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To: Godzilla

Is bin laden tape authentic?

I have the usual questions.
Having studied how accurate complete
video fabrications can be, especially with
the computing resources of for example
the NSA making it, I always question
these kind of tapes that appear with
such coincidental timing.

So..

1. How was the tape received?
2. What was the original format? ( PAL, VHS, other)
3. What organization authenticated the tape?
4. Was the original physical tape authenticated,
or a copy?
5. Who translated it?
6. Is the translation accurate?
7. Exactly how was the tape "authenticated"?
(Only the original physical copy could allow true
authentication that it was analog recorded, and
not digitally fabricated then made into an analog
recording).
8. What brand machine was it recorded on ?(different
machines leave various artifacts that can be analyzed)
9. What was the second unbiased organization to verify
the results of the first analysis? (Was there one? Was the
original analysis done by an unbiased party?)
10. Why is none of the above information readily
available, if it is a legitimate tape?

I have more questions, but you get the idea. These are all
questions that need to be answered before ANY talk about
the contents of the tape can be rationally discussed, because false tapes have been made before (that we know about and admitted to be "authority" in this country.. although responsibility for them has never been proven).

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread93111/pg1

Osama Spotted by Indian Spy Plane
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread92999/pg1

Bin Laden tape "Misleading"

New Bin Laden video

I dont mean to be totally untrusting of this government, but are we supposed to continue to believe this?

Is this new video totally twisted, redone to suit this governments purpose?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread92656/pg1


3,638 posted on 10/31/2004 2:58:15 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: JustPiper; Godzilla

ATS is a useful tool, but I don't see the need to post all that stuff here. The UBL tape has been authenticated, case clased IMO. I don't think the netizens have a better handle on this stuff than the feds.

You can question the other if you wish, but I tend to believe both are legit.


3,674 posted on 10/31/2004 5:32:17 PM PST by nwctwx
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To: JustPiper
Is bin laden tape authentic?

Probably all of us do not have access to the information requested. However, these are questions that a competent investigator would ask. I am assuming that our intelligence folks are competent investigators and have factored these things into their evaluation. That should count for a significant amount.

However, from the face value of the presented tape alone, the topics discussed and his appearance, there are some variations, but nothing that I am aware or have been made aware of that is out of character for him. To think that this is some kind of elaborate government hoax is not the logical way of reviewing the data, nor fully appreciating the work of intelligence. The simplest theory is often the correct theory.

3,716 posted on 10/31/2004 7:47:45 PM PST by Godzilla (God is my refuge and God is my strength. A very present help in trouble.)
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