Discovered papers: Hanoi directed Kerry

Worldnetdaily ^ | 10/26/04 | Art Moore

[Carling]

The first documentary evidence that Vietnamese communists were directly steering John Kerry's antiwar group Vietnam Veterans Against the War has been discovered in a U.S. archive, according to a researcher who spoke with WorldNetDaily.

One freshly unearthed document, captured by the U.S. from Vietnamese communists in 1971, indicates the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese delegations to the Paris peace talks that year were used as the communications link to direct the activities of Kerry and other antiwar activists who attended.

Kerry insists he attended the talks only because he happened to be in France on his honeymoon and maintains he met with both sides. But previously revealed records indicate the future senator made two, and possibly three, trips to Paris to meet with Vietcong leader Madame Binh then promote her plan's demand for U.S. surrender.

[bullzeye66]

Refer to post #547 at this link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1243544/posts?q=1&&page=549#549

Interesting!

[Technical Editor]

FBI files aren't substantial?

Kerry was in cahoots with North Vietnam.

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/fbifiles/100-HQ-448092/Section%2015/Section%2015
.pdf

See, among others, page 25 (top):

"... That on April Four, One Nine Seven Two, a representative of the North Vietnamese government at the Paris peace talks telephoned the "movement" in the United States to be ready to take action, presumably demonstrations, to counter expected escalation of bombing by American air forces in South Vietnam as a result of the increased military action of north Vietnamese forces in Quang Tri province, South Vietnam."

[wildcatf4f3]

Just checked DU. No talk of the morning surprise yet.

[politicket]

Early April, 1969 -- U.S. Naval Lieutenant John Kerry leaves Vietnam and is soon reassigned as a personal aide and flag lieutenant to Rear Admiral Walter F. Schlech, Jr. with the Military Sea Transportation Service based in Brooklyn, New York.

November 22, 1969 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as saying, "I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."

February 13, 1970 -- Candidate Kerry tells the Harvard Crimson, "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations," and that he wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity."

Late May or early June, 1970 -- John and Julia Kerry travel to Paris on a private trip. Kerry meets with Madam Win Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG) -- the political wing of the Vietcong -- and with representatives of Hanoi who were in Paris for the peace talks.

May 3, 1971 -- VVAW members throw bags of cow manure on the steps of the Mall Entrance to the Pentagon, then offer to clean up the mess in return for an audience with an assistant Secretary of Defense. This offer is rejected, and 28 people are arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

July 24, 1971 -- the Daily World features a photograph of John Kerry speaking in support of the Provisional Revolutionary Government (Vietcong) Seven Point Plan.

November 12-15, 1971 -- the VVAW leadership meets in Kansas City. Fearing surveillance by authorities, the group relocates the meeting to another building. They debate, then vote down a plan to assassinate several pro-war U.S. Senators. Several witnesses, meeting minutes and FBI records eventually place John Kerry at this meeting.

January 11, 1972 -- John Kerry represents the VVAW at Dartmouth College.

January 25, 1972 -- John Kerry represents the VVAW at the "People's State of the Union" in Washington, D.C.

February, 1972 -- A VVAW delegation attends a World Assembly for Peace and Independence of the People of Indochina in Versailles, France.

April 22, 1972 -- John Kerry represents the VVAW at the "Emergency March for Peace" in Bryant Park in New York City.

September 18, 1972 -- John Kerry's brother Cameron and Vietnam veteran Thomas Vallely are arrested in Lowell, Massachusetts in the basement of a building that houses both Kerry's campaign headquarters and those of opposing candidate Tony DiFruscia. Cameron Kerry and Vallely are charged with breaking and entering with the intent to commit larceny. Kerry will win the Democratic nomination for a Massachusetts congressional seat the next day, but lose in the general election to Republican Paul Cronin. Thomas Vallely will later become director of the Vietnam Program at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University.

Late 1972 -- The U.S Congress votes to eliminate funding for military operations in Indochina.

February and March, 1973 -- American prisoners of war are released by North Vietnam. They report having been starved, beaten and tortured by their captors, in an effort to make them sign documents in which they admitted to committing war crimes.

April, 1973 -- Jane Fonda calls the freed American prisoners "hypocrites and pawns," insisting that, "Tortured men do not march smartly off planes, salute the flag, and kiss their wives. They are liars. I also want to say that these men are not heroes."

Fall, 1974 -- North Vietnam initiates minor probing attacks into South Vietnam, in violation of the Paris treaty. There is no military response by the United States.

Early 1975 -- North Vietnam launches a massive invasion of South Vietnam.

