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Posted on 10/12/2004 8:58:00 PM PDT by nwctwx

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The Threat Matrix

The title refers to a daily report given to the president of the United States detailing the most serious terrorist threats against the country. To tackle those threats, the government has formed a top-notch task force to infiltrate the terror cells and cut off the danger.

"Every morning, the president receives a list of the top ten terrorist threats - this list is known as the threat matrix."

We here at FR are trying to be in conjunction with the daily reports around the world that involve threats. We try to provide a storehouse of information that takes hours of research.

YOU Be The Judge and Get Informed!


Ramadan terror concerns?
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ATLANTA (CNN) -- As more than one billion Muslims prepare to celebrate Ramadan, terror experts are mixed about whether the holy month is a tool for recruiting terrorists.

Some terrorism experts and Islamic scholars say Ramadan gives extremists an opportunity to enlist new recruits.

"It's a time which can be exploited by radical clerics to motivate individuals into taking action on the basis they are somehow serving their religion," says terror expert M.J. Gohel.

And analysts see another temptation for terrorists: exploiting the Battle of Badr, a symbolic date in Muslim history, which falls near the U.S. presidential election.


"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat."



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To: JustPiper
he wants to lead Hamas etc. and ally the terror groups in Gaza

The thing that hit me yesterday was his renewed attempts at tying all his anger to the Arab/Israeli conflict. This was especially pronounced in his reference to Lebanon.

With the illness of Arafat, we are reminded that there is no one set to take his spot. I wonder if UBL is trying to make it known that he would be willing to take over in that struggle.

3,621 posted on 10/31/2004 1:28:04 PM PST by nwctwx
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To: JustPiper

Here you go piper ATS thread on ABC tape...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread91730/pg8


3,622 posted on 10/31/2004 1:33:26 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: jerseygirl
September 11th 2001 was a Tuesday. If they're going to strike on election day it will have to be early to affect the outcome and yet not too early for the polls to have opened on the west coast. The WTC was struck at around 8:30am, but that was still 5:30am in California. I'm thinking around ooooh........Noon-ish.
3,623 posted on 10/31/2004 1:37:39 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: All

Tape is bin Laden recruiting
BY SALAH NASRAW
http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-nws-binladen31.html

CAIRO, Egypt -- Osama bin Laden's videotape clearly targets American voters days before an extraordinarily tight presidential election, but also courts another constituency -- young Arabs frustrated and disenchanted but not committed to radical Islam.

Al-Qaida's leader already has extremists on his side, who made it clear in their remarks posted Saturday on Islamic Web sites that they were elated to see him looking healthy and in control of the cause.

But analysts say he is trying to broaden his base and that his words were chosen for more secular young Muslims as well as Americans.

In the tape, parts of which were aired Friday by the Arabic television network Al-Jazeera, bin Laden dropped the usual religious rhetoric and historical references in favor of plain language.

And he pointed to Israeli aggression as his inspiration for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. U.S. policy in the Israeli-Palestinian issue drives frustration among many Arabs, from moderates to radicals.

Trying to broaden his base

He struck a tone that was almost conciliatory -- though tinged with threat, telling the American people only four days before the election between President Bush and Sen. John Kerry that he wanted to explain why he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks so Americans can act to prevent a similar strike. Stop harming Muslims, he said, and an attack will be averted.

''Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands,'' bin Laden said. ''Americans' security is bound to the policy they adopt regardless of the winner.''

The Bush administration left the terror threat level unchanged Saturday, despite warning state and local officials that the bin Laden video may portend a new terrorist attack. ''We don't have to go to [code level] orange to take action in response either to these tapes or just general action to improve security around the country,'' Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said.

Ridge urged Americans to vote in Tuesday's elections without undue concern.

Wants mainstream status

Bin Laden's language, tone and explanation are out of character with his past, vehement remarks. Analysts warn he's not a changed man, just changing with circumstances. Lebanese writer and political analyst Saad Mehyo pointed to bin Laden's ''new look'' and said the tape reflected a ''high degree of sophistication.''

