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Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication
EWTN The World Over ^ | 10/15/04

Posted on 10/15/2004 7:20:42 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel

Dramatic development in the fight for the Right to Life and the standing of pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

Today, in EWTN's news magazine The World Over, canon lawyer Marc Balestrieri revealed that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has certified that the Church's condemnation of abortion is part of Catholic doctrine and of natural law, and as such, any one who publicly contradicts this doctrine is guilty of heresy and incurrs an automatic excommunication.

Click here to download the Roman Congregation's response.

Earlier this year, Marc Balestrieri filed a heresy lawsuit against Senator John F. Kerry for his public and obstinate support of abortion rights. This lawsuit remains active in the tribunal of the Archdiocese of Boston. Today, Mr. Balestrieri announced in the same program that he will file new charges against the most egregious offenders, including Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), whose pro-abortion voting record is well known.

To find out more about Marc Balestrieri's efforts, to join the class-action canon lawsuits against Kerry et al. as an aggrieved party, or to contribute towards his ministry, visit his website, www.defide.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholicpoliticians; excommunication; heresy; kerry; lataesententiae; vatican
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To: sitetest
But there are plenty of Catholics who are voting for Mr. Kerry, perhaps not fully realizing the total import of their vote.

Some of them are very intelligent and hold down responsible, professional jobs. I was starting to resent them, but that is self-defeating. Some of them are very nice people people.

That is what makes it so hard for me. I love the friendly, outgoing liberals over dour, legalistic conservatives.

I'm trying to have it both ways. I don't know how far you can go with it. Try to be kind and tolerant of all, inwardly and outwardly, but do my own conservative thing.

It's a real trial for me. I don't want to spend the rest of my life being mad at people like that. And I have a natural tendency to get mad at people who do things that I think are seriously questionable ethically.

I still have some ethical reservations about some of the things Republicans do, too. But abortion and the other life issues that have already taken so many of our own innocents override the other things.

121 posted on 10/15/2004 9:04:17 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: FredZarguna

Thank you Fred. I do not like playing Devil's advocate, and I am glad to be soundly defeated.

(No. No sarcasm.)


122 posted on 10/15/2004 9:06:19 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
The Devil's Advocate, of course, is an Advocate for the Lord, not the Devil. The title is the ultimate self-contradiction. Thank you for sharpening our arguments.
123 posted on 10/15/2004 9:09:42 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
99% of such legends about Tetzel are complete fabrications....

Thanks for sharing your perspective with me. I'll go to your home page and check out your further comments.

124 posted on 10/15/2004 9:21:59 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
The real JFK deftly avoided this sort of scurrilous scandal-by-association only to be brought up short by the harsher forces of raw politics and the machinations of the mad.

The church exists to challenge the state, the state must either follow the church or regulate it; and round and round it goes.

125 posted on 10/15/2004 9:24:54 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Anyone that claims Christ and votes for sKerry is sorely self-deceived...


126 posted on 10/15/2004 9:29:32 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

The Washington Times might print this but I doubt if anyone else will. Keep praying. Whenever any SKerry rep is on TV while they speak I say the St. Michael prayer, the Glory Be, and the Fatima prayer out loud then I never have to listen to them talk.


127 posted on 10/15/2004 9:30:14 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Welcome to Free Republic. I pray that Senator Kerry see the light and stop claiming to be a Catholic while uttering heresy almost within the same breath.


128 posted on 10/15/2004 10:43:18 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: sinkspur

Automatic excommincation is also the result of heresy.

Canon. 1364 §1 An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, without prejudice to the provision of Can. 194 §1, n. 2; a cleric, moreover, may be punished with the penalties mentioned in Can. 1336 §1, nn. 1, 2 and 3.

For more information, I would suggest one read and study Ad Tuendam Fidam and the CDF's commentary on "Professio Fidei".

The Church's teaching on the grave immorality of direct and volutary killing of an innocent human being requires the "assent of theological faith". To deny or doubt this results in heresy, an offense which incurs automatic excommunication.

No equivocations to the contrary are legitimate.


129 posted on 10/15/2004 11:32:07 PM PDT by lrslattery (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam - http://slatts.blogspot.com)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

All I want to know is when I can start selling the marshmellows on a stick.

Auto-de-fe!


130 posted on 10/15/2004 11:47:28 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Oh, crud! I forgot; the Church doesn't believe in capital punishment anymore. :-(


131 posted on 10/15/2004 11:49:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

I was never voting Kerry and neither were any prayer community Catholics.

Maybe the luke warm Christians might.


132 posted on 10/15/2004 11:50:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MagnumRancid
I can understand the Vatican wanting to avoid making a public, officially official pronouncement.Why?
133 posted on 10/16/2004 2:50:46 AM PDT by Diva
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To: sitetest
OSV?? Isn't that owned by the same folks who publish the National Crackhead Reporter??

Is it really!! My understanding is that Catholic Charismatics control OSV now.

134 posted on 10/16/2004 2:52:40 AM PDT by Diva
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To: MeekOneGOP

You seen this yet???


135 posted on 10/16/2004 5:53:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Salvation
No, first I've seen this one. Thanks.


Today, in EWTN's news magazine The World Over, canon lawyer Marc Balestrieri revealed that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has certified that the Church's condemnation of abortion is part of Catholic doctrine and of natural law, and as such, any one who publicly contradicts this doctrine is guilty of heresy and incurrs an automatic excommunication.




136 posted on 10/16/2004 5:59:40 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Diva
<< I can understand the Vatican wanting to avoid making a public, officially official pronouncement.
Why? >> Politics is the simple answer.
137 posted on 10/16/2004 6:04:11 AM PDT by MagnumRancid (I cut it three times......It's still too short!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Here is a later thread on the same topic.

Kerry Excommunicated

138 posted on 10/16/2004 6:10:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Oh, crud! I forgot; the Church doesn't believe in capital punishment anymore. :-(

Actually, the Church still recognizes capital punishment as valid. (CCC art.2266). Despite the protestations of this current "conservative" Pope. OTH, should government have that much power over life and death?

139 posted on 10/16/2004 6:39:15 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Character only matters when its a democrat.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Looks like a scene from The Blues Brothers.

"Do you see the Light?"


140 posted on 10/16/2004 6:43:17 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Character only matters when its a democrat.)
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