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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
E-mail from Priests for Life | 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM

Posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:56 AM PST by Diago

Subj: Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Date: 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From: "Fr. Peter West"

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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Associated Press

BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.

"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

The Vatican had urged Catholics and non-Catholics Thursday to unite in campaigning against gay marriages and gay adoptions. The 12-page document, issued by the church, presents a battle plan for politicians confronted with legislation legalizing same-sex unions and rails against gay adoption.

The document calls on Catholic politicians to vote against laws granting legal recognition to homosexual unions and to work to repeal those already on the books.

"To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral," it said, although it didn't specify penalties for Catholics who do.

Kerry opposes gay marriage, saying it is a right reserved in America for men and women, but he has said gay couples should have the same legal rights as husbands and wives.

When it returns from its August recess, the Senate will begin hearings to determine whether new laws are necessary to strengthen the federal definition of marriage as a man and a woman, a Republican senator said Friday.

In 1996, President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.

President Bush said at a White House news conference Wednesday that he believes "a marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other."

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the next day that the White House was studying possible responses if pending lawsuits in Massachusetts and New Jersey result in legalization of gay marriage.

Some Republicans in Congress also are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages.


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To: Diago
Main Entry: meg·a·lo·ma·nia
Pronunciation: "me-g&-lO-'mA-nE-&, -ny&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance
2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

(INSERT PICTURE OF JOHN KERRY HERE)
81 posted on 10/31/2004 11:37:56 AM PST by oldbrowser (seared...........SEARED)
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To: milford421

Exactly right. Arrogance defines this (man). I have yet to find another word besides man to call him...


82 posted on 10/31/2004 11:40:17 AM PST by cgk (I'll keep posting it until you READ IT. Pay attention!)
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To: Salvation
"homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."

Thank you for posting this excerpt from Catholic teaching. Many fail to comprehend or acknowledge the TRUTH even when it is apparent, especially the DemocRAT running for president.

83 posted on 10/31/2004 11:48:39 AM PST by vox_freedom (Vote W, and be safe.)
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To: Diago
Kerry signs are everywhere and Bush is being hammered relentlessly for "exporting jobs." No defense is ever offered. The Bush camp is running on the security issue here and it is not playing to well.

I would guess it's playing honestly, and well enough. But Bush is crippled with the same sort of campaign staff as his father. No Bush, yet, has shown they know how to run a campaign. The ONLY traction they've gotten is from the Swifties - and they aren't even on the payroll, and their more prominent spokesmen are Democrats!

84 posted on 10/31/2004 11:48:41 AM PST by sevry
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To: milford421
This arrogant moron scolds the Vatican?

He'd have more credibility if he had lobbied the Vatican for the removal, er, retirement, of Bernie Law.

Kerry only believes in RCC dogma when its convenient and beneficial to himself. Like when he claims to be Irish.
And then claims to be Jewish. (Or at least his grandfather).

More flipflops, or as the Financial Times prefers, "flexibility".

85 posted on 10/31/2004 12:20:47 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: upyours53

HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE. IF YOU BELEIVE OTHERWISE, THEN SLEEPING WITH LITTLE CHILDREN IS NOT A CHOICE EITHER.

**
Excellent! So simple and so to-the-point. I will have to use that one.


86 posted on 10/31/2004 12:36:57 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the flag.
It's nice to see the Vatican finally speaking out about these issues, but I wish the statement had come out a few weeks ago instead of this close to the election. How many people will hear about this before Tuesday?


87 posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Texas Mom

He's already given up the Catholic position...he plays the politician very well...he has demonstrated that he will say and do ANYTHING to achieve personal power...


88 posted on 10/31/2004 1:43:27 PM PST by milford421
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To: Calvin Locke

I just prefer to call him what he is....

a pathological liar.

Listening to this guy is a lot like dealing with a contractor...they promise you everything, lie to your face, then take your money and leave your house in shambles...(not for the honest contractors out there)...


89 posted on 10/31/2004 1:48:30 PM PST by milford421
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To: lentulusgracchus; scripter; EdReform
Well, I think we're going to be disappointed there. The few who've been discussed as appellate nominees or potential SCOTUS nominees have been pro-abortion, pro-Roe RiNO's.

I beg to differ. Alberto Gonzalez is what I would call a "stealth" pro-lifer. J. Michael Luttig is a pro-lifer -- there's nothing "stealth" about him. And even the name of John Ashcroft has been mentioned.

Imagine a Supreme Court four years from now with John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sandra Day O'Connor retired -- and replaced by Gonzalez, Luttig and Ashcroft. Goodbye Roe v. Wade, and good riddance.

90 posted on 10/31/2004 2:06:39 PM PST by Bryan
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To: milford421

I'm sure the Vatican is shaking in its boots. Wonder if kerry went to Catholic mass today? Did he go to other churches instead? What a hypocrite.


91 posted on 10/31/2004 2:19:36 PM PST by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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To: milford421
He seem to be elevating himself, first he would be able to make the lame walk and now he is rebuking the church.

Is he trying to become the anitchrist?

92 posted on 10/31/2004 2:21:46 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: scripter

How dare that apostate devil! Excommunicate him. Are the shepherds of the Church just a bunch of posers like Kerry?


93 posted on 10/31/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

mega ditos


94 posted on 10/31/2004 2:42:51 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Diago

Kerry ought to refer to his Bible (if he has one) where the subject of homosexuality is sandwiched between bestiality and incest, all in the same chaper. And then he ought to shut up.


95 posted on 10/31/2004 2:45:10 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Diago
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

It's separation of the POWERS of church and state you GUBER. The church can and should speak out regarding politicians and these issues. In fact they have a MORAL OBLIGATION to do so. YOU, JOHN KERRY, just don't like what the Vatican is saying.

After the election, win or lose, Kerry should be officially excommunicated. We don't need people like him confusing everyone. Kerry is NOT a Catholic and he needs to go NOW. Find a church that better represents your lack of morality.

96 posted on 10/31/2004 3:12:56 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote Bush. It's the RIGHT thing to do.)
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To: broadsword

Indeed some need additional spiritual gravitas, authenticity and backbone.


97 posted on 10/31/2004 3:45:51 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: NewCenturions

WHAT KERRY SAID:
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator..."

WHAT KERRY WAS THINKING:
"I believe in the church and all I care about is to *act* sincere, pious and devout--because I care about their VOTES enormously....Never mind my speech to the abortion industry--NARA Pro-Choice America Dinner. I was against infanticide--before I was for its billion-dollar lobby."

(he IS pro-abortion including partial birth!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1263185/posts


98 posted on 10/31/2004 4:14:09 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: Victoria Delsoul
...that's like saying I believe in the Catholic Church to a point, so don't confuse me with its teaching.....

I'm surprised Kerry bothers to continue to profess. As far as I can see, he's a functional materialist and humanist.

OTOH, maybe he thinks that Catholicism is good for the hoi polloi and makes better polloi of them, so that they ought to be encouraged in their Catholicism -- about which, on the side, wiser heads may continue to disagree. That would make him a Straussian -- LOL! Maybe he ought to compare notes with Ambassador Keyes!

99 posted on 10/31/2004 5:37:47 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Maybe he ought to compare notes with Ambassador Keyes!

Uh-oh, you're in trouble now, LOL.

100 posted on 10/31/2004 5:41:36 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry endorsed GW's Tora Bora strategy in 2001 and said it was pretty effective -now he's against it)
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