Posted on 10/22/2004 1:02:03 PM PDT by Plutarch
As we know, the Bush Administration has proposed Amnesty for illegal immigrants, and pressured House Republicans to strip the immigration provisions from H.R. 10, the 9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act . The Administrations pro-immigration policy is commonly attributed to Karl Rove, whose strategy is thought to be to attract a higher percentage of the growing Hispanic vote . USA Today cites the importance of the Hispanic vote in four battleground states (New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Florida). Of these, only NM and FL are truly in play. Not everyone believes that Roves strategy is brilliant, and FR has no shortage of posts questioning Roves strategy.
Bush's re-election is in doubt with two weeks to go. Below is today's Real Clear Politics' Electoral Map . It is crunch time. If Roves policy is as shrewd as purported, we should see evidence of its advantages on this map. Where do we see the pay-off for Bushs supposedly Hispanic-pleasing Amnesty-pushing policy?
Which states are red that would be white? Which are white that would have been blue?
Alternatively, the majority of the battleground electoral votes are in states with low Hispanic populations. Would not a robust border protection policy be popular, and provide a reason for a potential Kerry voter, in say, Ohio, to vote for Bush?
Maybe Freepers can help sort this out.
Bush has not proposed amnesty.
I believe it has had a negative effect, based on the people I know. But I am in California, so it is not easy to judge.
As soon as voters start electing politicians who will actually stop illegal immigration, politicians will start to do so. The problem is that politicians who ignore the issue keep getting re-elected, and the immigration issue makes no difference.
He has none that I can see.
"As we know, the Bush Administration has proposed Amnesty for illegal immigrants"
Really?? I don't know it. I thought that was Kerry...
I don't support Bush's "Guest Worker program" it is better than Kerry's Amnesty proposal or the current chaos. But I do respect Bush for standing by his guns in the debate. He could have dodged the question, he is aware of the negative feeling that it stired up. Bush didn't do that, makes me want to vote for him even more
What flavor's that kool-aid? Making illegal folks legal is an amnesty.
Ohio is not battleground just because of the illegal problem alone. That being said we are loaded with them and people aren't happy about it.
This is a pro-Democrat vanity post (none of the above text at the linked site), and it's a lie.
The President said that he would sign either bill and didn't prefer one over the other.
The President has put more than 1000 new border patrol personnel on each border.
The President has put both manned and UAV flights in the air to patrol the border.
Oh yeah, he hasn't proposed amnesty, read up on the FTAA and see how it will erase the borders then get back to us. BOTH parties are selling us out when it comes to borders and culture. If you ask Vincente Fox, it is a given that our borders will be erased soon enough.
1,000 new border patrol is about 19,000 too few.
Well, I'm voting President Bush even though I am upset at his approach to illegals - because I know Kerry would be worse.
That is not a proper choice any American should have to make. Politics should never play a part in deciding if someone should be allowed to break our laws and get away with it.
I'm just wondering how smart that "Guy" really is - if he is indeed the one behind the policy - wasn't he the one who "lost" some material that was easy to find by a Democrat - wasn't he the one responsible for the set up of the debates -
President Bush is getting bad advice on the illegals issue no matter where it comes from - in my opinion - everyone is ignoring the main slam to Americans - the breaking of our laws and the allowing of it -
So if they're "legal" like you say does it mean they get to spend the rest of their lives here?? Help me out here. I guess GUEST worker=PERMANENT resident.
This assumes that the immigration policy was purely meant to grab Hispanic votes and make the President popular. Don't discount the possibility that Bush pushed the plan because he thought, rightly or wrongly, that it was the right thing to do. Politicians do that sometimes, you know -- especially ones with (R) next to their name.
Doesn't matter much anyway, as everyone can tell the plan is dead, at least for the time being. Nor has Bush been talking about it much in the election, another indication that his plan was not just a vote grab.
OK. It's a myth that "Hispanics" want open borders and mass immigration. The myth comes from, in part, rich white liberals projecting how they think Hispanics should think. The wage-supressing business lobbies have two angles. ONe, the "Americans won't do this work" angle. The other, very clever indeed, is to adopt the elite liberal arguments. Indeed, the business groups, via the NIF and such, subsidize ethnic front groups to further create the impression to the non-discerning media consumer that "hispanics" think such and such.
The reality is the purposeful neglect of immigration laws disproportionately targets the income of Hispanic citizens. It's a wage-depressing policy.
Yes. Who's going kick them out? George Bush? LOL
Sorry but this one single issue kills it all for me. There cannot be "conservatism" within any politican who keeps an open border policy. No doubt I have the minority opinion with this, as usual.
Regards;
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