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George Putnam: "This land is OUR land" (The Aztlan activists have their history backward)
newsmax ^ | Oct. 21 04 | George Putnam

Posted on 10/25/2004 8:52:47 PM PDT by churchillbuff

One Reporter's Opinion - This Land Is Our Land George Putnam Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004 It is this reporter's opinion that it is time to set the record straight for the misinformed Mexican illegal aliens and troublemaking Latino activists who call my Talk Back radio program monotonously.

They repeat for the millionth time the tired worn-out lie that "America stole the seven southwestern states from Mexico. This is our land, gringo, and we are taking it back!"

WRONG!

Here are the facts: Texans fought for and won independence from Mexico on April 26, 1836 following its victory over the Mexicans at the Battle of San Jacinto.

Nine years later, in December of 1845, the U.S. annexed the Texas republic. Congress sent General Zachary Taylor to Texas to protect its border with Mexico.

Mexico claimed the Rio Grande River as "their territory." After a series of attacks and clashes with Mexican troops inside the Texas territory, Congress declared war on Mexico May 13, 1846.

Hostilities continued for two years as General Taylor Scott led American troops to engage Mexican forces in New Mexico, California, and deep into Mexico. Mexico City was captured by General Scott in August of 1847.

February 2, 1848 Mexican officials and U.S. representatives signed a peace treaty known as "THE TREATY OF GUADALUPE HIDALGO."

The provisions of that treaty called for Mexico to cede to the U.S. 55 percent of its territory (that is present day Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas and parts of Colorado, Nevada and Utah) - this in exchange for $15-18 million in compensation for war-related damage to Mexican property.

The U.S. Senate ratification of the treaty, U.S. forces then left Mexico City.

There you have it. There are the facts. Either accept the facts or continue living a lie.

The U.S. did not steal anything from Mexico; the former Mexican territory was won by the blood of young Americans like the ones who fought World Wars I and II, Korea, Vietnam, and are now engaged in Iraq. The seven southwestern states are American land, not "their land."

This despite what the pro-Mexican and Hispanic racist groups like La Raza, Aztlan, Lulac and La Mecha teach their uninformed young Spanish-speaking students in our own American public schools. Shame, shame, shame!

It is exactly how Adolf Hitler indoctrinated his people to kill anyone who opposed the German view of the world as he shouted, "Deutschland Uber Alles lebersraum!" (Germany over all and living room!). This is KKK American Nazi or Black Panther talk.

As Sgt. Friday said, "Just the facts, ma'am... just the facts."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; antiamericanism; aztlan; communists; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; laraza; liberalbigots; mexico; racebaiting; racism; reconquista
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To: FITZ

The thing is that there were no Mexicans before Spain invaded. Mexicans are the mixed breed children of the Spanish who raped the Indian women.

The original Indians of Mexico are held more or less captive by the mixed breed offspring of the Spanish.

I heard a long lecture by Catholic priests who worked and tried to protect the original Indians and they were threatened to be killed by Mexicans if they didn't get out.

The issue is the Indians are made to work like slaves for the mixed breed Mexicans and are like slaves were in America before the Civil War.
The families of Indians are told there is opportunity for their Indian daughters to be educated and better off if they take positions with companies and they are instead forced in prostitution after they leave their family.

Mexico sucks, they are an immoral glorified third world nation.
Plus they SHOOT people at their own borders.


21 posted on 10/25/2004 10:13:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FITZ
Besides the land in question belonged to Spain --- which invited white Americans in and gave land grants to them which are still honored by the USA government. Mexico declared it's independence from Spain and was so unable to rule that it hung onto the northern territories for only something like 25 years. Mexico has been a mess ever since it's independence, it still has no ability for self-rule.

"Anglos" began settling in Texas in large numbers in, correct me if I am wrong, the 1820s. They did more to develop Texas in 10 years than the Spanish and Mexicans did in 300. You are also correct about the fact that Mexico still has no ability for self-rule.

22 posted on 10/25/2004 10:17:16 PM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: FITZ

Part two of my comment is that the lower class Mexican people are good family people and are not as much involved ot riding the Indians.
They are mostly good family people, but seem gutless regarding any inspiration to have a revolution to straighten out their country the way we did in America in the 1700s.

My point is, of all the people that could have been south of our border, we could have done a lot worse than the family loving Mexican peasants. Their upper classes though are like the mafia.


23 posted on 10/25/2004 10:19:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: churchillbuff

Pssst! It was Generals Zachary Taylor and Winfield Scott.


