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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
E-mail from Priests for Life | 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM

Posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:56 AM PST by Diago

Subj: Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Date: 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From: "Fr. Peter West"

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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage

Associated Press

BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.

"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

The Vatican had urged Catholics and non-Catholics Thursday to unite in campaigning against gay marriages and gay adoptions. The 12-page document, issued by the church, presents a battle plan for politicians confronted with legislation legalizing same-sex unions and rails against gay adoption.

The document calls on Catholic politicians to vote against laws granting legal recognition to homosexual unions and to work to repeal those already on the books.

"To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral," it said, although it didn't specify penalties for Catholics who do.

Kerry opposes gay marriage, saying it is a right reserved in America for men and women, but he has said gay couples should have the same legal rights as husbands and wives.

When it returns from its August recess, the Senate will begin hearings to determine whether new laws are necessary to strengthen the federal definition of marriage as a man and a woman, a Republican senator said Friday.

In 1996, President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.

President Bush said at a White House news conference Wednesday that he believes "a marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other."

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the next day that the White House was studying possible responses if pending lawsuits in Massachusetts and New Jersey result in legalization of gay marriage.

Some Republicans in Congress also are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages.


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I am not sure why the GOP failed to use the Gay marriage this issue in Northeastern Ohio more forcefully. Kerry signs are everywhere and Bush is being hammered relentlessly for "exporting jobs." No defense is ever offered. The Bush camp is running on the security issue here and it is not playing to well. Folks here have been convinced that we are going through another Great Depression and it is Bush's fault. They have not been convinced that Iraq was an immediate threat to their personal security.

On a positive note, the Bush camp has been sending out some superb direct mail pieces on the cultural issues. If people are reading their direct mail, Bush may be able to eke out Ohio. If they are throwing it in the trash while being mezmerized by not stop "Bush exported jobs" TV ads, Bush will lose Northeastern Ohio by over 200,000 votes, and Kerry will eke out Ohio.

1 posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:57 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago

This arrogant moron scolds the Vatican? If Christ himself appeared to Kerry, Kerry would be taking him to task...


2 posted on 10/31/2004 5:55:43 AM PST by milford421
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To: Diago

The Church has every right to speak out on any moral issue she chooses. Kerry is simply incoherent with his position that he can allow his faith to affect his position in some areas but not others (like the protection of human life). If he truly believed what the Church teaches, he would act on those in his public life, and if that doesn't get him elected, then so be it. Better not to compromise one's soul for the sake of public office.


3 posted on 10/31/2004 5:57:17 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously,"

WHAT exactly does he believe and care about? He is against EVERYTHING the Catholic Church teaches because it interferes with his politics and lifestyle.
4 posted on 10/31/2004 5:57:26 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: Diago

I will sum it up in layman's terms about kerry. Kerry is a mofo liar, who is probably a closet fag himself. This lifestyle seems to be en vouge for the democratic party and their candidates. Words of truth to skeeery and fellow kommies, "President Bush will bury them on Nov 2, 2004." It's a great day to be alive and a American. Bush/Cheney 2004


5 posted on 10/31/2004 5:58:48 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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It's important not to have the Church instructing politicians? What the he!! else does the Church do but instruct? And to whom is it important? JFnK so he can be the Altar Boy who supports partial birth abortion.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 5:58:59 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: Diago

"But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."


then why was he stumping in all those churches? flip, flop


7 posted on 10/31/2004 5:59:01 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously

Kerry is the Churchurian candidate.

8 posted on 10/31/2004 5:59:30 AM PST by syriacus (Nuance? 'Tis the gift to be simple..to be free..to come down where we ought to be.)
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To: Diago
From: "Fr. Peter West"

I don't know if you supplied the scary quotes, but just FYI, Fr Peter West is his actual name. He's a priest from the Newark, NJ, Archdiocese who is assigned full-time to Priests for Life in Staten Island, NY.
9 posted on 10/31/2004 6:01:22 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (I'm not part of the problem. I'm a Republican.)
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Kerry Scolds Vatican

As he would scold any institution or person who has principles and sticks to them.