Bin Laden and his followers ''are showing a degree of maturity and development in order to bring their cause into the mainstream of [Arab-Islamic] causes,'' he said.

''He no longer needs to talk and address devout Muslims, they already support him,'' said Abdel Rahim Ali, an expert on radical Islamic groups.

AP


3,624 posted on 10/31/2004 1:44:25 PM PST by nwctwx
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To: jerseygirl
That's okay, US troops have been training for chemical war for decades and it's like second nature now. I don't think they know what they're getting themselves into. It's one thing to have the weapon and another to properly set it off, especially if in the form of ordnance. And quite something else to protect your own guys in case of a wind shift.....
3,625 posted on 10/31/2004 1:50:26 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: kimmie7

From ATS on the Adam tape:
(Very interesting posts)
Exerpts from 9 pages, relevant to thoughts etc on this tape)

"Allah willing, the streets of America will run red with blood, matching drop for drop the blood of America's victims," he says. "What took place on September 11th was but the opening salvo in the global war on America."

Further claims: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda.

MUELLER: He is known to have performed translations for al Qaeda as part of the services he has provided to al Qaeda.

O'BRIEN: Family members say they hope it's not true.

PAUL GADAHN, ADAM GADAHN'S FATHER: We hope he's not involved with anything weird like that.

NANCY PEARLMAN, ADAM GADAHN'S AUNT: As far as I know he was never militant. Our family are strong believers in non-violence. We are strong believers in peace.
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part of me wants to believe the threat comes from this government, part of their boogie tactics in order to give Bush another 4 more years. This WOULD GUARANTEE GEORGE his 4 more years

Likely terror attack october 28th!
1. Prophecy
When: October 28th.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread89451/pg1

This might be merely a ridiculous coincidence, but did anyone happen to notice that the breaking news of the new terror tape which states that the new attack will "dwarf" 9/11 just happened to coincide with another breaking news item about a new species of ancient "dwarf" human beings that had just been discovered? Sounds like a codeword for something to me.

quote:
CIA can’t authenticate taped threat to U.S.

The CIA is unable to authenticate a videotape in which a man claiming to be an al-Qaida terrorist warns of devastating new attacks on the United States, a senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News on Wednesday.

But the senior intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told NBC News that “we can’t authenticate” the tape, a copy of which ABC gave the CIA on Monday. He would not elaborate, adding, “I think that is where we are going to stand.”

U.S. officials told NBC News that the tape included now-standard militant Islamist rhetoric promising widespread destruction inside the United States. The man cannot be identified, the officials said, because his face is covered by a headdress.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, described analysts’ concern as “low” because it was not clear that the tape was recorded recently and because the man on the tape, who spoke in what appeared to be an American accent, mentioned no details.

“It’s unclear what this tape is — even whether the person on the tape is an American,” one of the officials said.
If the CIA are treating it as a "low" concern. I think we should too.
27-10-2004 by rangeroftheeast]
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6345734/

Hey I just thought of something, if the tape says "elected GW Bush" as in past tense, could the tape have been released earlier than it was intended? This is all very odd and strange, as this one was not sent to Al Jezzera.

Playing Politics With Threats of Pre-Election Terror
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread89492/pg1

It was the message from Zawahiri, and when he talks, he means business.
He stated it would be:
unlikely
unexpected
something not watched
not a landmark
more devastating than the WTC
now if we could only figure what could this be?

It's probably from a Kerry Supporter in the US

Hi,

This particular tape seems more like someone who supports Kerry's election to try to affect the election. Given that the guy is hooded, he talks with an American accent, and the CIA is wavering on authentication,
I think this is an American pretending to be an arab doing this.