April 30, 1975 -- Saigon falls.

1975 - 1979 -- Communist regimes in southeast Asia murder an estimated two million Cambodians, as well as tens of thousands of South Vietnamese. One million South Vietnamese are imprisoned in "re-education camps," and hundreds of thousands die there. An additional two million flee the country, with many drowning in the attempt.

[GottaLuvAkitas1]

"Everyone, we need to wait to get a more reliable source before we start going around directing people to a personal website for these badly-faxed, unauthenticated documents!
This is all silly until something of substance becomes available.
You don't want to be as stupid-looking as Dan Rather. And what if this is a plant of its own?"

Good points, I agree with you, but I can't be the one who proves if they are false or true. The media will force this situation. How else will it come to light?

I adore Bush, and the administration, but they don't seem to be doing much to defend him. It is the bloggers who have been doing that for 3 years. It is the SWIFT BoAT GUYS & bloggers who have uncovered and reported every Kerry lie.

With that said I am open for suggestions.

[PureSolace]

Be carefull people... we don't wanna pull a Dan Rather here. cross check all your sources... and go slowly one step at a time and carefully choose your words. Peace.

[Nasher]

I'm thinking this story catches fire when the 'flashing siren' on Drudge appears later this morning.

If/when these original documents can be produced, sKerry is t-o-a-s-t.

[26lemoncharlie]

I sent copies to Hannity and Gibson at Fox to begin with!

Getting early, will send to my Senator, Santorum demandinf Congressional Investigation. Start sending to Senate and Reps demanding Investigation.

[PowerPro]

Here's the link to the Thomas Lipscomb article (printer-friendly version):

http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=3756

[jennyp]

I'm pretty sure the documents came from this archive at Texas Tech University. NavyChief/Jerry Corsi need to provide the URLs to the original documents in the database to prove their authenticity, ASAP.

There's no time left to waste on fending off the inevitable claims of rather faked documents when they can be verified with a simple URL.

[AlGone2001]

This qualifies as an October Surprise.

[politicket]

Here is a URL that will take you right there...

[politicket]

I entered a document title of: circular, a collection title of: douglas pike, and a date span of: 01/01/1971 to 12/31/1971. Media format was: document, images, and microform.

[26lemoncharlie]

Go to World Net Daily www.worldnetdaily.com

[26lemoncharlie]

I am a Navy Chief (RET) also, CPO's NEVER break the Oath, Like myself he would rather DIE. This is the Real McCoy, Guareenteeeeeed !!!! No phonies, no <icrosoft Word. NY Sun articl says documents were verified, Check it out:

http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=3756

[politicket]

You can go straight to the document source: HERE IS THE DOCUMENT

[VAreddog]

I know I'm going to be the odd man out on this thread, but I got to speak my mind. My family voted straight Dem until 1968, and we've voted (almost) straight Republican since we went for Nixon. I disagree with Kerry about a whole range of foreign and domestic policy issues, and I think he (like Fonda) were wrong to oppose the Vietnam War. But, guys, I just don't believe that Kerry was/is a traitor. This "Kerry is traitor" idea just makes Conservatives look like rabid irrational madmen. We disagree with him, and think he's wrong about a whole manner of things, but we for the sake of our country we've got to stop this Kerry the liar, Kerry the traitor line. I happen to think that Kerry is a good man (ok- shoot me!), but a seriously misguided one, and someone about whom our side has been willing to throw dirt at. That's politics, but at some point we have to be Americans and not just Republicans. There is a chance he will be our Commander in Chief, and if that happens despite our best efforts, the political health of our Republic requires that we respect the will of the people, and that we stop poisoning ourselves by circulating lies that, if we were honest, don't really make any sense. Hate me if you like, but these are my honest thoughts. If our worst fears are realized and Kerry gets in, we will survive it, and win four years later. God bless America.

[politicket]

Sorry to disagree...but evidence suggests that Kerry might be a traitor. If that evidence continues to pan out, then it will remove ALL doubt.

BTW...welcome to Free Republic!

[VAreddog]

Thanks. I'm not sure I'm really the right kind of Conservative for this community though. I'll see how it goes.

[26lemoncharlie]

After spending over 20 Years in the Navy, five trips to Vietnam, and having to live through that period I can tell you one thing Kiss MY American A$$.

The SOB is a TRAITOR and I want some A$$, not for me, for my friends that never came back. This TRAITOR caused a more problems than you can imagine. He is a thief, he lied and stole the HONOR of a whole generation of Good Honest American Men And Women. NO You can got to H.