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Posted on 10/12/2004 8:58:00 PM PDT by nwctwx
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Jill had it on her site and some one transfered and except here. I concur. The jist was that the ABC video was a message to OBL that operations were ready, the OBL was the final execute message.
Personally, I haven't heard or read anything to convince me the two recently released video's aren't anything but authentic.
"....the water, the water, the water?"
This aquarian doesn't find any comfort in this.
"unlikely
unexpected
something not watched
not a landmark
more devastating than the WTC
now if we could only figure what could this be?"
Invisible! And all those mysterious balloons & parachutes indicate something heavier than air.
Ler's do a Kerry here...I have two opinions on that article you posted assuming the article is factually correct.
OPINION 1: It's not a sin or a crime to panic. The undercover agent needs to buck up and get nerves of steel and/or get retrained and/ or be sent back to the states for a more tame assignment.
OPINION 2: She should have anticipated being searched at some point and time. This article may not include all the details. I hope an investigation by
the military and the alphabets clears up this situation.
Terrorist training school in progress
Greg Sheridan, Foreign editor
October 30, 2004
WESTERN intelligence has discovered a new training course for regional terrorist group Jemaah Islamiah under way in the southern Philippines.
Sources say intelligence estimates between 20 and 30 Indonesians are attending the course.
The length the course will go for is uncertain, with estimates ranging from six weeks to several months.
Because of heightened surveillance, it is not possible for JI to conduct courses for larger numbers than this.
The course is taking place at a JI camp in a territory controlled by the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front
Excerpted
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11227529%255E2703,00.html
There is no question on the UBL video authenticity IMO.
As far as the Azzam tape. My only real question is whether it is Adam Gadahn or not.
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So glad the American agent is ok.
Boy, that had to be frightening for her.
Thanks for the clarification, Ian.
And of course we can always drop something with a middle-eastern name....MOAB.
I know what you mean. But, we musn't forget about those scuba divers.
Thanks for pointing that out nwctwx. It's been a busy year.
Thank you too, Ian for all your hard work.
And thank you to all the TMers.
This has been a life altering, eye-opening experience.
Same here. :)
Dh is home until tomorrow a.m., so I am outta here :)
Probably all of us do not have access to the information requested. However, these are questions that a competent investigator would ask. I am assuming that our intelligence folks are competent investigators and have factored these things into their evaluation. That should count for a significant amount.
However, from the face value of the presented tape alone, the topics discussed and his appearance, there are some variations, but nothing that I am aware or have been made aware of that is out of character for him. To think that this is some kind of elaborate government hoax is not the logical way of reviewing the data, nor fully appreciating the work of intelligence. The simplest theory is often the correct theory.
Drudge discussed this on his radio show. Imagine our country's leader making decisions based on polls???? Here it is, before the elections even, John Kerry is no leader.
Assuming that the tapes were made/edited by Sahab, it would likely mean that they haven't bothered to standarize their productions and only remember to put the logo in one of the corners out of the way. Professional networks standarize this.
Excellent job on the Iraq Pipeline Watch - I kNOW firsthand what effort you put in to this and I appreciate it.
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