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Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction
eurekalert/University of Chicago ^ | 26-Oct-2004 | Steve Koppes

Posted on 10/26/2004 7:36:36 PM PDT by ckilmer

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Contact: Steve Koppes skoppes@uchicago.edu 773-702-8366 University of Chicago

Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction The big bang could be a normal event in the natural evolution of the universe that will happen repeatedly over incredibly vast time scales as the universe expands, empties out and cools off, according to two University of Chicago physicists. "We like to say that the big bang is nothing special in the history of our universe," said Sean Carroll, an Assistant Professor in Physics at the University of Chicago. Carroll and University of Chicago graduate student Jennifer Chen are scheduled to post a paper describing their ideas at http://arxiv.org/ Thursday evening.

Carroll and Chen's research addresses two ambitious questions: why does time flow in only one direction, and could the big bang have arisen from an energy fluctuation in empty space that conforms to the known laws of physics?

The question about the arrow of time has vexed physicists for a century because "for the most part the fundamental laws of physics don't distinguish between past and future. They're time-symmetric," Carroll said.

And closely bound to the issue of time is the concept of entropy, a measure of disorder in the universe. As physicist Ludwig Boltzmann showed a century ago, entropy naturally increases with time. "You can turn an egg into an omelet, but not an omelet into an egg," Carroll said.

But the mystery remains as to why entropy was low in the universe to begin with. The difficulty of that question has long bothered scientists, who most often simply leave it as a puzzle to answer in the future. Carroll and Chen have made an attempt to answer it now.

Previous researchers have approached questions about the big bang with the assumption that entropy in the universe is finite. Carroll and Chen take the opposite approach. "We're postulating that the entropy of the universe is infinite. It could always increase," Chen said.

To successfully explain why the universe looks as it does today, both approaches must accommodate a process called inflation, which is an extension of the big bang theory. Astrophysicists invented inflation theory so that they could explain the universe as it appears today. According to inflation, the universe underwent a period of massive expansion in a fraction of a second after the big bang.

But there's a problem with that scenario: a "skeleton in the closet," Carroll said. To begin inflation, the universe would have encompassed a microscopically tiny patch in an extremely unlikely configuration, not what scientists would expect from a randomly chosen initial condition. Carroll and Chen argue that a generic initial condition is actually likely to resemble cold, empty space-not an obviously favorable starting point for the onset of inflation.

In a universe of finite entropy, some scientists have proposed that a random fluctuation could trigger inflation. This, however, would require the molecules of the universe to fluctuate from a high-entropy state into one of low entropy-a statistical longshot.

"The conditions necessary for inflation are not that easy to start," Carroll said. "There's an argument that it's easier just to have our universe appear from a random fluctuation than to have inflation begin from a random fluctuation."

Carroll and Chen's scenario of infinite entropy is inspired by the finding in 1998 that the universe will expand forever because of a mysterious force called "dark energy." Under these conditions, the natural configuration of the universe is one that is almost empty. "In our current universe, the entropy is growing and the universe is expanding and becoming emptier," Carroll said.

But even empty space has faint traces of energy that fluctuate on the subatomic scale. As suggested previously by Jaume Garriga of Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona and Alexander Vilenkin of Tufts University, these flucuations can generate their own big bangs in tiny areas of the universe, widely separated in time and space. Carroll and Chen extend this idea in dramatic fashion, suggesting that inflation could start "in reverse" in the distant past of our universe, so that time could appear to run backwards (from our perspective) to observers far in our past.

Regardless of the direction they run in, the new universes created in these big bangs will continue the process of increasing entropy. In this never-ending cycle, the universe never achieves equilibrium. If it did achieve equilibrium, nothing would ever happen. There would be no arrow of time.

"There's no state you can go to that is maximal entropy. You can always increase the entropy more by creating a new universe and allowing it to expand and cool off," Carroll explained.

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To: ckilmer

My first reaction to the headline "SAY WHAT?"


41 posted on 10/26/2004 7:49:43 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: eagle11

yes, in a Kerry sort of way


42 posted on 10/26/2004 7:50:06 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Member of the PajamaNati for 1/6th of a year)
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To: ckilmer

Science has a way of claiming to have all the answers of history, and yet it has not satisfactorily defined time itself.


43 posted on 10/26/2004 7:50:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Tax-chick

Just keep your universe away from mine...at least until yours is potty trained...lol


44 posted on 10/26/2004 7:51:04 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: eyespysomething
*groan*

Make your time!

45 posted on 10/26/2004 7:51:26 PM PDT by TheBigB (Please Lord...let Bush win and I promise...no naughty thoughts about Lindsay Lohan for a week.)
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To: eyespysomething

If there have been Big Bangs over and over again, then does that mean that John Kerry could have run for President an infinite number of times before? And that future versions of ourselves might have to suffer the same indignity for eternity? AAAGH!!!


46 posted on 10/26/2004 7:51:36 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (What does John Kerry hunt with? Spitballs???)
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To: Tax-chick
Try the Philadelphia experiment , it's too kewl for words!!
47 posted on 10/26/2004 7:51:37 PM PDT by timestax
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To: bondserv

pingus timus


48 posted on 10/26/2004 7:52:05 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: ckilmer

When they can explain how matter created itself, I will listen. Until then, they are whistling in the dark.


49 posted on 10/26/2004 7:52:15 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: ckilmer

They are correct, the big bang has little (nothing) to do with the making of our universe. I love reading how scientists go back and forth proving each other's theory wrong and trying very hard not to mention the "C" word. Almost laughable. BEsides, if this theory was correct, there would be a lot more "life" as a result of the numerous Big Bangs and billions of years to for that life to "evolve". Such nonsense to even think that we came from a speck of dust. By the way, where did the speck of dust come from?


50 posted on 10/26/2004 7:52:50 PM PDT by Right in Wisconsin
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To: ckilmer

I'm pretty sure that time moves in direct proportion to the speed Jerrold Nadler eats.


51 posted on 10/26/2004 7:53:10 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Only dummies play poker with George W. Bush.)
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To: timestax

Nutshell? Old-timer on board here...


52 posted on 10/26/2004 7:53:13 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Oh, dear.

You can always increase the entropy more by creating a new universe

I have to wonder, to Whom is Dr. Carroll referring when he says, "You can always ... create a new universe ..."?

53 posted on 10/26/2004 7:53:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not making this up.)
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To: ckilmer

I'll bet anything that time has no direction at the sub atomic level.


54 posted on 10/26/2004 7:54:01 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: ckilmer

It's the Triangles. "0" "1" "-1". The equation is called choice, or fate, depending on the perspective.


55 posted on 10/26/2004 7:54:27 PM PDT by devane617
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To: ckilmer

BTTT


56 posted on 10/26/2004 7:54:53 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ApesForEvolution

The cow moves at night. It rained today.


57 posted on 10/26/2004 7:54:54 PM PDT by timestax
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Arrgghhh!


58 posted on 10/26/2004 7:54:57 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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To: ckilmer
Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction

Like they just found out? Seriesly?

It flows west (or east?). That's we have to back off our watch when we go to Calivornia. Lucky us, we can wear only one watch.

59 posted on 10/26/2004 7:55:22 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (Vote the RATS out!!!)
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To: ckilmer

Entropy sure ain't what it used to be.


60 posted on 10/26/2004 7:55:50 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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