24 posted on 10/25/2004 10:29:12 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: A CA Guy

Some of the lower class are good people --- some are friendly and honest and helpful --- but not all --- there are lower class neighborhoods in Mexico where you would not want to go. Mexico's society is rapidly disintegrating --- crime rates have shot up dramatically --- where it was once pretty safe to travel isn't now --- I know good people from Mexico who won't go just over the border where they are from even for a visit --- they say it's too dangerous now.


25 posted on 10/25/2004 10:30:35 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Indians native to Mexico though --- one reason the Spanish government invited "anglos" into the northern territories like Texas was because the Indians gave them so much trouble, no Mexicans would move into them.

Before the "Anglos" were invited to settle in Texas, the Spanish/Mexican population was actually declining because they were unable to defeat the Indians and so were leaving.

"Indians" is a misleading term anyhow -- it's not like Indians were ever one big happy family or one united people --- they were many separate groups which often raided each other and went to war. The Indians of Mexico are different tribes than the ones who were here -- except for a few --- so being Indians doesn't entitle them to the land which belonged to other Indians groups.

Contrary to popular belief, New World "Indians" are not a monolithic race. Different tribes are descended from different groups of east Asians. There is an ethnic difference between a Mayan Indian from Mexico and an Athabasca Indian from Canada.

26 posted on 10/25/2004 10:33:51 PM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: A CA Guy

But you're right -- the Indians seem to be the best people of all in Mexico. I just wouldn't make any generalizations at this point because I think it depends a lot --- I'm not sure I'd go wandering around alone even in the Indian villages in Mexico without careful checking first. Some of the mestizos are pretty good types -- but a lot are terrible --- especially in the areas along the border. Of course I live near Ciudad Juarez so my viewpoint is colored by what I hear first hand from people over there. Other areas are still okay.


27 posted on 10/25/2004 10:37:15 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Mexico's society is rapidly disintegrating --- crime rates have shot up dramatically --- where it was once pretty safe to travel isn't now --- I know good people from Mexico who won't go just over the border where they are from even for a visit --- they say it's too dangerous now.

I didn't know that. Do you know why?

28 posted on 10/25/2004 10:40:29 PM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: FITZ

Interesting you say that FITZ, I had a recent talk with a legal immigrant from Mexico who is a young Americanized female working at a restaurant.
She told me she used to feel safe taking trips back to visit relatives and that she doesn't feel that way now.

I told her about how last summer I took the bus across and back to Mexico in a day just to do it after the years since I was last down there.
I felt UNCOMFORTABLE down there.
The impression I got was it isn't safe down there at all anymore.

I think you are on to something in your post, I felt the same thing and the Mexican born woman I talked to felt and observed the same thing.

Too many people are reporting the same thing, your post is a good one.


29 posted on 10/25/2004 10:42:02 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: weegee
Didn't Mexico take the land from the native Indians?

Spain claimed it from the Indians in the 1500's, Mexico won it from Spain 1821 and the U.S won in from Mexico 1848... so Mexico clam is the shortest 27 years... Sorry Mexico your last in line behind The US, Spain and the Indians for a claim on this land

30 posted on 10/25/2004 10:42:36 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: Siamese Princess

The why I can come up with is a lack of democracy.


31 posted on 10/25/2004 10:44:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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32 posted on 10/25/2004 10:56:04 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Thanks, been here already.

God Bless George Putnam by the way, great reporter and an outstanding American.


33 posted on 10/25/2004 10:57:39 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

He always seems to land on his feet no matter what conditions keep hitting him. Great patriot. Great American. Listen when I can.


34 posted on 10/25/2004 10:58:47 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: television is just wrong

I was listening to him "before" Rush Limbaugh myself.


35 posted on 10/25/2004 11:04:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Channel? he was moved...


36 posted on 10/25/2004 11:05:20 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: television is just wrong

Here's some background and a link:
http://www.crni.net/?date=10/21/2004&nid=7&pid=1&eid=70

George can be heard on KSPA-AM and KCEO, San Diego and simulcast coast-to-coast via Cable Radio Network (CRN).


37 posted on 10/25/2004 11:12:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Putnam's a patriot. He knows where the bodies are buried, too.


38 posted on 10/25/2004 11:25:01 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

He also said he would write a book about his life and loves. Granted he has time to write it still at 90, but I hope he's at least started it.


39 posted on 10/25/2004 11:27:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sangoo

Been about 25-30 years since we met him, when we were visiting Seymore's (remember him?) 'Slimey Wall' set at the studio. Putnam was coming out as we were going in, and was soused (nothing new for him) and either had just been, or soon after was fired. At least he was friendly-drunk, and talked to us a bit, before staggering off.

Didn't know, not having lived in the area since 84, that he was still alive, let alone still on the air.


40 posted on 10/25/2004 11:29:53 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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