So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World countries. When I worked on Vicente Fox’s campaign in Mexico, for example, I was so fearful that the governing PRI would steal the election that I had the campaign commission two U.S. firms to conduct exit polls to be released immediately after the polls closed to foreclose the possibility of finagling with the returns. When the polls announced a seven-point Fox victory, mobs thronged the streets in a joyous celebration within minutes that made fraud in the actual counting impossible.

But this Tuesday, the networks did get the exit polls wrong. Not just some of them. They got all of the Bush states wrong. So, according to ABC-TV’s exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points.

To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is incredible. It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at play here.

The mistaken exit polls infiltrated all three networks and the cable news outlets and had a chilling effect on the coverage of election night.

While all anchors refrained from announcing the exit-poll results, it was clear from the context of their comments that they expected Kerry to win and wondered if Bush could hold any key state.

Indeed, one network hesitated to call Mississippi for Bush because of the uncertainty injected by the bogus exit polls. Dark minds will suspect that these polls were deliberately manipulated to dampen Bush turnout in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific time zones by conveying the impression that the president’s candidacy was a lost cause.

The exit pollsters plead that they oversampled women and that this led to their mistakes. But the very first thing a pollster does is weight or quota for gender. Once the female vote reaches 52 percent of the sample, one either refuses additional female respondents or weights down the ones one subsequently counted.

This is, dear Watson, elementary.

Next to the forged documents that sent CBS on a jihad against Bush’s National Guard service and the planned “60 Minutes” ambush over the so-called missing explosives two days before the polls opened, the possibility of biased exit polling, deliberately manipulated to try to chill the Bush turnout, must be seriously considered.

At the very least, the exit pollsters should have to explain, in public, how they were so wrong. Since their polls, if biased or cooked, represented an attempt to use the public airwaves to reduce voter turnout, they should have to explain their errors in a very public and perhaps official forum.

This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play.


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KEYWORDS: bushvictory; dickmorris; exitpolls
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To: Nascardude

Thank GOD the internet was here and was able to start looking at the leaked information about the polls enabling people to start raising questions. Remember, danny boy was blaming the internet for the descrepencies and not the fact the exit polls were bogus. I'd suggest that this points to at least implied truth to the conspiracy concept. Of late, when danny boy is caught, he immediately blames the internet in an attempt to shift the blame.


41 posted on 11/04/2004 11:43:22 AM PST by Trepz
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To: Nascardude
It's not necessarily bias that led to these bad results. There are really three major groups in the electorate: Liberal Base, Conservative Base, and Swing Voters. In most previous elections, the liberals have turned out their base in large numbers, the larger but less excitable conservative base turns out in similar numbers (but as a smaller percentage of the whole), and swing voters end up deciding the election.

So the exit pollster decided to save money by measuring only the third group, swing voters (by doing exit polling outside of polling places with lots of swing voters). And he found that they were not breaking for Bush enough for Bush to win. He completely missed the GOTV effort and the conservative turnout.

It's conceivable that flawed mechanics, and not bias, led to the failure of the exit pollsters.

42 posted on 11/04/2004 11:43:35 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Nascardude

This is the first time I completely agree with him, and I am angry. I hope there is an official investigation.


43 posted on 11/04/2004 11:43:49 AM PST by rushmom
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To: Nascardude

Freepers need to stay on this. The leftist pollsters were systematically trying to intellectually disenfranchise republican voters.


44 posted on 11/04/2004 11:44:33 AM PST by Hyacinthus Forma
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To: Nascardude

Rush is now reporting that the first exit polls actually came from the hanoi john campaign.


45 posted on 11/04/2004 11:45:07 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Nascardude
I agree with Morris. This was an effort to illegally fix an election. If a crime was committed the ones en voled should be prosecuted.
46 posted on 11/04/2004 11:45:25 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Nascardude
Suspects foul play????????????????????????

The MSM? Oh pshaw they wouldn't do that would they?

Oops! How'd that rednect expression get in there?

47 posted on 11/04/2004 11:45:40 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Nascardude

Dick Moris is one lib who knows his stuff


48 posted on 11/04/2004 11:45:49 AM PST by jperspective (KevinE)
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To: Republican Red
Found the Spectator article

Spectator

According to at least three sources, one inside the Kerry campaign, and two outside of it, but with ties to senior Kerry advisers, some of the "early polling numbers" were in fact direct reports from Kerry campaign or Democratic Party operatives on the ground in such critical states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin. According to a Washington lobbyist with knowledge of the numbers, the numbers were packaged together so as to appear to be exit poll results. They were then scrubbed through several sources to land in the lap of sympathetic bloggers who these operatives believed would put the numbers up with little question.
49 posted on 11/04/2004 11:45:55 AM PST by Republican Red (A Global Freak'n Test ???????)
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To: Nascardude
That AND Kerry's 180 form.

Inquiring minds and all that. ;)

50 posted on 11/04/2004 11:46:12 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Nascardude
Except 2000, 2002, & 2004........

Exit polls are almost never wrong.

51 posted on 11/04/2004 11:46:20 AM PST by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei !)
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To: Grendel9

Warren Mitofsky did the polling for the networks. Mitofsky is an ex-CBS News hack with a lefty agenda. 'nuff said.


52 posted on 11/04/2004 11:46:46 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Nascardude

The excuse so far seems to be the "bad sample" excuse or the "Kerry people voted early" excuse, but neither dog will hunt. As Morris points out, they got SIX STATES WRONG. I believe it hurt Bush and he won anyway.


53 posted on 11/04/2004 11:47:40 AM PST by JWinNC
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To: Nascardude
As a lawyer - I suggest that the members of the media consortium look to their contract with the pooled polling service - and sue for damages (and as a way to establish the facts of how this error was made).

As a utility researcher (prior to graduating from law school) we routinely sampled about 300 households in order to forecast the demands created by 300,000 residential customers. The key to getting accurate information from a small sample is careful selection of the sample, stratification and careful validation. None of this is rocket science - and, contrary to Michael Barone's disclaimers on FNC, the statistical mechanics are not arcane - many people working in the marketing and credit analytics fields understand the methods involved.

I would also look to Susan Estrich and any other pundit/consultant/campaign people who were interviewed during the afternoon and early evening who hyped the bogus information - they had to know.

 

54 posted on 11/04/2004 11:47:44 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: day10

BAWHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA! I love it! Stupid HELLywood think we're the stupid ones, NOPE they're the IDIOTS!!


55 posted on 11/04/2004 11:48:05 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Nascardude

How soon we forget! The 2000 elections were beset by EXACTLY the same problems, remember it led the MSM to call the state of Florida for Gore before the polls had closed in all of the state? I have said frequently that I thought it was far from an honest mistake, or computer problem, that it was a deliberate ploy by someone to trick the networks into calling the state, albeit incorrectly, and thereby interfere with the election. I would start by finding out who worked the Florida stats for 2000 and then see if any of them were on the team for 2004.


56 posted on 11/04/2004 11:48:23 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: axel f

Ping


57 posted on 11/04/2004 11:48:54 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Nascardude

BTTT


58 posted on 11/04/2004 11:49:01 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Nascardude
The Dickinator
59 posted on 11/04/2004 11:49:07 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Nascardude

The major networks were wishful thinking. hehehehe!


60 posted on 11/04/2004 11:49:43 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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