There are fanatics on both sides of the political struggle and it is true that Al-Qaeda plans larger strikes than 9/11, but this tape kind of smells to me.

was going along on the same thought, but it mentions the 9-11 commission report among other things in the last couple of months. I also thought it could have been 6 months old, remember the guy who staged one in California? But because of the report mentioned, it had to have been more recent. I also thought of Al-Jazeera, considering this apparently came from Pakistan, or was delivered to. It most likely is nothing(I Hope) but to put fear into the minds of Americans during an Election, whoever is behind it is just an idiot. I hate the fact that FEAR is playing into an election.....
TrickmastertricK

Here is my opinion: Because this tape is/was made in Pakistan, or obtained from there, that it is connected to Al-Qaeda, as well as a production company etc., I can't help thinking that this is coming from the Intelligence Services--I.S.I in Pakistan as well as the C.I.A, both of which are most likely the same entity. Take a quote about the I.S.I, just for a little background for those who don't know, about what kind of organization the I.S.I really is:
quote: The ISI has become a state within a state, answerable neither to the leadership of the army, nor to the President or the Prime Minister. The result is there has been no real supervision of the ISI, and corruption, narcotics, and big money have all come into play, further complicating the political scenario. Drug money is used by ISI to finance not only the Afghanistan war, but also the proxy war against India in Punjab and Kashmir.

That was taken from this website. Just replace ISI with CIA and it will describe them both perfectly. In pre-9/11, fact by Indian Intelligence said that Mohammed Atta was sponsored by ISI Chief. Not only that, the ISI Chief at the time was visiting some Intelligence Officials in the United States at about 9/11.

This new terror tape that is being witheld is a psychological operation for the American people. Not only that, it may just as well foreshadow what is brewing for the next operation by Al-Qaeda, an organizational front for the CIA/ISI/Mossad.

The guy speaking in the video probably doesn't really know who he's working for when he was trained in those Alqaeda camps.

Why are they holding the tape back? They should release it anyway. At least post it somewhere on the internet so that the internet community can verify for themselves what this tape is. They are probably holding it back because of the information it provides, too many clues which make paths into terroritories the CIA would not want us knowing about.
IMMORTAL
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From the Drudge Report. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3742-2004Oct27.html

ABCs "experts" seem to think its the other way around. Maybe someone pretending to be American. But then there is the whole "when in Rome" thing. Maybe its an American who picked up some of their speech habits.

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Now onto speculating what attack could rival 9-11,
think infrastructure here, something that affects many, but is concentrated enough to attack.
My guess is a coordinated attack on some petrol/chem plants near a large population, not to blow them up, (as the noxious stuff would burn away and be lifted up into the air) but to simply release these toxins into a cloud of creeping death like that that happened in Bhopal India when the dow chem factory accident occured and killed several thousand.
Simply take out a few of these around one city, and repeat this in several cities at the same time, and you could wipe out thousands and tie up resources very quickly...soundl like "winds of black death" if you did this at night....lots of people sleeping, unaware of toxic fumes seeping over/thru neighborhoods, until it was too late....plus then we'd be "silently" grieving as many of these victims wouldnt be apparent right away, just lists of missing people and quiet house to house searching for them, unlike fire trucks loudly racing to a burning/collapsng skyscraper....and thousands running and screaming away.

You coulddo this far cheaper than trying to build and sneak a nuke into a city...all youd need is a few guns to kill the guards quickly, a good respirator and rubber suit to keep you alive long enough to release enough toxins, and a couple of dozen fanatics to carry out the plan.

Much like 9-11 did, they will use our own tools against us.
But this is just my guess.
CazMedia
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There is a whole division of the CIA devoted entirely to shooting or creating video footage, and no I don't think it is all for training videos.

ABC is not going to air this tape until after the election because they are concerned with political implications. This is the biggest crock of crap I have ever heard only a couple of days after they said

quote: ABCNEWS strongly denies holding the tape back from broadcast over political concerns during the last days of the election

The News media is nothing but the communication wing of the democratic party.
BlackJackal
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it could be several months old

quote: "What took place on September 11th was but the opening salvo in the global war on America."

The next attacks, he adds, "could come at any moment."

.....

"It probably was worked on for a period of time - probably done fairly recently, as recently as late summer."

