Bush has not proposed amnesty.
I believe it has had a negative effect, based on the people I know. But I am in California, so it is not easy to judge.
As soon as voters start electing politicians who will actually stop illegal immigration, politicians will start to do so. The problem is that politicians who ignore the issue keep getting re-elected, and the immigration issue makes no difference.
He has none that I can see.
"As we know, the Bush Administration has proposed Amnesty for illegal immigrants"
Really?? I don't know it. I thought that was Kerry...
I don't support Bush's "Guest Worker program" it is better than Kerry's Amnesty proposal or the current chaos. But I do respect Bush for standing by his guns in the debate. He could have dodged the question, he is aware of the negative feeling that it stired up. Bush didn't do that, makes me want to vote for him even more
Ohio is not battleground just because of the illegal problem alone. That being said we are loaded with them and people aren't happy about it.
This is a pro-Democrat vanity post (none of the above text at the linked site), and it's a lie.
The President said that he would sign either bill and didn't prefer one over the other.
The President has put more than 1000 new border patrol personnel on each border.
The President has put both manned and UAV flights in the air to patrol the border.
Well, I'm voting President Bush even though I am upset at his approach to illegals - because I know Kerry would be worse.
That is not a proper choice any American should have to make. Politics should never play a part in deciding if someone should be allowed to break our laws and get away with it.
I'm just wondering how smart that "Guy" really is - if he is indeed the one behind the policy - wasn't he the one who "lost" some material that was easy to find by a Democrat - wasn't he the one responsible for the set up of the debates -
President Bush is getting bad advice on the illegals issue no matter where it comes from - in my opinion - everyone is ignoring the main slam to Americans - the breaking of our laws and the allowing of it -
This assumes that the immigration policy was purely meant to grab Hispanic votes and make the President popular. Don't discount the possibility that Bush pushed the plan because he thought, rightly or wrongly, that it was the right thing to do. Politicians do that sometimes, you know -- especially ones with (R) next to their name.
Doesn't matter much anyway, as everyone can tell the plan is dead, at least for the time being. Nor has Bush been talking about it much in the election, another indication that his plan was not just a vote grab.
OK. It's a myth that "Hispanics" want open borders and mass immigration. The myth comes from, in part, rich white liberals projecting how they think Hispanics should think. The wage-supressing business lobbies have two angles. ONe, the "Americans won't do this work" angle. The other, very clever indeed, is to adopt the elite liberal arguments. Indeed, the business groups, via the NIF and such, subsidize ethnic front groups to further create the impression to the non-discerning media consumer that "hispanics" think such and such.
The reality is the purposeful neglect of immigration laws disproportionately targets the income of Hispanic citizens. It's a wage-depressing policy.
Sorry but this one single issue kills it all for me. There cannot be "conservatism" within any politican who keeps an open border policy. No doubt I have the minority opinion with this, as usual.
Regards;
Does he have amnesty for illegals on the board table? If so then his immigration policy stinks to high heaven. Would prefer more border patrol agents instead.
Oh yeah, sure.
He has had the past four years to do "something" about illegal immigration and all he's done is proposed amnesty and encouraged even more illegals to cross the border.
This is during wartime when a reasonable person could expect al-quida terrorists to also be crossing over with the Mexicans.
If the President is reelected he will have no pressure on him to do the right thing and defend our borders.
I predict the second Bush administration will ram amnesty through Congress, public opinion be damned!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20041021-100641-3001r.htm
BUSH: "......the president returned to the issue earlier this year by proposing a guest-worker program, which, stricken of all its lofty rhetoric, we feel is simply amnesty lite.
sKerry: "Absolutely ... Let me say I'm not afraid to say it, I supported and was prepared to vote for amnesty from 1986. And unfortunately, the events of 9/11 obviously changed the capacity to do that."
Isn't it is supposed to be common knowledge that a difference between Bush and Kerry is that Bush is a man of principle, regardless of popularity, he has moral convictions and stands by them? Therefore making a stand on the issue of illegal immigration, even if it is before an election should not be important to a man of principles?
But the hush of immigration in this elections only leads the public to two possible conclusions:
1) Bush is not a man of principles as purported, as he is willing to sell out US legal citizens to Mexico for a strategy to win the election.
2) or he is a man of principles, who truly believes that cheep near slave labor is better for the country than protecting the middle class from the onslaught of the hidden charges and from tax payers subsiding business that occurs from open boarders.
Either way doesn’t paint a rosy portrait!
As for Kerry being in better on immigration, forget it! He said during the the debate for example that all foreign visitors should be made legal if they have been here long enough (e.g. 1 week).
Therefore here in California, what difference who’s president, since the local governments which are now mandating Spanish speaking for its officials, are be taking their orders for V. Fox, such as issuing drives licenses, consular Ids, health care, education, and housing.
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The Bush proposal, not even close to policy yet, was a suggestion to get the reformers working, but they are doing nothing that has a chance of passage.
The policy is the status quo.
The Bush proposal would stymie the ability of the illegal to find work, and they know it. That is why they do not support anything but amnesty and are currently supporting Kerry.
But I guess you are blind to this??????