OMG, Greta has just declared this election as hinging on the "Sex in the City" vote. 45 million single women who did not vote in the 2000 election!
Posted on 10/13/2004 5:19:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
45 minutes to go. If there is already a live debate thread go ahead and delete this.
I understand posting a live thread has become a somewhat of a political ordeal here, when it shouldn't be. So to take the pressure off, I'm posting this anyway. Do I dare? LOL!
My thoughts exactly (and Edwards was just as pandering and without taste in the VP debate.) I would think that a gay woman putting national interests above her own is a real threat to the Dem's.
OMG, Greta has just declared this election as hinging on the "Sex in the City" vote. 45 million single women who did not vote in the 2000 election!
Access to all that ketchup money, and planning for the Presidency since 'Nam... and Kerry forgot to schedule a face-lift...!
At the end of the debate when Laura reached out to shake Kerry's hand, he leaned over to kiss her cheek. She seemed to flinch, just like Teresa when Kerry tries to touch HER.
"I wish God would call Jesse home."
Rev 21:8 But for the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part shall be in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Have you noticed that they nearly always try to take him out of context--just to make him look as dumb as they think he is. And the truth is, his answers always make perfect, honest sense when viewed on the whole text!
"...get Rudy and Arnold..."
Absolutely! They would help everywhere!! I heard someone ask that on Rush, I think it was Rush, and he said he did not know why that was not happening already.
I just got reprimanded for correcting someone's spelling. Are you talking about me, or the report from last night. I honestly did not mean to offend anyone!'
hah? you talkin to me?
ROFLOL!
Check this out...
Act 3, Wherein Bush Turns That Frown Upside Down
By JAMES BENNET
Published: October 14, 2004
TEMPE, Ariz., Oct. 13 - For the third and final presidential debate, President Bush had his game face on, and his game face turned out to be a big smile.
Having put a second term at risk by scowling and seeming weary through the first debate; having reassured supporters but done little to attract independent voters - and particularly women - with a passionate, arm-waving performance in the second, Mr. Bush chose Wednesday night to put on a happy face.
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On style and substance - though not toward his opponent - Mr. Bush was kinder. He was, indeed, gentler. He talked a lot about education. When it came to answering questions on potentially divisive subjects like homosexuality and abortion, Mr. Bush skirted the rock-hard positions favored by his base to plant his flag deep in the mushy middle ground once held by President Bill Clinton.
"Surely there are ways we can work together to reduce the number of abortions," he said. He smiled.
Yet even his smile was askew for about half the debate, marred by a glistening light dot at the right corner of his mouth. Viewers could be forgiven for losing track of his answers and imagining Laura Bush in the front row in frantic semaphore, wiping furiously at the corner of her own mouth.
Mr. Bush's face slipped into a frown late in the debate, as he struggled with a question on why the nation was so divided under his leadership. He began thumping one hand flat onto his lectern, knitting his brows as he segued to a defense of his management of the Iraq war.
But, in answering the next question, he recovered his balance as he described advice he received from his family, advice that was clearly much on his mind: "To stand up straight and not scowl."
Senator John Kerry took a few new oratorical risks. He compared the president to the television mob boss Tony Soprano, and unlike Mr. Bush, he dragged Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter, Mary, a lesbian, into his answer to that question about homosexuality. He managed one real joke at his own expense, drawing a big laugh by referring to his marriage to a multimillionaire, Teresa Heinz Kerry, in noting that some, more than others, had "married up."
Mr. Kerry also went out of his way to talk about his religious faith, something he has rarely done while campaigning. He made a point of saying he respected and shared Mr. Bush's faith, before suggesting that he could do a better job of putting it into practice globally. "Frankly, I think we have a lot more loving of our neighbor to do in this country and on this planet," he said.
But, such deviations notwithstanding, the surprise of this debating season is that viewers now know what to expect from Mr. Kerry, and they expect consistency. He stands ramrod straight. He often presses one big hand to his chest in a gesture of sincerity. He has command of lots of facts, at least those that support his position. He says "with respect to" with respect to just about everything, ladies and gentlemen.
Mr. Bush, who prides himself on saying what he thinks and knowing who he is, has proved to be the unpredictable one.
It was in speaking of the role of religion in his life that Mr. Bush seemed at last to relax Wednesday and find his center. "I received calmness in the storms of the presidency," he said, speaking of prayer.
In the end, Mr. Bush tried to leave viewers with images of campaign comity and family warmth. He hung on to Mr. Kerry after shaking his hand, then shook his hand again.
These debates stripped all the varnish away: the focus groups and commercials, the prepared texts and the cozy cocoons of handpicked crowds. They revealed fundamental differences between the candidates, and put the candidates to a lonely test before the voters. In place of all the posturing, they substituted one glaring political message to pollsters, strategists and White House aides: It's the candidate, stupid.
If Mr. Bush loses the election, he will have to blame, at least in part, his own debate performance. Wednesday night's was his most appealing presentation so far, but it was so at odds with his others that some voters might be left puzzled by the inconsistency. Others may feel that they at last recognize their candidate.
The debate was supposed to be devoted to issues of domestic policy, but the war and the larger struggle against terrorism intruded from the first question until the closing.
It seemed right that for this debate on domestic affairs, the two men met in an arena, the Grady Gammage Memorial Auditorium at Arizona State University, that was itself based on an unrealized vision for Iraq. Frank Lloyd Wright based the hall on his design for an opera house in Baghdad that was never built.
Of course, for Arizonans as for other Americans, the war in Iraq is very much a domestic issue. "Rural Arizona Gives Up Another Son," read a front-page headline in The Arizona Republic on Wednesday. It ran over an article about the death by car bomb of Pvt. Carson J. Ramsey of the Army, who came from copper country, near the mining towns of Winkelman and Mammoth.
Shortly before the debate, Brittany Clifford, 14, a ninth grader from Scottsdale, spotted her home state senator, John McCain, just outside the hall. Brittany was covering the debate for Weekly Reader, a national publication for children, and she seized her chance, if shyly, to ask Mr. McCain what young people could get out of watching the debate.
Seeing Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Mr. McCain waved him over to help answer the question.
Speaking into Brittany's tape recorder, the senator said, "You can really get an idea about the kind of leadership you will have in a debate, which you don't get out of a television commercial or at a staged event."
He turned to Mr. McAuliffe, politely suggesting he might have different thoughts.
"I couldn't agree more," Mr. McAuliffe said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/politics/campaign/14mood.html
Methinks, Jesse is going elsewhere:)
Yep .. that's her
My husband and I were having this very discussion about the quiet people over dinner, before the debate.
American Contras.
President Bush told the world how much he loves his wife and Kerry boasts about how wealthy his wife is.
A window into the mind of an opportunist
The debates will not, and cannot, settle everything. Everyone who's serious about the value of their vote will still have to review the text and consider all the issues and supporting players.
For example, there are two articles in this month's Atlantic monthly that I found very disturbing - one on Karl Rove, the other by Wilhelm Langeweiche (spelling) on our progress in Iraq.
Other than being pretty, why is she important, for informational purposes only..
I think the Dum-o-cRATS hope he is still around--it's always something they can throw out to try to discredit the prez!!! But, IF he is, we will get him!!
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