The tape's speaker references the conflict in Darfur, the 9/11 commission, Massachusetts same sex legislation, and the upcoming US presidential election.

Probably a couple of months old.
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What I am alluding to is the fact that the Pakistani courier may have delivered his package early. Perhaps they meant for it to be delivered next week.

No, but from the looks of it and that little clip they just showed, this looks Heavily Produced, It is nowhere near any other video that has been released, this already is raising a huge question in my head.
TrickmastertricK

He sounds like an English speaker who is either trying to affect an accent, or who has spent significant time recently with Middle Eastern-accented English speakers.
There's certain "clipping" to some of his words, but it's inconsistent, especially when he yelled.
He sounds midwestern to my ear.

Edit: and I'm willing to bet money that Trick's "question" raised is that it was produced by the CIA.
Banshee

Every single video I have reviewed, did not have the quality and resolution that this one provided, and also used a shadow box around the lens. This, to me, and I am not an Expert, Looks like it was done with some very hi-tech Gear. I know you can produce some very high quality Video and images from just standard equipment, but this looks Too Good. Something is not sitting right. I also know that uploading and converting will take away quality, but again I just do not know, I wish we could get a copy of the whole thing.
TrickmastertricK
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread91730/pg6

The Problem is WE will probably NEVER see the video in its entirety.
Most tapes went straight through Al-Jazeera, why did ABC receive this one?
TrickmastertricK

According to the Post, Ross and other ABC staffers said they believe that a Bush administration official leaked the existence of the videotape to Internet gossip Matt Drudge as a way of pressuring the network into airing the tape. Drudge discussed the tape on his Web site Wednesday; FOX News also reported on the existence of the tape.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136937,00.html

Now why would a Bush Admin want to pressure the ABC news channel to air the tape?
markjaxson

By the way, I notice we all lived through the blood red moon and the fact that the Red Sox won.

Nahhh! Politicians would NEVER stoop to faking terror threats to gain votes!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/28/terror.tape/index.html

CNN is reporting that the CIA cannot authenticate the tape. Remember the hostage hoax video made not so long ago. Maybe this is a similar "prank", who knows.

The CIA DID Authenticate the tape, and now they are backing away from that Authentication. I think perhaps they are noticing some inconsistencies with other tapes from As-Sahab. Course that's just my personal opinion.
phreak_of_nature



3,626 posted on 10/31/2004 1:55:06 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: ExSoldier

Here is part of the transcript from Ridge's press conf yesterday.

Question: But were you reluctant to raise the threat level because the election is only days away?

Secretary Ridge: We will raise the -- first of all, we reserve the right to raise it. Secondly, we don't have to raise it to enhance security in certain areas. And we will always be dictated by the specific intelligence and its credibility. And, as I said before, today as we speak, we are at Yellow. Depending on, again, the process that is ongoing over the next day or two or week or two, we certainly reserve the right to go up if the information warrants us going to Orange.

Question: If I could follow on that --

Secretary Ridge: It's driven by the intelligence, it's driven by the information.

Question: If could follow on that, are you concerned because of these tapes specifically about the election? Or are you looking at other events this weekend, say the NFL football games, the Marine Corps Marathon, or are you looking even past that?

Secretary Ridge: Well, I think first of all, Americans should take some comfort that these major public events and those who sponsor those events have a good working relationship with Homeland Security, with the FBI, with the Secret Service. Again, since 9/11, there are security enhancements at these public events that a lot of Americans probably aren't even aware of.


3,627 posted on 10/31/2004 1:59:02 PM PST by 4thygipper
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To: freeperfromnj

You will then cry like women in your underground caves. And it will be fair enough for you to see that for us knowing that you will run away hiding in your underground caves, we will give you a prior few minutes notice before our blessed attack so that you will be able to watch your destruction with your own satellite as we would be by then have passed the sky's of the seventh sky to heaven and your nation to the fires of hell, and what and end for letting you govern them and move them to the direction of hell and what a direction!"

The document is signed by the Islamic Jihad Brigade, the 8th Squad of the Black Death Squad.