Kerry's campaign must have been ruffled because GW picks a stand (the right one) on an issue and sticks to it. Kerry is just getting it hillariously backwards, picking a wrong stand and sticking to it.

10 posted on 10/31/2004 6:02:11 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Bush 2004 in an F'n landslide.)
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To: Diago

HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE. IF YOU BELEIVE OTHERWISE, THEN SLEEPING WITH LITTLE CHILDREN IS NOT A CHOICE EITHER.

KERRY NEEDS TO GET OVER HIS POLITICALLY CORRECT BRAINWASHING.

TO ACCEPT KERRY'S VIEW THEN GOD AND NATURE MADE A MISTAKE. NATURE REQUIRES REPRODUCTION FOR SURVIVAL.

ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE IN NATURE.

SO GAYS WOULD DIE OUT FOR FAILURE TO REPRODUCE.

I WILL ACCEPT KERRY'S AND LIBERAL'S PREMISE IT IS IN GENETIC WHEN:

THEY LET US TEACH IN SCHOOL THAT HOMSEXUALITY IS A FREAK OF NATURE.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 6:02:12 AM PST by upyours53
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"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," WHAT exactly does he believe and care about? He is against EVERYTHING the Catholic Church teaches because it interferes with his politics and lifestyle.

Kerry proves his aversion to religion and shows his lack of intelligence!

You don't believe in the church!

You believe in the teachings of Christ or you don't!

12 posted on 10/31/2004 6:03:28 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: milford421

Kerry = the Grand Inquisitor?


13 posted on 10/31/2004 6:03:56 AM PST by JusPasenThru (You don't have to be snippy about it!)
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To: milford421

Look out... John Kerry is preparing to run for Pope!


14 posted on 10/31/2004 6:04:50 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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"But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

Since when?

American churches have been on the front lines of politics since this nation was founded, and despite the IRS they still are.

Kerry, like all liberals, doesn't like facts to get in his way.

15 posted on 10/31/2004 6:05:13 AM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: Diago

not a smart thing to do the Sunday before election day, to be scolding the Vatican with millions of Catholic votes watching and at stake!


16 posted on 10/31/2004 6:05:35 AM PST by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Diago

Kerry is the type of Catholic that Pope John Paul II warned about and scolded in the 80's that believes in a Left-wing/Liberation Theology.


17 posted on 10/31/2004 6:05:53 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."

That's hilarious. As if John Kerry has a clue about what is appropriate. Why is it not appropriate for any group to speak out on moral issues? John Kerry takes advice from Communists and Socialists from all around the world, and even when there is an overt attempt by them to sway the election, Kerry says nothing. Kerry is a hypocrite, he's an actor, he's a fraud. Kerry is not religious. If he was he would not be able to justify the murder of a baby that is already 80% delivered. He would be honest and admit that that procedure called "partial birth abortion" has nothing to do with saving the life of a mother. It just happens to be the cleanest way to kill the baby without worry of leaving parts behind. John Kerry is a fraud. I invite John Kerry to come off of the stage, take off the mask, and show the real self.

18 posted on 10/31/2004 6:06:05 AM PST by discipler
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To: Diago
Kerry really must think he is the second incarnation of Jesus Christ. To tell the church not to instruct politicians is correct. But Captain Oblivious misses the point, the Vatican is instructing Catholics who are politicians what the church requires of Catholics. Kerry can parse the instructions from the Vatican any way he wants, but the Vatican is saying you can't support gay marriage and gay adoption rights and be a good Catholic. Please tell me if I am wrong in understanding the Vatican.
19 posted on 10/31/2004 6:06:07 AM PST by MKM1960
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To: socialismisinsidious

Bingo! Kerry is bi-polar.


20 posted on 10/31/2004 6:06:47 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Only dummies play poker with George W. Bush.)
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