Posted on 10/25/2004 8:52:47 PM PDT by churchillbuff
It hasen't been safe down there for years. I've delt with people that have been brutalized down there. People that go down there for a romp, do so at a risk.
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and your facts are wrong!
It had been over a decade since I went down to have a look Joe.
I did it because I was in San Diego anyway and wanted to see what was up these days.
It seemed horrible down there. On the bus rides I did learn lots of people go down for two major reasons.
#1 Drugs: Your allowed to have a 3 month supply with you when you come back to America, so people go down there with empty bottles from a recent prescription, fill up there and come back.
#2 Dentistry: There are a few good ones down there and they are drastically cheaper.
When you go by bus, there is a lot less checking on you.
The Mexican official just comes on the bus before it goes in, probably takes a bribe from the company and leaves.
On the way back, at one point you exit the bus, go through the border where they check your ID. Quickly if you seem American.
Then back on the bus and you are back.
About $4 to ride both ways. Best thing to do, rather than drive in and be at risk more so.
My parents lived outside of Guaymas in the early 70s, so we went down fairly often, and no problems.
After they moved back stateside, about 5 years later, we didn't go down anymore until we drove to Mazatlan for the 1992 total eclipse.
At that time, the changes were striking. The toll booths on the hiways were sandbagged and fortified, with mounted & manned machineguns on the roofs, and platoon strength Federales with automatic weapons, and 6-bys and Jeeps with mounted .30's in defensive positions.
The new "freeway" had signs posted warning people NOT to use it without waiting for military escorts. The old hiway was safer.
Many of the haciendas were being fortified with new perimeter walls, and new watchtowers, with gunslits, built at the corners and entrances; and the ground between the walls and buildings was being cleared. Some looked like they were digging tunnels to the perimeter towers
Federale squad-strength foot patrols were everywhere along the roads.
Trash all over the place, and villagers dirtier than I had ever seen them.
Haven't been back since, and don't plan to.
Wow, that is sad for Mexico.
Why do you think the peasants have not had a good old fashioned American version of their own revolution?
I am so sick of this. If they want to live in Mexico, then live in Mexico. If they want to live in the USA, then quit griping, salute our flag, learn our language or go home. Be an American or not!
Federales? Not allowed to own much in the way of firearms? The last 6 or 8 didn't improve things? The citified Mexicans like their 'telly & tranks'?
Your guess is as good as mine.
(Right or wrong) I was taught as a child that Mexicans are descended from native Aztec indians breeding with occupying Spaniards thus creating Mexicans.
Sounds like a warzone.
ROTFLMAO...THIS THREAD IS A RIOT!
Is that done to protect the elites from the people? Or is done mostly to stop drug runners? Maybe different drug groups. One group gets safe passage. the other gets blasted if they try to come through that area?
Can't be around that long, and not know.
heh.
Millions of defective people, living in a defective society, with defective values...brought into being by a group of defective rapists.
That explains a lot. . .
Some of the peasants are very nice family people. I'm sure for them their country is a hell.
Bing-fricking-GO! There was no desire on the part of the mexicans to even go to Texas until the Anglos built something to "go" to. This is the most astute statement from New Jersey for the entire day.
An even more disheartening thought is that mexico will have no ability for self-rule in the foreseeable future. Corrupt, incestuous power driven "politicians" and LEO's will keep mexico in the third world gutter forever.
Thank you ... I think. That's a "left-handed" compliment towards my home state!
An even more disheartening thought is that mexico will have no ability for self-rule in the foreseeable future. Corrupt, incestuous power driven "politicians" and LEO's will keep mexico in the third world gutter forever.
You got that right.
..."Some of the peasants are very nice family people. I'm sure for them their country is a hell"...
In absolute terms, yep. But if you think in relative terms, not necessarily. They grew up there...that's all they know...that's how the world is.
On the other hand, they come here and it's like Disneyland on a free pass. I understand that....but it's still not my problem.
Mexico's problems stem from a problem with the Mexican people. Call them stereotypes...but they come from an origin of truth. Reminds me of a massive overgrown rat nest, eating it's young...and spreading disease to it's neighbors. We've got enough stupid people here already...we don't need the bottom of the barrel from Mexico thinning out the progress gene.
Yeah, there are exceptions. . .but those people understand the system and are assimilating instead of perpetuating this aztlan cr@P.
Nice or not, they shouldn't be here. They can be nice in Mexico. See what you made me do....? Now I need another Heineken.
I think there should be no amnesty, and that applications from around the world should be more even and not mostly to Mexicans with little or no skills.
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