3,628 posted on 10/31/2004 2:43:37 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: British chick

Arafat's poisioning and death would be my guess being UBL said in this new tape he wants to control Hamas etc in that region


3,629 posted on 10/31/2004 2:44:44 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1263757/posts


3,630 posted on 10/31/2004 2:47:33 PM PST by Cindy
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To: kimmie7

Also on ATS:

Military Video - Do you know what is this?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/video/CAS.wmv

Could anyone with military background identify if this is real stuff?
Are those tens of people being killed?
Is this a criminal act?
WisdomMaster


3,631 posted on 10/31/2004 2:47:59 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: jerseygirl

Took that info from a Pakistan newspaper directly. The link was gone. A corresponding article was inside the paper, but the link for "more on the headline" was gone as well. Either 1) It is a hoax, or 2) it is being stiffled. Your guess as good as mine.


3,632 posted on 10/31/2004 2:48:45 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: 4thygipper

Seems like only about a dozen sure states for Kerry


3,633 posted on 10/31/2004 2:49:04 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: 4thygipper

Well Illinois is safe, especially with Obama winning


3,634 posted on 10/31/2004 2:49:48 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: penguino

Iman , Madhi, prisoner?

Bush holds National Security Meeting over bin Laden Video
http://www.atsnn.com/story/92674.html
news.xinhuanet.com
Bush held a videoconference call with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and the heads of the CIA, FBI and departments of Justice and Homeland Security, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

McClellan did not say what steps were being taken, but said there was no plan to change the terror alert level at the moment.


3,635 posted on 10/31/2004 2:51:05 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: freeperfromnj

Terrorist attack at 10am Saturday?!
(yesterday)
"Menino reiterated estimates that between 3 1/2 and 5 million people will be drawn to this city[Boston] of 600,000 to share in the historic occasion."

'Rolling Rally' to be held Saturday
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread92212/pg1


3,636 posted on 10/31/2004 2:53:00 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: Pegita

and Amen.

Thank you Pegita.


3,637 posted on 10/31/2004 2:56:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Godzilla

Is bin laden tape authentic?

I have the usual questions.
Having studied how accurate complete
video fabrications can be, especially with
the computing resources of for example
the NSA making it, I always question
these kind of tapes that appear with
such coincidental timing.

So..

1. How was the tape received?
2. What was the original format? ( PAL, VHS, other)
3. What organization authenticated the tape?
4. Was the original physical tape authenticated,
or a copy?
5. Who translated it?
6. Is the translation accurate?
7. Exactly how was the tape "authenticated"?
(Only the original physical copy could allow true
authentication that it was analog recorded, and
not digitally fabricated then made into an analog
recording).
8. What brand machine was it recorded on ?(different
machines leave various artifacts that can be analyzed)
9. What was the second unbiased organization to verify
the results of the first analysis? (Was there one? Was the
original analysis done by an unbiased party?)
10. Why is none of the above information readily
available, if it is a legitimate tape?

I have more questions, but you get the idea. These are all
questions that need to be answered before ANY talk about
the contents of the tape can be rationally discussed, because false tapes have been made before (that we know about and admitted to be "authority" in this country.. although responsibility for them has never been proven).

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread93111/pg1

Osama Spotted by Indian Spy Plane
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread92999/pg1

Bin Laden tape "Misleading"

New Bin Laden video

I dont mean to be totally untrusting of this government, but are we supposed to continue to believe this?

Is this new video totally twisted, redone to suit this governments purpose?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread92656/pg1


3,638 posted on 10/31/2004 2:58:15 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: pon505

Mr. X says to (2004-9-6 20:44:43):
we did find out something was happening in S.NJ

Mr. X says to (2004-9-6 20:45:34):
military in Trenton and Browns Mills

This page is disturbing pon, how did you come across it?


3,639 posted on 10/31/2004 3:00:24 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: trussell

Thank you Trussell.


3,640 posted on 10/31/2004 3:00:31 PM PST by Cindy
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